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Thig Lyfe 01-19-2009 01:31 PM

Would Pioli trade for Anquan Boldin?
 
http://deadspin.com/5134539/super-bo...-anquan-boldin

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Wearing a lime-green shirt, Boldin tried to bolt for the stadium exit before a small group of media caught him. Someone asked if reaching the Super Bowl eases what has happened between him and the franchise. "That's not an issue," Boldin said. "Like I told you guys at the beginning of the season, my main goal was to do this. I've come through with all of my promises. I fought. I gave my heart to this organization. It's paying off." Does he want to stay in Arizona? "Next question."
Okay, I know Boldin is too close in terms of style to Bowe, BUT. He's definitely an elite, Pro Bowl talent. I mean, he came back from that crushing hit against the Jets without missing a beat. Would Pioli consider taking a chance on Boldin (the same way he took a chance on Moss) in order to have an instantly improved receiving corps? You would have Boldin at #1, Bowe at #2 and maybe a rookie speedster in the slot. Fitzgerald and Boldin are kind of similar, and somehow the Cardinals had success with those two.

Thoughts?

CupidStunt 01-19-2009 01:33 PM

Wouldn't build around WRs at the expense of valuable draft picks.

And don't cite Moss. The Pats were/are loaded.

eazyb81 01-19-2009 01:34 PM

I'd lean towards no. Moss doesn't really seem like a NE-type player, but the value was insanely good for him (4th round pick). We'd certainly have to give up more than that for Boldin.

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5406403)
I'd lean towards no. Moss doesn't really seem like a NE-type player, but the value was insanely good for him (4th round pick). We'd certainly have to give up more than that for Boldin.

Ah, true.

I mean, if he could figure out a way to do it without doing it at the expense of other priorities, I think it would be a great move. But that would be the hard part, I guess.

FringeNC 01-19-2009 01:36 PM

Given Boldin's theatrics on the sideline yesterday, not only would Pioli never acquire him, he'd cut his ass if he were on the team. There will be zero malcontents on the team, especially at the place we are in at the talent cycle.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-19-2009 01:53 PM

How about this senario
 
Larry Johnson and a third round pick for Boldin would be a win-win situation for both teams. Maybe both players would have a better attitude and could make significant contributions to their new team. Pioli could make it happen.

DaKCMan AP 01-19-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 5406440)
Larry Johnson and a third round pick for Boldin would be a win-win situation for both teams. Maybe both players would have a better attitude and could make significant contributions to their new team. Pioli could make it happen.

Quit posting while you still can.

RippedmyFlesh 01-19-2009 01:55 PM

What is it about wide receiver that makes it 50-50 they will be a head case?
I just don't get it.You would think cornerbacks out on a island need some of that in them.
It just seems the the worst locker room cancers always seem to be wideouts.

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 5406440)
Larry Johnson and a third round pick for Boldin would be a win-win situation for both teams. Maybe both players would have a better attitude and could make significant contributions to their new team. Pioli could make it happen.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

RealSNR 01-19-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5406409)
Given Boldin's theatrics on the sideline yesterday, not only would Pioli never acquire him, he'd cut his ass if he were on the team. There will be zero malcontents on the team, especially at the place we are in at the talent cycle.

You mean malcontents like Randy Moss?

Boldin's not what I would call a malcontent. Moss was a bigger pain in the ass when he was with Minnesota.

CupidStunt 01-19-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5406446)
What is it about wide receiver that makes it 50-50 they will be a head case?
I just don't get it.You would think cornerbacks out on a island need some of that in them.
It just seems the the worst locker room cancers always seem to be wideouts.

Inherent selfishness.

FringeNC 01-19-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5406450)
You mean malcontents like Randy Moss?

Boldin's not what I would call a malcontent. Moss was a bigger pain in the ass when he was with Minnesota.

He hasn't been a malcontent at all with the Patriots. Additionally, Tom Brady commented that Moss was the smartest WR he has ever played with at any level.

