FOX sports rumor on Haley as HC of Chiefs
 

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Sources: Cards Todd Haley to be next Chiefs coach

League sources told the Daily News that GM Scott Pioli has targeted Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley to replace Herman Edwards, but doesn't want to kick him out the door until Haley officially accepts the job, which can't be offered until after the Super Bowl. -- Philadelphia Daily News



EDIT:

To Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli for his inexcusable treatment of the team's dead-coach-walking, Herm Edwards. Pioli, who was hired nearly 2 weeks ago, continues to let Edwards twist in the wind. He says he still hasn't made a decision on Edwards' fate, yet already has let three of Herm's assistants - defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, secondary coach David Gibbs and special-teams coach Mike Priefer - leave to take other jobs.
League sources told the Daily News that Pioli has targeted Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley to replace Edwards, but doesn't want to kick him out the door until Haley officially accepts the job, which can't be offered until after the Super Bowl.

Pioli also seems to be as paranoid as the guy he used to work for in New England - Bill Belichick. The Kansas City Star recently sent a writer to Pioli's hometown to do a harmless Scott's-roots feature. When Pioli found out, he called former teammates, classmates and neighbors and instructed them not to speak to the reporter. Beautiful.

So we are stuck with Herm until the SB? I will die.

I'm fine with this, which makes complete sense, another 9-10 days.

WTF? Then why didn't we fire Herm and interview Haley beforehand? It doesn't make any sense. This past week we were free to interview anyone in the Super Bowl. That goes for Todd Haley and Russ Grimm. We interviewed neither! Sounds like another national media type grasping at straws.

Can't wait that long. Bring on the Rat. ;)

If there is any "Meat" to this rumor that might actually happen.

:banghead:

Dammit Scott :cuss:

alot of folks here will. it will be alittle quieter going forward :D

Also it goes against what Pioli said in his presser in wanting for a head coach. He stated he wanted his head coach to be someone of experience. A vet in the head coaching ranks, not a newbie!

How do you know they didn't interview them? Since Clark started his search everything has been done in complete silence and no leaks. Pioli is the doing the same thing.

and again i ask .... what the hell has Haley done?


running a productive offense with all the talent his has in Arizona is NOT a big accomplishment imo.

Yup

A friend of the janitor in section 116 at Arrowhead told me that Scott Pioli's daughter told him that her daddy doesn't like candy and that Herm is a doodie head. Just reporting what I have heard about the situation.

I enjoyed this from the original article.....

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/spor...th_Eagles.html

Pioli also seems to be as paranoid as the guy he used to work for in New England - Bill Belichick. The Kansas City Star recently sent a writer to Pioli's hometown to do a harmless Scott's-roots feature. When Pioli found out, he called former teammates, classmates and neighbors and instructed them not to speak to the reporter. Beautiful.

We would have to ask for permission from either the Steelers or Cardinals to interview them. Coaches out of work you don't need permission and they can slip through the cracks unseen. It has been reported by many that the Chiefs did not interview either of the two top coordinators from the Super Bowl teams. Lastly Herm is still the HC and by league rules we couldn't interview Haley until Herm was gone.

Gee, another rumor......wow! Color me shocked even.

What noway ... It's Shanahan didn't Jack Harry and WPI say so???????

So your saying that all other teams in the NFL are going to be quiet as the Chefs?

IF Haley was interviewed by KC, the AZ media would of let someone know about it....

Rep ROFL

This guy is the stuff that message board legends are made of.

Doesn't matter to me. I'm going to trust Pioli on his coaches pick. He worked for two years with the guy. In my field I can tell after talking with soemone for 5 mintues whether they know how to do their job, what their ideas are like and how much depth of knowledge they have. I'm sure Pioli had many conversations with the guy over those 2 years.

If Pioli says he's the man. thats good enough for me.

Really? So how did we interview/tamper with Herm while DV was still the coach in KC? OR DV hired when Gun was still here...

Exactly.

He's probably killed some people.

Well Clark interviewed about 10+ NFL execs when he was looking for a GM and no one said thing.

When does fanatic cross the line to stalker
some of you need professional help

:spock: That's a bit odd.

Good luck with that... Especially with all the media attention superbowl teams garner...

Pittsburg media would be eating it up, trying to stir up doubt in AZ fans and players that their OC is good as gone, with his mind on his new position and not the game...

The reporter is going to be bagged and clubbed "V for Vendetta" style.

Not me.

If Pioli says that Donnie Edwards is the man, I'll give him deference. He's been a great player personnel man and has a strong resume there.

When it comes to picking a coach, he's never done it or anything closely resembling it.

I disagree completely with the idea of Haley as our HC. Pioli's time as BB's right hand man and player procurement guy does nothing to assuage that angst.

welllll get use to it. Pioli is the decider not you.

I'm not saying Haley is the man. Just thats its Pioli's decision to make. If you don't trust that why hire him in the first place?

Well no kiddin', I hadn't exactly turned my ringer up so as not to miss a call from the Chiefs front office.

I'm well aware that it's Pioli's decision to make. I'm equally certain that I'm not going to blindly accept it as the move to make just because he made it.

Poor Herm.

At any moment he can void his contract by taking a rewarding job coaching corner backs or linebackers and be done with evil Pioli but he wants his $3 million dollars for nothing more than being so incompetent they would rather part with the money than deal with his sorry ass again.

Poor, POOR Herman!

