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Mr. Laz 01-07-2009 05:55 PM

Cowboys cut Pacman Jones
 
allegations of another shooting


espn

Updated: January 7, 2009, 7:18 PM ET
Pacman project in Dallas is over


<cite class="source"> ESPN.com news services
</cite>

<!-- begin story body --> <!-- template inline -->IRVING, Texas -- Troubled cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones was released Wednesday by the Dallas Cowboys following a season in which he was suspended six games for an off-field fight. <!-- INLINE HEADSHOT (BEGIN) -->
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/prof...65x90/8421.jpg Jones

<!-- INLINE HEADSHOT (END) --> The transaction will not become official until Feb. 9, the first day NFL teams can make waiver requests.Jones's release came after "Outside the Lines" reporter John Barr contacted the NFL, the Cowboys and Jones' attorneys about a piece scheduled to air Sunday in which three Atlanta-area men allege that Jones arranged for someone to shoot at them two months after the football player was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in 2007.

The June 2007 shooting occurred outside a suburban Atlanta strip club. One of the shooting victims told "Outside the Lines" that he had a dispute with Jones inside the strip club and that not long after he and the two others left the club, a hail of bullets struck their car. The NFL knew about that incident, but charges were never brought against anyone because the victims did not see the shooter.

"Outside the Lines" obtained information that police, investigating a separate Atlanta-area case, had been told by an informant that Jones ordered the June 2007 shooting following his dispute with one of the men. Police have said while the case remains open they are not actively investigating.

The Cowboys traded for Jones before the season even though he had been suspended in 2007 because of a series of off-field incidents.

"He was surprised, and I think he was obviously somewhat hurt," said Worrick Robinson, Jones' agent. "At the same time, he understands the business behind what is happening here."

He missed six games this season for violating the league's player conduct policy after an Oct. 7 scuffle with a team bodyguard at a Dallas hotel. He missed a seventh game with an injury.

Jones averaged just 4.6 yards per punt return and had no interceptions.

Robinson said he did not think Jones' suspension was a factor in the Cowboys' decision to release the cornerback.

"We don't have any reason to believe at this point that that off-the-field incident had anything to do with the team's decision today," Robinson said. "I know there was certainly a lot of bad that came out of that situation, but there was some good that came out of that situation as well."

teedubya 01-07-2009 05:57 PM

Print em!

OnTheWarpath15 01-07-2009 05:57 PM

I saw Scheffter report this on NFLN about 20 minutes ago, he didn't mention anything about a shooting...

OnTheWarpath15 01-07-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5366500)
I saw Scheffter report this on NFLN about 20 minutes ago, he didn't mention anything about a shooting...

He just repeated the story, and again, nothing mentioned of a shooting - only his past legal issues.

Sure-Oz 01-07-2009 06:22 PM

I heard it on espn and there has been no word on a shooting, basically jones gave him a shot and it didn't work out, thats all

Mr. Laz 01-07-2009 06:29 PM

apparently it's more allegations about the same shooting

added story to OP

mikeyis4dcats. 01-07-2009 06:50 PM

different shooting, but while he was with Titans

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3817195

Valiant 01-07-2009 06:52 PM

Who was on here defending this guy a couple months ago??

Sure-Oz 01-07-2009 06:53 PM

He makes Dale Carter look like a saint

unothadeal 01-07-2009 06:54 PM

That...........is awesome!

unothadeal 01-07-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5366561)
I heard it on espn and there has been no word on a shooting, basically jones gave him a shot and it didn't work out, thats all

Pun intended?

siberian khatru 01-07-2009 07:03 PM

Sign him, Carl!

Oh, wait ...

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-07-2009 07:27 PM

One of the radio guys said he played one of his college spring games with an ankle bracelet on.

REAL Winner, this guy. "Douching your way to early retirement" by Pacman Jones. On sale now at Barnes and Noble!

SAUTO 01-07-2009 07:28 PM

its being reported that he PAID people to shoot at some guys

Deberg_1990 01-07-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 5366687)
Sign him, Carl!

Oh, wait ...

Sign em Scott!!!

SAUTO 01-07-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5366661)
He makes Dale Carter look like a saint

dale carter wasnt a saint?

FringeNC 01-07-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5366744)
its being reported that he PAID people to shoot at some guys

I saw that. A lot of these NFL guys are wannabe thugs; Jones is the real deal.

SAUTO 01-07-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5366751)
I saw that. A lot of these NFL guys are wannabe thugs; Jones is the real deal.

a REAL thug would have taken care of that himself

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-07-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5366748)
dale carter wasnt a saint?

