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Mr. Kotter 01-14-2009 01:01 AM

Herm Likely Here One More Year...
 
IMHO :shrug:

I'll try not to say I told you so....but my gut says Herm is back for one more year.

Think about it... :hmmm:

Personally, I hope I'm wrong, but it makes too much sense....if you really think about it (and you ignore Herm's "record"--which could be easy to do, given the state the Chiefs were in when he 'took over'.)

Pioli might be willing to go through one more draft with Herm (his strength) to add to the good base of young players we have. He'll then add a few key FAs with the cap space we have. Then tell Herm, "It's time to pull an Arizona or Baltimore...in 2009. Or you will be working in player personnel next year, or with another team."

No one EXPECTS the rebuild to get done in one year; so Pioli....gives lets Herm sink or swim. He could give him enough rope to hang himself, or Herm shocks the world by turning it around in one season (no "shock" really, given then NFL today.)

If Herm succeeds, Pioli adds to his legend; if Herm fails, Pioli fires him next year...none-the-worse for the one-year probation to Herm. And he gets his pick of a couple of strong head coach candidates sitting out the 2009 season. If anything, it just gives Pioli a "bye" year....to assess the team, the needs, and to develop a plan for 2010.

Thoughts? :shrug:

:hmmm:

Basileus777 01-14-2009 01:03 AM

You're crazy.

Tribal Warfare 01-14-2009 01:04 AM

My gut is telling me Herm gets the Axe, kind of like my prediction that Clark wants progrees. Lets see if my other prediction comes true which Clark wants a franchise QB this offseason( most likely Stafford if he's there

Mr. Kotter 01-14-2009 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5388869)
You're crazy.

I HOPE you are right. I'm ready for a COMPLETE house-cleaning, NOW.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-14-2009 01:05 AM

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Reaper16 01-14-2009 01:07 AM

This is consistent in quality with your political takes, at least.

Mr. Kotter 01-14-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5388877)

ROFLROFLROFL





Guess we'll see....





:toast:

Hammock Parties 01-14-2009 01:08 AM

Your gut, huh? I think that's just the sandwich you had.

chiefzilla1501 01-14-2009 01:08 AM

As a guy who doesn't think Herm is nearly as bad as people paint him to be, I can't think of a single scenario where Pioli would or should want to keep herm around.

He doesn't deserve someone else's table scraps.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-14-2009 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5388882)
ROFLROFLROFL





Guess we'll see....





:toast:

:)

Extra Point 01-14-2009 01:10 AM

I had that same crazy feeling, coming up with the opinion that Herm really needs to go. It won't benefit the organization, keeping an old hire from the old GM who was honored by a less-than-half empty stadium at his last game. Thinking about how Herm got here in the first place, solidifies it.

Herm will have lots of bucks to ease his pain. Think about that.

Agent V 01-14-2009 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5388883)
Your gut, huh? I think that's just the sandwich you had.

Must have been one disgusting sandwich.

Reaper16 01-14-2009 01:11 AM

The best rebuttal to this crazy talk that I can think of is this: If Pioli were to do as you say he might, then he would be looking out for himself before the team he was just hired to run. I simply don't think that Clark would have hired someone with that kind of selfishness.

Mr. Kotter 01-14-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5388883)
Your gut, huh? I think that's just the sandwich you had.

Could be.....Quizno's "Peppercorn Prime Rib (w/onions and peppers)" about 6 hours ago.... :hmmm:

I hope you are right....:)

keg in kc 01-14-2009 01:14 AM

There's been too much rumor about the staff told they're out for it to just be smoke, I think. We'll see.

Reerun_KC 01-14-2009 01:15 AM

Is Herm buying season tickets?

That is the ONLY way he is here next year...

A GM of Pioli's caliber is not going to assocaite with losers like Herm...

007 01-14-2009 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5388877)

ROFL

Bugeater 01-14-2009 01:52 AM

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Ebolapox 01-14-2009 01:53 AM

I just don't see it.

blueballs 01-14-2009 01:55 AM

how
pillowbiterry

smittysbar 01-14-2009 02:11 AM

No ****ing way!

Mecca 01-14-2009 02:16 AM

So the most sought after GM candidate in the league is going to keep this shitty coach.....the odds of that are below 1%.

DaKCMan AP 01-14-2009 06:58 AM

Nice title for a thread based solely upon a clueless, no-nothing opinion.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 07:12 AM

Pioli will take one look at Herm and then start laughing. Then he'll say "you think that's funny?" Then he'll start stabbing. Then he'll call out for canoli. Then he'll get on his Wii Fit before disposing of the body.

dirk digler 01-14-2009 07:20 AM

The mere fact that Herm learned through the media that Pioli got hired and no one consulted him on it is pretty telling IMO.

warrior 01-14-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5388877)


ROFLROFLROFL Love it

Bwana 01-14-2009 07:31 AM

Dear Herm, GET THE **** OUT!!

Delano 01-14-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5389062)
The mere fact that Herm learned through the media that Pioli got hired and no one consulted him on it is pretty telling IMO.

Yes. And add to that the odd silence out of Arrowhead.

You'd think they would be trying to staunch the gossip about Herm Edwards getting fired that is all over ESPN.

One call to John Clayton or a short press conference would end all of those damaging rumors.

FringeNC 01-14-2009 07:33 AM

Pioli wouldn't have taken the job unless Herm's departure had been part of the package. The idea the Pioli would want to keep a lame duck Herm Edwards for a year is ludicrous.

Delano 01-14-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5389074)
Pioli wouldn't have taken the job unless Herm's departure had been part of the package. The idea the Pioli would want to keep a lame duck Herm Edwards for a year is ludicrous.

