All kidding aside, #3 pick?
 

I keep reading that this year's draft is lean on QB's, DE, and others.
Does this mean that there is there is fat at the other positions?
Hall of Fame type fat?
We are due to draft our next hall of famer.
Who is this draft class' future hall of famer? and can we get him with the 3rd pick?
If you say stafford, well, I say BS

Stafford

Aaron Curry looks promising at OLB, but HOF potential Idk. I really haven't gotten to see him play, but at #3 you have to have that future HOF player there.

I dont think Stafford is worth 3
" " " Sanchez is worth 3

We have to trade down a little bit.
Hell I wouldnt even mind Maclin if we traded down.

No

Douche.

There is no such thing as a sure HOF player. Not even close.

This makes my head hurt.

Pioli will trade down just watch and see.

What does worth number 3 mean?

To me a number 3 pick should be a 10 year starter at the very least.

Its funny when people say Sanchez and Stafford will be top picks next year, but they shouldn't be this year.

Back at ya.

Top 5 pick at the very least should become Probowlers within just a few seasons.

I would love to see that.

Well, they are the top prospects coming out. And a lot of times when top QB's come out they usually end up being drafted high. nothing guaranteed though.

Same to you.

Stafford's the worst QB Ive seen to be projected that high in quite some time, well since Alex Smith

Me too. It would be very wise choice for a team that has many many holes.

I'm of the belief that we might actually be able to trade down to #10 (San Francisco might want to get in front of Seattle in order to grab Sanchez or Stafford.) If we do this, then I'd like to see us get a guy like Maulauga from USC. If we stay at #3, I'm a fan of drafting the best tackle available so that we can set our tackles for the next 10 years. If we don't keep improving the line, we're going to struggle to keep QB's healthy.

If i could choose between Stafford and Sanchez, I'll take Sanchez hands down. He's more mobile and yeah, he's only been a starter for 1 year, but the kid's a leader and a winner. I like his attitude.

Who's BS?

Draft Curry or Crabtree

Stafford has alot of things working for him to be the KC pick one he lives next to the head Teaxas regional scout for the Chiefs, and lives in the same area that the Hunts do. Thus, he probably has already met them while he was still in highschool.

I need to poop

Hes a better prospect than Ryan in every way...

If CoMo doesnt like a guy its a good sign to take him.

These two players are not at all similar. In any way.

Curry or Crabtree... Or a DE but not a qb Thigpen is pretty good we need D. Or if Crabtree is to talented to pass on then take the best player. Tony is gonna be finished sometime soon, so we could use that 1-2 punch. For now are very good 1,2,3 punch. + the running game.

You know we already have a possession WR in Bowe right?

I'm starting to learn that.

That means he's supposed to catch the ball, right?

And that hes kind of big and slow.

ROFL:doh!:

I am tired of reading these statements. Brandon Albert is our LT, period. You don't draft a RT with the 3rd pick.

truth

The LT we drafted #3 would be our LT, not RT. I think we should leave Albert at LT, but he wasn't Pioli's pick or our HC's(assuming the axe falls on Herm). They can easily move Albert to guard if they feel hes best there and want thier LT of the future. Its a whole different story if we still had Carl and Herm though.

If Pioli's as good at evaluating talent as we think, there ain't no way he's spending a top pick and $60 million on a tackle to "upgrade" Albert, therefore he would be spending the pick on a RT.

3rd pick is greater than the 15th pick-your logic flawed.

That's what I said. There is no need to move Albert to guard, Pioli isn't going to move him.

What if he thinks Albert can the like Will Shields and he thinks whoever we draft could be like Willie Roaf? What if he thinks Albert is just some above average LT?

Im quoting this to show my approval of this message.

You have no idea how Pioli or our HC will think.

Yes, "Fitz-Mania" has staunched the flow of blood to the brain due to the collective man-crush/hard on experienced by some fans.

Will Shields was found in the third round IIRC. You don't waste a top 5 pick on a guard.

He IS NOT going to move him, why would he move him? Albert is fine at his position, what philosphy could they bring in that would hinder Albert at LT??

You missed the point. Albert is going to be a damn good LT, and Pioli will see that.

Andre Smith is NOT better than Albert.

When did I ever say draft an OG in the top 5 you douche bag. Also I said a player like Shields, not Shields...

Then you can bump this up and serve me a plate of crow, but I'll take my chances (based on how Albert played at LT - that's the point).

But Smith is better than Monroe... Monroe must be better than Albert since Albert couldn't start at LT over him... but Albert is better than Smith... :hmmm:

You would technically be wasting the pick. You already have a LT......go fill another hole. You don't draft a replacement for your young/good LT because you think the LT that is available could be better than him.

Two possession WR's seems to work for the Cardinals :shrug:
Arent ocho-cinco and TJ Housh considered possession guys too?

I don't think we should draft a LT, I think we should draft Stafford or Sanchez. MAYBE Curry but I would much rather have the QB.

Didn't, not couldn't.

I'll wager right now that every OT that gets drafted in the first round this year and starts 15+ games as a rookie gives up more sacks than Albert.

I understand that point completely, were we disagree, is that you are assuming our line needs no help, where as, I see, that ONLY, ALBERT has a long-term future with the team. The rest could use major upgrades and I don't believe Waters will be here for more than a couple of years. I see one spot filled and four that need to be upgraded.

Wow, easy there youngster, I made a comment on something you posted. I never accused you of saying that, my point was if you draft another OT, then slide Albert to Guard, it is not a smart move with the way he is playing. It would be the equivolent of drafting a guard in the 5th spot, and paying him LT money, and then dishing even more money out for his replacement LT. Not a smart move when Albert is doing a very good job.