:doh!:

Goin' to da' Harris House ta' pop some rounds, yo!:bang:

StcChief 01-07-2009 09:41 PM

where is the can't take 'em outta the hood......

Simply Red 01-07-2009 09:56 PM

himouttahood hoodouttahim

lazepoo 01-07-2009 10:26 PM

While he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt given his past, I still don't like to hear that he's being fired based on speculation from a couple of criminals under investigation. If there isn't even enough evidence for the police to actively investigate the case, they shouldn't be able to fire him for it, especially since it was already known to the NFL and the Cowboys before they hired him.

StcChief 01-07-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5367074)
himouttahood hoodouttahim

obviously not.....

Fritz88 01-08-2009 04:16 AM

I do not understand if Pacman is an idiot, reerun or just has the brain of a gay bird. If you can't learn from you third time getting into trouble, then you do not deserve to even play football. I hate it when such people misuse their fame and money.

the Talking Can 01-08-2009 05:31 AM

ed werder of espn reported that jerry jones may release TO as well, to remove distractions from the locker room...

booyaf2 01-08-2009 07:39 AM

Dammit Scott!

el borracho 01-08-2009 08:31 AM

Pacman's retirement plans center around either jail or an early grave. Keep living the dream, dumb****.

mikey23545 01-08-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazepoo (Post 5367150)
While he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt given his past, I still don't like to hear that he's being fired based on speculation from a couple of criminals under investigation. If there isn't even enough evidence for the police to actively investigate the case, they shouldn't be able to fire him for it, especially since it was already known to the NFL and the Cowboys before they hired him.

ROFL

jspchief 01-08-2009 10:11 AM

he's better than any of the guys we have

/Mecca

Demonpenz 01-08-2009 10:20 AM

garbage in garbage out

blueballs 01-08-2009 11:40 AM

So he's Pacman now
again

Chiefs Pantalones 01-08-2009 11:48 AM

ROFL

Has anyone seen any of this worthless human being's quotes on SportsCenter?! His education level is that of a 4th grader it's sad! He's such a waste of space in this world, people like him should be shot.

Huffman83 01-08-2009 12:06 PM

This may be a first! But I'm actually glad the Chiefs have such a promising group of CB's that they wouldn't be that desperate at CB to even consider Jones.

lazepoo 01-08-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5367657)
ROFL

Laugh all you want, but it isn't a stretch to think that something similar could happen to any one of us where we would be fired for something that we had already disclosed before being hired, and I don't think that's right. If it wasn't an issue to the cowboys in the first place, it shouldn't be more of an issue now just because some assclown at ESPN decided he would pile on so he could pad his resume with a pseudo-scoop of some rehashed old news.

jspchief 01-08-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazepoo (Post 5368277)
Laugh all you want, but it isn't a stretch to think that something similar could happen to any one of us where we would be fired for something that we had already disclosed before being hired, and I don't think that's right. If it wasn't an issue to the cowboys in the first place, it shouldn't be more of an issue now just because some assclown at ESPN decided he would pile on so he could pad his resume with a pseudo-scoop of some rehashed old news.

From what I've heard, this is a different incident.

And honestly, he had to fuck up a lot of times to get such a short leash. You reap what you sow.

Rain Man 01-08-2009 01:45 PM

After the alleged shooting of Joe "Pinky" Taylor last year, and the allegations in Atlanta of Clyde Johnson, Jeremy Blinky and Ted N. Key this year, prosecutors now have affirmed a motive by Pacman.

Chiefnj2 01-08-2009 01:53 PM

He'll be dead or in jail within 2 years of leaving the NFL.

jspchief 01-08-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5368521)
He'll be dead or in jail within 2 years of leaving the NFL.

I heard it put beautifully on the radio today.

"If he couldn't keep it clean when he had everything to lose, what's he gonna do when he has nothing to lose?"

Say hi to Rae Carruth, Adam.

lazepoo 01-08-2009 02:01 PM

My understanding after reading the article on ESPN was that it was one of the same incidents that the NFL and Cowboys had already been notified of before his reinstatement and hiring and that the "new evidence" wasn't even enough to get the police to actively investigate the case. If it's completely new and actionable evidence, I don't have a problem with what's going on, but if it's just old news with some opportunistic reporter trying to make a name for himself and Jerry Jones trying to save face after an embarassing season, I think that's BS.

Deberg_1990 01-08-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazepoo (Post 5368277)
Laugh all you want, but it isn't a stretch to think that something similar could happen to any one of us where we would be fired for something that we had already disclosed before being hired, and I don't think that's right. If it wasn't an issue to the cowboys in the first place, it shouldn't be more of an issue now just because some assclown at ESPN decided he would pile on so he could pad his resume with a pseudo-scoop of some rehashed old news.


