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Mecca 01-28-2009 08:34 PM
Scott Wright Podcasts...if you're interested
 
Here's his first one from last week....he discusses alot of things including guys not going to the senior who should have like Michael Johnson and James Laurenitis.

mms://nick9.surfernetwork.com/WGDPFiles/Draft12209.wma

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2009 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5435980)
Here's his first one from last week....he discusses alot of things including guys not going to the senior who should have like Michael Johnson and James Laurenitis.

mms://nick9.surfernetwork.com/WGDPFiles/Draft12209.wma
Did you hear Laurinaitis' excuse?

He was sick the week before.

That's not gonna go over very well with GM's.

Mecca 01-28-2009 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5435988)
Did you hear Laurinaitis' excuse?

He was sick the week before.

That's not gonna go over very well with GM's.
That's pretty sad, he basically said he thinks Michael Johnson is hiding because he realizes he would get exposed, and he feels bad for any team that takes him high.

He said the only guys he thinks had every right to not go were Curry and Jenkins, and guys like Monroe and Jason Smith can make a decent case but everyone else should have been there.

He probably really will piss some people off because when discussing QB's he absolutely does not like Colt McCoy as a prospect...and I know some here have liked him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-29-2009 12:30 PM
He should crap on Colt McCoy. He's an insurance agent.

BigChiefFan 01-29-2009 12:37 PM
I love Scott Wright's website. He has some great information on his board.

the Talking Can 01-29-2009 03:38 PM
that was a great listen....of course, he had me at "you have to draft a QB when you have chance"..and he loves Stafford..

OnTheWarpath15 01-29-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5438711)
that was a great listen....of course, he had me at "you have to draft a QB when you have chance"..and he loves Stafford..
He contradicts the shit out of himself though.

He states the "Golden Rule" of not passing on a franchise QB unless you already have one in the write up on Detroit, yet he has the Chiefs pass on Sanchez - and makes the "Golden Rule" comment again when he has the Niners pick Sanchez.

the Talking Can 01-29-2009 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5438752)
He contradicts the shit out of himself though.

He states the "Golden Rule" of not passing on a franchise QB unless you already have one in the write up on Detroit, yet he has the Chiefs pass on Sanchez - and makes the "Golden Rule" comment again when he has the Niners pick Sanchez.

i missed that part, i'm "at work"....boo that man

OnTheWarpath15 01-29-2009 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5438759)
i missed that part, i'm "at work"....boo that man
No, it's on the write-ups in his mock:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php


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the Talking Can 01-29-2009 04:00 PM
yeah, he's making a "Thigpen" exception to the golden rule...no thanks, give me the damn QB

Mecca 01-29-2009 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5438752)
He contradicts the shit out of himself though.

He states the "Golden Rule" of not passing on a franchise QB unless you already have one in the write up on Detroit, yet he has the Chiefs pass on Sanchez - and makes the "Golden Rule" comment again when he has the Niners pick Sanchez.
I think that's one of those, if it was me I'd be taking a QB but I'm giving them who I think they're going to take kind of things.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-29-2009 09:48 PM
The one thing that really bothers me about Wright is that he bans people if they link another site on there if it's not gbn or draftdaddy(??)

Hal McRae 01-29-2009 10:16 PM
I think Wright does a real good job with his mocks and he's got a nice message board -- tons of good info and posters.

But didn't some liberal law professor from Colorado accuse him of writing racist scouting reports -- anti-white players? :Peace: :LOL:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...rained-racism/

eazyb81 02-01-2009 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5436010)
That's pretty sad, he basically said he thinks Michael Johnson is hiding because he realizes he would get exposed, and he feels bad for any team that takes him high.

He said the only guys he thinks had every right to not go were Curry and Jenkins, and guys like Monroe and Jason Smith can make a decent case but everyone else should have been there.

He probably really will piss some people off because when discussing QB's he absolutely does not like Colt McCoy as a prospect...and I know some here have liked him.
Agree on Johnson, and I've said before I want nothing to do with him.

When you watch him play, he is extremely disappointing considering his measurables. He should have dominated at the college level with his size and speed.

aturnis 02-01-2009 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5446285)
he is extremely disappointing considering his measurables. He should have dominated at the college level with his size and speed.
So wouldn't you want to evaluate the level of coaching he's been given? If it wasn't very good coaching, you have to assume what he did, he did on natural talent, no? If his coaching sucked, would he have much more potential with good coaching and technique?

ZootedGranny 02-01-2009 10:19 PM
Here's his newest one, recapping the Senior Bowl: http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media...Draft12909.mp3

eazyb81 02-01-2009 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5449431)
So wouldn't you want to evaluate the level of coaching he's been given? If it wasn't very good coaching, you have to assume what he did, he did on natural talent, no? If his coaching sucked, would he have much more potential with good coaching and technique?
It's not like G-Tech is some no name D3 program. They had a quality coaching staff while he was there.

Johnson didn't even start until this season, and he never dominated in college like he should have.

I've said it before, but he has the body of a basketball player to me. He almost looks like a giraffe.

