The Thread that Claythan Hates
 

Claythan, here's an interesting situation developing....

If the Chiefs hire Mike Shanahan, the coach you've been wanting for so long, that could mean that Tyler Thigpen becomes the Chiefs' QBOTF.

While Shanahan seemed to like Cutler, Thigpen is the mobile, bootlegging QB that he's always loved.

Just a thought.

Coming to a post near you........ A Meltdown ROFL

Herms gone, why you still here?

Pioli isn't going to keep Thigpen as QBOTF I bet. The Chiefs are going to keep drafting QBs every year, that's according to Clark Hunt.

If Shanahan sees something in Thigpen, go Thigpen.

I do not hate Tyler Thipgen. I want him to succeed. I just doubt him.

Shouldn't you be on suicide watch?

Why? Did you sleep with my girlfriend?

You - Girlfriend? ROFL

Is your girlfriend a life size blow up doll of Herm in his red sweater vest?

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I'm just messing with you. But I also wanted to bring up that this could be a really interesting pairing. I always thought that if Plummer ever got his head out of his ass, he would have been a virtually unstoppable force in Shanahan's offense. When Plummer was on, he was impossible to stop.

Thigpen could be a very interesting option in a Mike Shanahan offense. While I'm sure Shanahan likes a Cutler-like QB, Denver hasn't been the same wild and wacky bootleg/misdirection offense that we used to know them for having. This kind of offense is actually tailor-made for a guy like Thigpen. Doesn't mean he's the best option, but it's something to think about.

Don't knock it until you've tried it

In all seriousness, though, I know reerun likes to give me shit, but he knows that I am far from being a Herm supporter--I don't think he deserves nearly the shit he gets, but I have said many times over that he never was a good long-term option for this team. Just to make that clear, because it seems to get lost somehow.

So, you recently slept with a blow up doll of Herm in his red sweater vest? :eek:

You need to be able to hit a target downfield. Thigpen hasn't shown that. The main thing a QB does is still passing the football.

While true, he already throws a better deep ball than Plummer, he'd be in an offense where the deep ball is a much lower priority than the short and intermediate routes (which Thigpen hasn't been bad at), and it would revolve around an offense where the trickery in moving the QB in all different directions opens up your running game.

As good as Cutler is and while Cutler is not a statue, it just seemed like that misdirection trickery has been missing in Shanahan's offense of late. Maybe that's why they haven't been able to run the ball nearly as well as they used to.

You slept with a life size blow up doll of Herm in his red sweater vest? :spock:

The ground game fell off b/c the talent wasn't as great as previous seasons...

Uh, you've been slurping Herms sac for the three years he's been in town. The fact that you did so on a different board doesn't negate the fact. I know, I was there, and if the board over there hadn't crashed, I'd have your posts to refer to. It's only of late that you've changed your tone on Herm and his obvious stupidity. Then out of the other side of your face, you try to justify the same stupidity. Go sell your bullshit to somebody else. Men are talking here.

I am a contrarian and I know this. I don't argue against points just to get a reaction, I just don't have much interest discussing a topic everybody already agrees with already. I have always doubted many facets of Herm's game, but it doesn't make for interesting argument because everybody agrees with it anyway. And I have never been convinced that he was a Super Bowl coach or a long-term option, but I was willing to give him every chance to prove otherwise. I don't think he fairly got that chance, but I also believe that the Chiefs had no choice but to fire him in 2009.

You can spin it any way you want to. I have never liked nor hated Herm. I stand by the idea that I will never understand why he is as hated as he is.

Chiefzilla lays one on a tee to be kicked out of the end zone, and Reerun goes Charlie Brown and actually ends up getting the ball the pulled away by Lucy.

Top Tard moment of the year for these two. Fortunately it's only January so there is plenty of time to top this.

Yeah, let's make a thread for an attention whore so he can post more than he usually does!

Shanahan loves strong armed QBs who can boot.

Thigpen isn't strong armed, and I question whether he can really throw on the run.

All Shanahan coming here would guarantee is that Mark Sanchez or Matt Stafford is the Chiefs QBOTF.

I don't see you inspiring traffic.

STFU

I must be the greatest!

Inspiring traffic? ROFL

Sanchez would also be an ideal QBOTF. Shanahan can make it work with Stafford, as he did with Cutler, but I just think a guy like Sanchez or Thigpen lets him open up the whole playbook. Sanchez isn't a mobile guy per se, but what has impressed me most about him is how well he throws on the run and how elusive he is when a rush is coming.

Yeah, people swerve to avoid his lard ass when he uses a crosswalk.

To me Thigpen has shown that under the right circumstances then he can fill in. He's not a QBotF, he's an adequate backup. That's more than he was when he came here. He was a last resort.

Why are we worrying about this when Shanahan coming here is pretty much a pipe dream.

This thread's about football?!?!!

Thought for sure it would be about pro-heterosexuality!!

If by "pipe dream" you mean the prolonged vegetative state you go into after being hit by one then yes...

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Shanahan is not coming to KC. He wants to go to a winning team that is ready to win now. If Shanahan came to KC he would need 4 new O-lineman- 3 new WR's, a new QB, new RB, new TE (TG is getting old), 3 new D-lineman, 3 new linebackers... And Shanahan wouldn't have control of personnel decisions like he is accustomed too.

If Shanahan wanted to rebuild a 2-14 team from the ground up (which he doesn't) he would want to be able to pick his players.

This idea that it takes 3-4 years to rebuild an NFL team in today's day and age is ludicrous.

You guys have been rebuilding for 2 or 3 years already, Oakland has been rebuilding for the past 6 seasons, Denver has been rebuilding the defense for the past 2 seasons.

The Dolphins and Falcons were average teams with a decent defense already there. They played "Martyball" with their running game all season and then were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.

No we haven't been rebuilding for two or three years.

Yes, we had some draft picks come in and play in '06 and '07, but the Chiefs were trying to plug some holes with vet free agents like McIntosh and Nap Harris to continue the cycle of mediocrity that we've endured for years.

The rebuild started with blowing up the roster and playing a bunch of rookies in '08.

We have been "rebuilding" with two complete morons in charge. We weren't rebuilding; we were Detroit South.

Shanahan would take Cutler over Plummer. He would also take Stafford/Sanchez over Thigpen.

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No ****ing way Shanny keeps Thigpen as a starter. He will want his Elway or Cutler. Thigpen is not even close talent wise to either of them.

I could understand to start the season... but not as the future.

I agree. But he's done a decent job last year and hopefully will develop this off season. He has nothing but to get better.

Absolutely. And LJ could be one of those down hill, cutback runners that Denver has thrived on.

Exactly.

And this is true of any competent HC in the league, not just Shanarat.

I'm not so sure that's true. Shanahan did decide to bench Cutler for Plummer, but I don't know if he's happy with that decision or if he regrets it. The Broncos were an astounding 40-19 with Plummer as their QB. So far, they are 17-20 with Cutler as their starter. But yes, Sanchez seems like a guy who could be exceptional at a Plummer-type role.

I think Plummer was absolute garbage, but there is no doubt that the Broncos' offense under Plummer was a lot scarier than it was under Cutler. Shanahan's playcalling during the Plummer era was masterful, even if the QB he had was pretty lousy and inconsistent. I don't know that I have ever seen an offense with so much trickery and misdirection in my life. It's interesting that Shanahan had so much success with Elway and Plummer, but limited success with Griese and Cutler--two guys who were more pocket passers than they were guys he can roll out.