Look, if we were good, Pioli may indeed consider bringing in some guy that doesn't perfectly fit the mold, but right now? No way.

RippedmyFlesh 01-19-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5406450)
You mean malcontents like Randy Moss?

Boldin's not what I would call a malcontent. Moss was a bigger pain in the ass when he was with Minnesota.

Rice is the best all time but Like or hate moss I am hard pressed to think of any receiver that physically brings more to the table than moss.
You just knew when he was a raider he would do better ANYwhere else.

JuicesFlowing 01-19-2009 02:13 PM

Boldin showed his true colors yesterday on the sideline, and even after he game. I'd never want that wearing a Chiefs uniform.

kstater 01-19-2009 02:15 PM

Why trade for him? Isn't he a FA this year?

The Franchise 01-19-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5406498)
Why trade for him? Isn't he a FA this year?

No...he's still under contract. He wanted a new one or he wanted to be traded.

The Franchise 01-19-2009 02:27 PM

I'm going to go with a no. We're not where we need to be right now as a team.....to be trading for other teams players. If we were set to make the playoffs next year and our only hole was the WR position....then yes. As it is right now....we need ALL of our draft picks to build a foundation for this team for years.

suds79 01-19-2009 02:35 PM

Coming from the organization that gave Randy Moss a 3rd try, I wouldn't rule anything out.

From what I see is that Boldin has two issues...

1 - He's a top flight WR who wants to be paid as such. Remember he wasn't a high draft pick.

2 - He probably doesn't like being 2nd fiddle to Fitzgerald. Seems like he hasn't gotten many balls this off-season.

If he came here he'd probably be paid and he's immediately be our best WR. I'd welcome him in a heartbeat. The guy's a stud.

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5406528)

2 - He probably doesn't like being 2nd fiddle to Fitzgerald. Seems like he hasn't gotten many balls this off-season.

Heh. That's what non-Chiefs fans like to refer to as "post-season" or "playoffs."

rtmike 01-19-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5406498)
Why trade for him? Isn't he a FA this year?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=3843834

"Boldin has three years left on the four-year, $22.75 million extension he signed after the 2005 season that keeps him under contract through 2010. He's making an average of $4 million a year."

They backed up an armored truck and dumped it in Fitzgeralds pocket right after the rise in the salary cap and Q got all bent and wants his share.

suds79 01-19-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5406494)
Boldin showed his true colors yesterday on the sideline, and even after he game. I'd never want that wearing a Chiefs uniform.

I'm sure people would get over it when he's putting up 1200 yard seasons.

The guy had a blow up that got caught on camera. I wonder how many arguments there are between players, coaches, etc that we never talk about because we don't see them.

suds79 01-19-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5406533)
Heh. That's what non-Chiefs fans like to refer to as "post-season" or "playoffs."

Opps. didn't notice that... yeah my bad.

smittysbar 01-19-2009 02:48 PM

He would be a great addition to this team.

RustShack 01-19-2009 02:52 PM

I wouldn't give up a lot for him at this stage at our rebulid, but if we can trade for him without losing much or hes just let go I would LOVE to have him.

NIUhuskies 01-19-2009 02:53 PM

not sure how good it would work out if Haley is the enxt head coach...

FREEMAN CALLS BOLDIN A “JACKASS”
Posted by Mike Florio on January 18, 2009, 11:40 p.m.

Our buddy Mike Freeman of CBS Sports had some choice words for Cardinals receiver Anquan Boldin, based on his behavior during Sunday’s NFC title game.

Freeman points out that, as the FOX cameras demonstrated, Boldin engaged in a fourth-quarter argument with offensive coordinator Todd Haley.

After the game, Boldin still had his panties in a bunch. Per Freeman, he abruptly left the field while his teammates were celebrating the victory, and then he abruptly left the locker room.

“I have to say in nearly 20 years of doing this, I’ve never seen a player more concerned about his arguing with a coach over making a Super Bowl,” Freeman writes. “What Boldin did almost never happens. Congratulations on making history, Anquan.”