Mecca 02-01-2009 10:57 PM
Well he was coached by Chan Gailey...

aturnis 02-02-2009 07:51 AM
Gailey was the head coach, not the D-line coach.

aturnis 02-02-2009 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5449791)
It's not like G-Tech is some no name D3 program. They had a quality coaching staff while he was there.
I'm not defending him, I have no opinion on him. More of a question really. You say he had better than D3 coaching, but so did the Chiefs D-line. I don't see where that makes any argument that his position coaching was any good.

I personally think it'd ALWAYS be a good idea to evaluate a players coaching when dealing with guys like M.J., who may have under achieved. I think this is a good way to go about finding 2nd round guys who wind up being top of their class. Find out whether his coaching sucked, he is uncoachable, or has maxed out his potential. Does that not sound right?

eazyb81 02-02-2009 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5450212)
I'm not defending him, I have no opinion on him. More of a question really. You say he had better than D3 coaching, but so did the Chiefs D-line. I don't see where that makes any argument that his position coaching was any good.

I personally think it'd ALWAYS be a good idea to evaluate a players coaching when dealing with guys like M.J., who may have under achieved. I think this is a good way to go about finding 2nd round guys who wind up being top of their class. Find out whether his coaching sucked, he is uncoachable, or has maxed out his potential. Does that not sound right?
Sure it sounds right, but Johnson didn't even start until his senior year. Did poor coaching only hurt him and not the other defensive linemen, despite the fact they have less talent? Did poor coaching make him skip out on the Senior Bowl when he could have received NFL-level coaching?

Also, I'm not a big believer in poor coaching being the reason KC's d-line has not produced. I'd say that has more to do with poor scouting and not getting the best guys for your system.

aturnis 02-02-2009 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5450310)
Sure it sounds right, but Johnson didn't even start until his senior year. Did poor coaching only hurt him and not the other defensive linemen, despite the fact they have less talent? Did poor coaching make him skip out on the Senior Bowl when he could have received NFL-level coaching?

Also, I'm not a big believer in poor coaching being the reason KC's d-line has not produced. I'd say that has more to do with poor scouting and not getting the best guys for your system.
:sulk: I know, the d-line sucks b/c they suck. :sulk:

Mecca 02-12-2009 04:27 AM
http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media...Draft12909.mp3

Lots of Stafford talk, and even addressing the fear of taking a QB.

And then the next week..

http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media.../Draft2509.mp3

the Talking Can 02-12-2009 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5482851)
http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media...Draft12909.mp3

Lots of Stafford talk, and even addressing the fear of taking a QB.

And then the next week..

http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media.../Draft2509.mp3
thanks, these are really good....

OnTheWarpath15 02-12-2009 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5482972)
thanks, these are really good....
How long are they?

I have to leave for class soon.

the Talking Can 02-12-2009 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5482978)
How long are they?

I have to leave for class soon.
an hour, i think....perfect for me as i'm tied to a computer at work....they go over everyone in detail....

OnTheWarpath15 02-12-2009 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5483019)
an hour, i think....perfect for me as i'm tied to a computer at work....they go over everyone in detail....
Damn.

I'll have to listen this afternoon, though I'm pretty sure what he's going to say regarding the QB's.

the Talking Can 02-12-2009 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5483025)
Damn.

I'll have to listen this afternoon, though I'm pretty sure what he's going to say regarding the QB's.
he's a true fan slayer....plus he loves Stafford - "I'd take Stafford over Sanchez ten times out of ten" - so he's ok in my book :D

but he insists you have to draft one of them if you have the chance...

Mecca 02-12-2009 05:41 PM
One of my favorite parts is when he just starts ripping the QB's, after the 1st 3 guys all of the QB's are terrible.

So this idea of getting one late is pretty flawed.

Chiefnj2 02-13-2009 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5484967)
One of my favorite parts is when he just starts ripping the QB's, after the 1st 3 guys all of the QB's are terrible.

So this idea of getting one late is pretty flawed.
Because Scott Wright has great accuracy in his QB predictions?

Mecca 02-13-2009 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5487247)
Because Scott Wright has great accuracy in his QB predictions?
Oh yes lets say the guy with the best draft site on the web sucks now, go for it, whatever proves your opinion.

Mecca 02-14-2009 05:35 AM
Here's the newest one...some Chiefs talk in here.

http://nick8.surfernetwork.com/Media...Draft21209.mp3

CupidStunt 02-14-2009 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5489072)
Oh yes lets say the guy with the best draft site on the web sucks now, go for it, whatever proves your opinion.
LMAO LMAO LMAO

Does he pay you to come up with this shit? What's the going rate for e-sucking someone off?

Mecca 02-14-2009 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 5490421)
LMAO LMAO LMAO

Does he pay you to come up with this shit? What's the going rate for e-sucking someone off?
So you know more than Scott Wright?

People act like Mayock is god or something and should be respect Wright is damn good at this and people just go "oh well"

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-14-2009 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 5490421)
LMAO LMAO LMAO

Does he pay you to come up with this shit? What's the going rate for e-sucking someone off?
Who is this ****ing jackass?