If they are actually making Herm twist and turn until then, and with the way Clark seems to feel about him, I bet they will reward him by keeping him in some capacity. Maybe as head scout or something.

Did he say that?

If he is the choice, I would support him. In fact I was a bit intrigued at first when he was being rumored. But the more I think about it the more I remember the main reason I don't care much for Parcells is the way he berates his players in public. Be it on the sideline or by calling them "she" in press conferences. Haley seems to be Parcells.2, in that regard.

Or "BAN!!!!"

What if it's a woman? :shrug:

This Mafioso silence is killing the media ROFL

2008 called. It wants it's one-word reply back. It's "This" now in 2009.

Blind homerism/trust only goes so far. :shake:

and while we are it drop the dammit scott crap. Thats a king Carl thingy.

We need a new one for Pioli.

Cardinals claim no one has asked permission to speak with Haley. Either they are lying, or we are so dead-set on him, we don't even need to interview him this week. Which is it?

How's bout "**** you, scott"?

So following this article's logic... if Pioli offers the head coaching vacancy to Todd Haley and he declines, is he going to keep Herm as the head coach?

At this point Herm can't be retained. If Haley rejects the offer, Plan B can't include Herm.

They're not going to officially interview anyone until Herm is fired. No one has ever "offically" interviewed a HC candidate while the old HC still had the job. Common sense and common decency.

Gets murky. Without officially asking permission, we'd be tampering. I have to believe that if we were dead-set on hiring him, we've talked to him. Perhaps we, Haley, and Arizona have an agreement in place to keep it quiet so as to not disrupt their preparation.

How about "unofficially." Then they can give the interview "official" status after deciding on Herm and no one's the wiser.

:hmmm:

Their Oline isn't that good. esp in the running game.

though I will admit they've stepped it up since the playoffs.

Mannaggia, Pioli!

Frankie, Dude MULTI-QUOTE!!!!!

I gotta say, I have mixed feelings about his "overtly mum" approach. At first I was for it, because I thought the media scum would have nothing to write about. Turns out to be true in some regards.....

I don't understand what the point is of holding onto Herm.

Even if Haley doesn't take the job, there's no way you can bring Herm back now. That'd be a total disaster.

This was so 2008, it is tired.

I believe that. Then it's not a surprise we haven't asked for permission.

Maybe he wants Herm and Herm's staffs opinion on the current players on the roster and Senior Bowl reports before he lets them go.

I have a feeling Pioli is going to come out of no were with his choice for HC. Some of this stuff just doesn't make any damn sense to me. I could understand if he was trying to scoop another team to get his guy, but I don't see it. This is just getting stupid. Why not interview Haley this week, why wait.... unless he wants to see how he does in the big game.

If Pioli is firing Edwards he is a p.o.s. for making him squirm in his pants, imagine if it was you at your job and they were doing this to you. All signs are pointing to him getting canned so why wait? Plus, They would hav to abide by the Rooney rule and have to interview at least 1 minority and couldn't announce there decision immediately after the SB until this was done.

Why?

Did Herm even go with them this week? I haven't heard one way or the other.

Doesn't interviewing Herm for his own job cover that rule?

i sure would ****ing think so

Dennis Green and whoever his OC's were weren't able to get all that talent above #17 in points scored for their three years.

Because I'm sure "league sources" were able to figure out what they hadn't previously figured out. It's just as possible someone took Colinsworth's speculation about Haley and ran with it...

Not really. You do not have to follow the Rooney rule, worst case you don't and you get a fine. Unlikely they will go that route but it is certainly a possibility and has been done before(Detroit Mariucci hiring).

Herm will be making $4 million, regardless. Pioli doesn't owe Herm a damn thing, in fact, Herm's LUCKY, that Scott is being so thorough and actually giving Herm a shot of making a case for himself. Herm isn't the victim.

I still think Pioli is checking out everything that went on the past four years. You have to admit there were some real head scratchers. Draft picks on defense who don't pan out. Players brought in on defense who don't pan out. Players already here who were let go and panned out else where, but couldn't play here.

If it turns out to be all CP and Gun instead of Herm, then maybe Herm deserves more time to let his plan work.

If not, then let him go. But check everything out thouroughly before the decision is made. And I suspect that is what is happening.

Because you always have a shit ton of posts in a row, makes it a lot easier to read if you would use the multi-qoute like everyone else.

Still, there's no changing the fact that Herm is NOT a good game-day coach.

1- Poor clock management.
2- (Evidence of) handcuffing his OC with conservative calls.
3- Lack of ability for 2nd half adjustments.

That's only because I don't spend all day on th CP. I come back to threads after a lot of posts have been made sinse my departure. So sue me!

I understand what you are saying. I'm not a huge fan of Herms either.
but maybe his hands were tied to some degree on many issues by CP as well. And Herm is doing great at keeping his mouth closed right now... something Gun didn't do on his way out the door.

Its cooler to be a post whore.

:spock:

Holy Pioli!

I was thinking that myself. ... lol

Bumping this because I still think Haley's the guy.

And I'm just fine with that.

Of course Herm is going to go gracefully. He's got 3 or 4 million reasons to keep his calm besides not burning bridges.


He's eating a canoli

after finishing his ravioli

I'm starting to think Haley is the guy too.

The only concerns I have is his desire to abandon the running game, and who he hires to run his defense.

This article had some legs. LOL

I have no problem with Haley. He's less likely to get into a power struggle with Pioli over personnel decisions than Shanny or Cowher.