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of legs this thing grows over the next two weeks.

And if it was part of Boldin’s plan to get out of town, it just might have worked.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

RippedmyFlesh 01-19-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 5406535)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=3843834

"Boldin has three years left on the four-year, $22.75 million extension he signed after the 2005 season that keeps him under contract through 2010. He's making an average of $4 million a year."

They backed up an armored truck and dumped it in Fitzgeralds pocket right after the rise in the salary cap and Q got all bent and wants his share.

A bargain for 1 year anyways.

greyhoodie 01-19-2009 02:58 PM

Huge difference between Moss and Boldin.

Moss was pissed that the rest of the team didn't give a crap if the team won or lose and only gripped when the team sucked.

Boldin was bitching on the day the team won the NFCCG.

Hydrae 01-19-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OP
Wearing a lime-green shirt, Boldin tried to bolt for the stadium exit before a small group of media caught him

Oh heck no. Noone wearing lime-green should ever be allowed on this team! :cuss:

kstater 01-19-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5406536)
I'm sure people would get over it when he's putting up 1200 yard seasons.

The guy had a blow up that got caught on camera. I wonder how many arguments there are between players, coaches, etc that we never talk about because we don't see them.

It wasn't just the sideline deal. Supposedly he left the stadium at the whistle instead of you know, celebrating a super bowl birth with his teamates.

Micjones 01-19-2009 03:04 PM

We're in a perfect position to draft Crabtree if a WR is that big a priority.
I wouldn't trade a Day 1 pick for Boldin.
We have bigger fish to fry.

BigMeatballDave 01-19-2009 03:08 PM

What a POS. How selfish can you get?

DrRyan 01-19-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5406409)
Given Boldin's theatrics on the sideline yesterday, not only would Pioli never acquire him, he'd cut his ass if he were on the team. There will be zero malcontents on the team, especially at the place we are in at the talent cycle.

I would not go so far as calling Boldin's actions on the sideline during yesterday's NFC Championship game theatrics. He was not pulling a TO "throw me the ball more" theatrics. He was pissed because he was not on the field at the end of the game(at least that is what is being reported here in AZ). The guy is an absolute beast after the catch. He plays WR like a RB on every play. I think it is ridiculous calling him malcontent over his actions on the sideline yesterday, he simply wanted to be on the field. Granted, he wants a contract which he will likely get in the off-season. He was told by the team in the pre-season when this first came up that they would sit down together after the season and discuss his contract.

Back on point though, I love watching the guy play, but I would not give up what the Chiefs would likely have to in order to land Boldin. He gives 100% on every play he is out there, but the way he plays leads to him continually getting injured, both minor and more significant in nature. I believe he was on the injury report almost every week this season.

RustShack 01-19-2009 03:41 PM

Lets trade for Boldin and draft Crabtree! Thigpen and the spread unite! ROFL

Mecca 01-19-2009 05:16 PM

Most players hate Todd Haley so...Boldin going off on him isn't anything new.

But no you won't see that because they could get a 1st round pick for Anquan Boldin. Boldin wants out and then at a key moment they don't have him on the field so he's pissed.

Extra Point 01-19-2009 05:18 PM

Picks for trades, not trades for picks. Trade after draft day.

StcChief 01-19-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5406494)
Boldin showed his true colors yesterday on the sideline, and even after he game. I'd never want that wearing a Chiefs uniform.

this. Coach shouldn't have had to jaw with him middle of game... What a d1ckhead.... Paging Al Davis.

Mecca 01-19-2009 08:40 PM

I can't wait till people hate players on the Chiefs who become good...I know it's coming the WR hate on this forum is strong.

Actually it comes down to players with personality provided that personality isn't being a drunk then it's ok.

chiefzilla1501 01-19-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5407390)
this. Coach shouldn't have had to jaw with him middle of game... What a d1ckhead.... Paging Al Davis.

Warner was jawing off at Haley too.


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