Chiefnj2 02-14-2009 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5489072)
Oh yes lets say the guy with the best draft site on the web sucks now, go for it, whatever proves your opinion.
Has Scott Wright ever worked as a professional scout?

philfree 02-14-2009 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5490475)
Has Scott Wright ever worked as a professional scout?

I don't know but he does have the Chiefs taking Curry with the 3rd pick.


PhilFree:arrow:

CupidStunt 02-15-2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5490453)
Who is this ****ing jackass?
STFU. That fat twat can defend himself, I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5490475)
Has Scott Wright ever worked as a professional scout?
No. He's Mecca with enough money to host a website.

ChiefsCountry 02-15-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5490453)
Who is this ****ing jackass?
lj4mvp

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-15-2009 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5494514)
lj4mvp
It all makes sense now.

Mecca 02-15-2009 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5494514)
lj4mvp
That makes it more funny than it was before.

Also what is he a chick, his insults are very feminine veiled, "your fat"

Mecca 02-15-2009 08:24 PM
By the way saying me and Scott Wright are the same thing is a pretty flattering compliment.

Al Bundy 02-16-2009 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5490475)
Has Scott Wright ever worked as a professional scout?
Yes he has.. and his site is the best, period.

milkman 02-16-2009 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5495013)
By the way saying me and Scott Wright are the same thing is a pretty flattering compliment.
Don't get a big head there mec.

None of the rest of us are going to confuse you with Wright.

:)

Chiefnj2 02-16-2009 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 5497840)
Yes he has.. and his site is the best, period.
Which team and when?

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:28 PM
Why the hell are we having a debate about Scott Wright, he far and away has the best draft site with very good takes...scout/expert or whatever the draft is about opinion.

So now we have posters calling everyone a reerun.

Chiefnj2 02-16-2009 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5498403)
Why the hell are we having a debate about Scott Wright, he far and away has the best draft site with very good takes...scout/expert or whatever the draft is about opinion.

So now we have posters calling everyone a reerun.
Pick out your thong wedgie and take a deep breath. Who is calling Wright a reerun?

doomy3 02-16-2009 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5498403)
Why the hell are we having a debate about Scott Wright, he far and away has the best draft site with very good takes...scout/expert or whatever the draft is about opinion.

So now we have posters calling everyone a reerun.
This is a bit ironic.

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5498433)
Pick out your thong wedgie and take a deep breath. Who is calling Wright a reerun?
Check out post 38, that's intended as a complete dig at me and Wright knowing what he thinks of me.

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5498438)
This is a bit ironic.
Why are we debating him?

doomy3 02-16-2009 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5498448)
Why are we debating him?
No, I meant that it is ironic that you are upset because someone doesn't value an expert's opinion.

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5498455)
No, I meant that it is ironic that you are upset because someone doesn't value an expert's opinion.
That isn't what I mean, I don't see anyone doing this about other draft guys or making a reerun comment like

"yea hes just mecca with a site"

Guys earn their right to be ripped on Todd McShay has done that by saying numerous stupid things, Wright on the other hand has been pretty consistently good year after year.

doomy3 02-16-2009 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5498460)
That isn't what I mean, I don't see anyone doing this about other draft guys or making a reerun comment like

"yea hes just mecca with a site"

Guys earn their right to be ripped on Todd McShay has done that by saying numerous stupid things, Wright on the other hand has been pretty consistently good year after year.
Are you kidding? All of these guys get torn apart depending on if people agree with their boards or not.

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5498464)
Are you kidding? All of these guys get torn apart depending on if people agree with their boards or not.
Other than Mike Mayock who some think is a god.

Still no one has ever made a ridiculous comment like the one that was directed at Wright in this thread.

milkman 02-16-2009 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5498464)
Are you kidding? All of these guys get torn apart depending on if people agree with their boards or not.
All those other guys, with the exception of a couple, all have proven time and agains to be dumbasses.

I don't always agree with Wright, or Mayock, but they are guys that are consistently solid analysts.

Not always right, but they give outstanding info and don't just throw shit out there to see where it lands.

Chiefnj2 02-16-2009 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5498466)
Other than Mike Mayock who some think is a god.

Still no one has ever made a ridiculous comment like the one that was directed at Wright in this thread.
Give me a break with your faux-outrage. You're the guy who said Pioli will get no quarter if he makes a draft decision you disagree with because you are entitled to your opinion on the draft. Then when someone takes a shot at Wright you get all upset as if he is a golden god that cannot be questioned.

ChiefsCountry 02-16-2009 08:55 PM
Doomy has become like a combo of Jason and CrazyCoffey.

Mecca 02-16-2009 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5498474)
Give me a break with your faux-outrage. You're the guy who said Pioli will get no quarter if he makes a draft decision you disagree with because you are entitled to your opinion on the draft. Then when someone takes a shot at Wright you get all upset as if he is a golden god that cannot be questioned.
It's the level of what was said....

In the same post he called me a fat twat he said Wright is me with a website...you really think that's the same thing as saying you disagree with someone?

doomy3 02-16-2009 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5498478)
Doomy has become like a combo of Jason and CrazyCoffey.
Why is that? I haven't said anything in this thread. Just thought it was funny for Mecca to have a problem with someone who doesn't like one of the experts.


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