Clark said they'd have the decision made by the time a GM was hired.

Herm's fate is sealed, we just don't know 'officially' know it.

tomahawk kid 01-14-2009 07:39 AM

If Herm makes it out of the day as Chiefs HC, I'll be surprised.......

Iowanian 01-14-2009 07:40 AM

I saw herm coming in this morning in his special suit.

http://www.wackystock.com/images/cli...ping_block.jpg

Ray farmer wasn't too far behind
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/IMZ/I...e_~pgi0254.jpg

"Mr Pioli would like to see you coach, bring your playbook"

MahiMike 01-14-2009 07:43 AM

Debbie Downer...

The Bad Guy 01-14-2009 07:43 AM

There is absolutely no basis for keeping Herm one more year.

None.

You can stretch and slice it anyway you want. He's got a record of 15-33.

Herm had enough rope to hang himself this year. I do not want this loser apart of this orgranization one more day, let alone one more season.

Some of you want to act like this is his first coaching job and he'll improve. He's made the same mistakes OVER and OVER. He will never learn. He will stay the same stubborn ass he's always been.

When is he going to fix the defense?

I pity any team that decides Herm is a good fit for them.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-14-2009 07:43 AM

Will someone change the title of the thread, it's horribly misleading.

DaKCMan AP 01-14-2009 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 5389088)
Will someone change the title of the thread, it's horribly misleading.

This.

Otter 01-14-2009 07:45 AM

Want to make a bet sig Kotter? My gut tells me your dead wrong and doing this shit for same reason an ADD kid has to be noticed at someone else's birthday party.

dirk digler 01-14-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5389073)
Yes. And add to that the odd silence out of Arrowhead.

You'd think they would be trying to staunch the gossip about Herm Edwards getting fired that is all over ESPN.

One call to John Clayton or a short press conference would end all of those damaging rumors.

Yep. Plus add to the fact that Steve Spagnulo was in Dallas interviewing yesterday says it all.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-14-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5388867)
Personally, I hope I'm wrong, but it makes too much sense....if you really think about it (and you ignore Herm's "record"--which could be easy to do, given the state the Chiefs were in when he 'took over'.)

they were 10-6 in vermeil's last year. he has turned them into a 2-14 team. this does not seem like progress to me.

The Bad Guy 01-14-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5389098)
Yep. Plus add to the fact that Steve Spagnulo was in Dallas interviewing yesterday says it all.

He was not in Dallas.

The Giants GM said yesterday that the Chiefs never called to ask permission to speak with Spags.

dirk digler 01-14-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5389109)
He was not in Dallas.

The Giants GM said yesterday that the Chiefs never called to ask permission to speak with Spags.

Ok thanks for the info. Apparently 610 is full of shhhhhiiiiiittttttttttt.

Ebolapox 01-14-2009 08:04 AM

I've found a song that describes the true fans' desire to keep herm one more year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by true fans' most inner thoughts
<style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> </style> Last night I had a crazy dream
A wish was granted just for me
It could be for anything
I didn't ask for money
Or a mansion in Canton, Ohio
I simply wished, for one more year with you

Chorus

One more year
One more dime
One more season, maybe I'd be satisfied
But then again
I know what it would do
Leave me wishing still, for one more year with you

First thing I'd do, is pray a new left tackle
Then I'd unzip my pants
And keep my brain turned off
I'd herm you ever second
say wins don't matter to me
Thats what I'd do, with one more year with you

Chorus

Leave me wishing still, for one more year
Leave me wishing still, for one more year


http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/b...rm_edwards.jpg

Scorp 01-14-2009 08:12 AM

Please, I don't ever want to see that face again.

Manila-Chief 01-14-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5388889)
The best rebuttal to this crazy talk that I can think of is this: If Pioli were to do as you say he might, then he would be looking out for himself before the team he was just hired to run. I simply don't think that Clark would have hired someone with that kind of selfishness.

This

And, Mr. Kotter (can't say just Kotter ... gotta be Mr.), if Pioli keeps Herm it will mean he is not the GM we all thought he is. Herm just hasn't lost games ... it's his coaching ability. He is simply not a SB winning coach. Has to rely upon Curl for basic decision ... nuf said.

Yes, anything is possible but if Herm stay my expectations of this GM goes way down.

Brock 01-14-2009 08:47 AM

He's out the door. That's not a tough decision to make at all.

Paniero 01-14-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5388867)
IMHO :shrug:

I'll try not to say I told you so....but my gut says Herm is back for one more year.

Thoughts? :shrug:

:hmmm:


With 15 posts a day for the last 8 years, I'd say your gut should be telling you a lot of things by now.

Like see a doctor.

RINGLEADER 01-14-2009 09:05 AM

Yesterday I was starting to think the same thing. But I've got to believe that when Pioli asks Herm who he wants for his Defensive Coordinator and Herm says Gunther it will be all over.

Mr. Kotter 01-14-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5389211)
Yesterday I was starting to think the same thing. But I've got to believe that when Pioli asks Herm who he wants for his Defensive Coordinator and Herm says Gunther it will be all over.


:hmmm:


http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...rts&id=6604046

:shrug:





FTR, I STILL hope I'm wrong though.

Rausch 01-14-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5389038)
Nice title for a thread based solely upon a clueless, [/b]no-nothing[/b] opinion.

The 'Noles would not allow a post 'err like this.

'Jus say'n...:)

Rausch 01-14-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 5389810)
:hmmm:
FTR, I STILL hope I'm wrong though.

Of course you are.

Always.

****ing every gawd-amned time!

DaKCMan AP 01-14-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5389820)
The 'Noles would not allow a post 'err like this.

'Jus say'n...:)

LMAO It was before 8am - a little bit of slack, please. :D


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