I think its a case of where the Cowboys assessed Pacmans season and came to the conclusion of:

He isnt worth the potential embarrasment/distraction for the minimal amount he produced on the field.

lazepoo 01-08-2009 02:08 PM

If that's the case, it makes perfect sense, but that's not how it's being presented. I just have a real problem with people throwing other people under the bus in order to save their own ass or to make a name for themselves. I hate opportunists like that.

Chieftain58 01-08-2009 02:22 PM

They call him toast he got burnt so often

beach tribe 01-08-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5367532)
ed werder of espn reported that jerry jones may release TO as well, to remove distractions from the locker room...

It would be a good move IMO. Drop his ass before he gets any worse.

My hatred for the Cowboys would like to see him stay, but the arrival of Roy W. pretty much sealed his fate a while back.

ChiefJustice 01-08-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5368479)
After the alleged shooting of Joe "Pinky" Taylor last year, and the allegations in Atlanta of Clyde Johnson, Jeremy Blinky and Ted N. Key this year, prosecutors now have affirmed a motive by Pacman.


This :LOL: FTW!

http://www.maniacworld.com/pacman-ghosts.jpg

PunkinDrublic 01-08-2009 04:55 PM

Over ten years without a playoff win but keep calling yourselves americas team.

Baby Lee 01-10-2009 03:02 PM

http://media.canada.com/canwest/143/colbert04.jpg
Pacman Jones, complete waste of skin, or the most complete waste of skin?

Ultra Peanut 01-10-2009 03:04 PM

Introducing the newest new member of the Main Event Mafia (alongside Val Venis, D'Lo Brown, Kevin Thorn, and Tim White)!

Goapics1 02-10-2009 08:02 AM

It's official. Pacman has been released. Should we bring him in for a look?

Quote:


Monday, February 9, 2009
Cowboys release Pacman Jones

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Associated Press

IRVING, Texas -- Troubled cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones was released Monday by the Dallas Cowboys, making him a free agent.

The Cowboys said last month they planned to release Jones, and Monday was the first day teams could make waiver requests.

Jones was suspended for six games by the NFL after an alcohol-related scuffle in October with a team-provided bodyguard at a Dallas hotel.


Pacman Jones had 31 tackles and no interceptions in his nine games with the Dallas Cowboys.

The cornerback came to Dallas after being suspended for the entire 2007 season following multiple off-field incidents while with the Tennessee Titans. The Cowboys acquired him in a trade during the draft in April, and commissioner Roger Goodell cleared him to play at the end of the preseason.

Expected to give the Cowboys a boost on defense and special teams, Jones had 31 tackles and no interceptions in his nine games (six starts). He averaged only 4.5 yards on his 21 punt returns, with a long of 18 yards.

Before coming to Dallas, Jones was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention after Tennessee drafted him in the first round in 2005.

The Cowboys traded for him anyway, despite the 2007 suspension.

But on Oct. 7, Jones got into the incident with the bodyguard and was suspended again. Jones missed a seventh game later in the season with an injury.

The 25-year-old Jones spent part of his time away from football taking part in an alcohol rehabilitation program.

Tennessee received a fourth-round draft pick in the April trade. The Titans were also supposed to get a sixth-rounder next year, but because Jones was suspended again, Dallas will instead receive a fifth-round pick in 2009.

A call placed to Worrick Robinson, Jones' Nashville, Tenn.-based attorney, was not immediately returned Monday night.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3895558

Agent V 02-10-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goapics1 (Post 5475275)
It's official. Pacman has been released. Should we bring him in for a look?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3895558

As long as Pioli has the faster trigger finger, I don't see why not.

Reerun_KC 02-10-2009 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goapics1 (Post 5475275)
It's official. Pacman has been released. Should we bring him in for a look?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3895558

You didnt just say "should we bring him in for a look?" did you?

That is bannable phrase for having LFBIQ.... IF YOU had HFBIQ you would of said something more along the lines of "Hey guys Pacman has been cut, but I dont think he is worth the trouble when we already have two/three pretty solid CB's" or "Would a pick up of Pacman help or hinder our young secondary?"

No instead you break out LFBIQ..... Nice Job!

Skip Towne 02-10-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 5368096)
ROFL

Has anyone seen any of this worthless human being's quotes on SportsCenter?! His education level is that of a 4th grader it's sad! He's such a waste of space in this world, people like him should be shot.

Give it time. It ain't over yet.

bkkcoh 02-10-2009 08:47 AM

No, no one should give this guy another chance. Demand more out of your players. We have enough issues with LJ.


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