Yep, I said the same thing, but apparently we don't know what we are talking about.

I don't disagree with that at all. I think we need upgrades at C, RG and RT, along with a future prospect for LG -- but none of that has any relevance to the No. 3 pick because ONLY a LT is appropriate there, and we have a damn good (potentially elite) one of those.

I think CJ and TJ are pretty deceant deep threats. Housh would be more of a possesion reciever than Chad though.

Yep. I understand where you're coming from BigChiefFan, but this post really sums it up IMO. I think we can address our other O-Line issues outside of the first round easily. We could get Mack, Luigs, or one of the other good centers in the 2nd round. I think we might even possibly be able to snatch Alex boone in the 4th if we get really lucky, he is in the 3rd-4th round range right now.

Good post. We obviously can and will look in the later rounds for upgrades to our line, I just think the LTs of this draft are top 10 picks in most drafts, so I prefer VALUE out of the draft. I'm not advocating going after a LT, just that there are some damn good players there, that could improve our o-line and I wouldn't fault the Chiefs for going down that road is all.


BTW, I think Eugene Monroe is going to kick ass and take names in the NFL.

I agree. Thats the Patriot way. Pioli knows the players and if he can get as many picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds as possible he'll do it. Or i could see him trade the 3rd overall pick for someone elses #2,#3,#4 and a #1 next year. And he'll get 4 Pro Bowlers out of it.

Yeah They Both can go deep and so can Bradley.
 

I am not apposed to taking the best linebacker in the draft (Curry) We need a DE also J. Peppers is the best Free Agent veteran out there. He may even be better than J. Allen. If Pioli landed Peppers that would make me very content. Plus a good choice in the 2nd round.... We pick #2 overall in the 2nd round. That can be a good starting linebacker. I am all for Linebackers and Peppers. But Crabtree at 3 is also appealing. I think Thigpen is good why not just give him another weapon. Tony likes him. So do I and Bowe had good numbers + M. Bradley throw in Crabtree with C. Gailey calling plays that could be leathal. You can never have enough weapons and I like Crabtree more than the dude from Missouri.

jeremy maclin. I like Crabtree better than Maclin

Funny, that's what they said about Fitzgerald, possession receiver.

Crabtree doesn't have the leaping ability, hands, or route running ability to even be mentioned in the same breath as Larry Fitzgerald, dude.

Should every QB with an average arm be compared to Joe Montana? Is that the curve we're grading on now?

I'm just saying, coming out of college, wasn't Fitz labeled as a possession receiver?

Also, are you saying he hasn't improved in his time in the NFL?

Crabtree can't improve his route-running in the same time frame? Or his hands?

Sanchez

I prefer we acquire a QB too. I'm fine with Stafford. I like Sanchez a little better. I'd also be cool with Cassel + Crabtree...

has he ran yet?

I don't want any receiver in the top 5 that needs to work on his hands.

Given this draft position, he needs to be a freak.

I'd rather have Maclin over Crabtree, we need the speed guy.
Crabtree is the same type reciever as Bowe.

lets see(and i dont like the idea of drafting a WR at 3) crabtree and fitzgerald both played 2 seasons in college and crabtree had the BEST 2 years in college history..

also fitz=6'3" 220
crabtree=6'3" 214

Spread offense.

Shitty Big 12 defenses.

Tech QB's are known to set records, too. Doesn't mean I want one.

That said, it will be interesting to see what Crabtree runs.

fitz 40 yards time=4.68
walter football has crabtree at 4.48

If you know he's Will Shields you do....Not that we know that.

Where all my "BPA" peeps at? I dont think its "Ideal" that you pick O-line, but if you get a great player, ,why not? we could do anything we wanted to do offensively when we had 3 all pro players on the line. I think the thinking is that Albert is a very good LT learning the position. If you can get a player who is a natural LT already experienced there and Move Albert to RT or RG where he was projected as a probable Pro bowl player, you can improve 2 positions with 1 pick, not just add a RT or G.
Just sayin thats the argument. Will Shields wasnt exactly a detrement at RG and he was making some serious bank most of his career. 2 great players is > than 1.

That being said, I'd love to see Curry. That kid is a beast with pro-bowl potential. Look what Merriman did for SD. team him with Peppers and we have a serious Defensive upgrade.

Fitz seems alot faster than 4.68, damn.

But id rather have J-Mac over crabtree. Not just because Im a Mizzou homer, but because we need that speed guy on the other side of D Bowe. Plus he will improve our return game greatly, and I can get a Maclin Chiefs jersey.

all right.
when I requested planet feedback on the subject, I wasn't necessarily asking who we should draft. (maybe i did but if I really wanted to here a bunch of stafford, sanchez, crabtree, etc I could reference any number of draft threads all over nfl boards)

Remeber when we drafted gonzales? in the teens, i believe? right off the bat he was HOF potential. If we had known a HOF TE he could have been a top 5. see where I'm going?
so, let me rephrase:
Is there a player who is a man amongst boys at their position who would be worth a number 3 pick?
Is there a position that is so rich with talent, for instance OG, a safety even, or... , that wouldn't normally draft at #3 but the dude is a can't miss?

I'm not sure there's ever a "can't miss" dude...

If we don't get Cassel, it has to be Sanchez or Stafford.

Michael Crabtree is not Larry Fitzgerald this non sense needs to stop, if anything he's more like Boldin and that's saying he hits better than most think. Crabtree is similar to Bowe, it's a shitty WR year it's helping him and Maclin aswell, neither are worth a top 5 selection to this team.

This team needs 1 of the QB's more than anything, a WR is an exception position in the top 5, these guys aren't the jaw droppers it requires to be a top 5 WR.