UFC 94 GSP vs BJ Penn
 

UFC 94 should be decent. GSP vs BJ Penn should be a very good fight. I will be rooting for Penn. I think if BJ can keep from getting gassed he could win. He's always had problems with his cardio at 170 though. Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva should be a great fight. I personally like the way Silva fights but Machida's manner and attitude so it will be a pick 'em for me.

I am so antsy in my pantsy for this fight.

I'll be embarassed to be a huge BJ Penn fan if he's not ready. I don't see him getting gassed, he went up for this fight. I hope he didn't do it by eating. I say he rips that cocky george st piece of shit's tongue out through his eyeball without flinching.

I'd like to see BJ win, but St. Pierre just seems to have no apparent weaknesses. I am not on the GSP bandwagon, but the man seems to be the acme of talent in MMA.

Thiago is a beast, and I also like his style; good fight but I'm picking Silva over Machida. On a different note- I'm kind of wondering if Rich Franklin is on the downside of his career. I know Henderson is a tough son of a b*tch, but he needed that win.

I'm pulling for BJ as well. I'm tired of GSP and his merry band of nuthuggers.

I'm also a big Machida fan. A lot of people think he's boring, but I find his style fascinating. He's so elusive, yet doesn't run from the fight. The way he picked Tito apart made me a fan.

Should be fun. BJ vs GSP is truly a "super fight".

GSP is a pretty boy. My bud is a huge fan of his, and I ask him if he also shops at 'International Male.' I could see GSP and Van Damme in Universal Soldier VI...

LMAO

Exactly.

BJ won't come in out of shape, I haven't seen him this fired up for a fight in a long time. I think GSP is the better athlete, but BJ is a true fighter, I hope BJ mops the floor with him. BJ's BJJ is top tier, and BJ's camp is ridiculous. Rush will come ready, but I hope BJ dominates him.

GSP has to be one of the classiest MMA fighters out there. The only reason you guys are looking for something bad to say against him is that you're worried and know he's gonna clean the mat with Penn.
The scary thing about GSP is that his defense is actually better than his offense. Penn will looking for that home-run hit during the whole fight until George takes him down and breaks his arm.

GSP in the 2nd.

I like them both, I think they own their weight classes. I think GSP is the shit at 170 and Penn owns lightweight. I think GSP will handle Penn.

LMAO LMAO LMAO. Are you new to MMA? GSP has always been a cocky bastard. Secondly did you watch the first fight between these two, no one looked for a KO shot, both are methodical fighters. Both are great fighters, BJ is one of the most talented fighters in the UFC, there is a reason they called him The Prodigy when he first started. GSP is good, no doubt about it, I will take my chances with BJ, I still love watching GSP get beat by Matt Serra ROFL. If BJ's mind is right, the only person who can stop him is himself. GSP is a great athlete and good fighter, he beats a lot of people on athleticisim alone. Penn is a great fighter and one of the most flexible and capable BJJ guys in the World. The only problems Penn has ever had is motivation, and he wants to kill GSP in this fight. His submissions rival fedor's IMO. He's rolled with Karo Parisyan, who is top tier also. I'm excited for this fight. Penn reminds me of Fedor, you would never guess by looking at them that they would be the terror's that they are, but looks can be decieving.

I think GSP wins the fight. Have you seen his training partners for the fightr? Good lord! We all know Penn really won the first fight, but GSP realizes that, too. He is way more motivated and Penns downfall has always been his preperation and motivation. I say GSP takes the fight, but I would NEVER count out Penn. I just hope it goes the distance.....This is such an incredible match up.

Right. BJ Penn lost against GSP in a bullshit decision and Georgie boy was admitted to the hospital that night. BJ didn't even have a scratch. BJ dominated him standing up and thats not even BJ's favorite thing to do.

I'm so worried.

What's with all the GSP hate? And to you kcchiefsfanGoLJ **** you. And **** Matt Serra ( He is a piece of shit). I like both of these fighters.

I don't hate GSP, don't be a clown. GSP did train with Rashad Evans, FTR GSP's camp can't touch the talent at BJ's camp. I don't like Matt Serra at all, but it was still funny to see a scrub take the belt from your boyfriend.

What? Someone who knows MMA making a solid point, wow outside Raybec, KcMizzou and a few others there's not many of us, you made a good point, Congratulations. I run a very tight crew of people admitted, but you're in. I expect you're $25 dues to be in by monday :).

probably the rump ranger way GSP talks

LMAO, rep to you good sir.

Did you happen to see Faber make such quick work of Jens? It was freakin embarrassing, I'm not a Faber fan, but he is double tough. Pulver needs to retire I am afraid.

Jens held tough the first fight, and he really showed his heart, but I fear he is going down the road of one of my favorite fighters, Matt Hughes. Not everyone is Randy C, and can beat someone for a title at 44.

I have an irrational hatred of Vinnie Siragusa too.

I've disliked GSP after he beat BJ and was so cocky about the fight.
But don't get me wrong. Everytime I hear BJ says "I'm going to kill him" I want to scream.

I'm not just sexual innuendos and fluff.

Lets wrestle. If I can get you to tap, you owe me.

Yah. But they were only on the mat what?... like 4 or 5 times? Not used to that from Faber.

BJ won the first round and gassed. Penn did inflict the most damage but I think GSP edged him in the final two rounds. BJ should have won but he didn't prepare enough. I think this is going to be a good fight. The only weakness I see in either of their game is Penn's conditioning.

For the guy that said GSP was just an athlete and not a fighter....you must have watched the fight preview special Spike ran the other night. GSP is more than an athlete, the guy can fight.

Yeah I like Hughes a lot too, I hope he can make a comeback from his knee injury. I just hope he beats Serra's shit talking ass in a couple of months.

Hughes talks a lot of crap also.

Everyone knows about BJ's conditioning problems but nobody talks about the fact that GSP is a freakin head case! You never know which guy your getting. He lets any outside the ring issues take his focus. He reminds me of the 170 pound version of Vitor Belfort. Sometimes he looks unbeatable, sometimes he looks average.

Yeah, but he throws a lot of stuff about Jesus in there so that makes it ok. j/k

I hope your right. I fricking hate Matt Serra.

If you have ever seen Matt Serra vs Shonie Carter I it's hilarious. Serra goes down like a cheerleader on prom night.

I saw that during the Ultimate fighter show. It was awesome. If only he could have done it a second time. Serra needs to shut his mouth. I hope Hughes ****s him up.

I compared the two, and BJ is a pure fighter, GSP is a pure athlete who fights in MMA. I have said and will say again, I think GSP is very good, I think BJ is better. No I haven't watched a fight preview on Spike for this fight. Don't try and put words in my mouth.

I didn't try to put words in your mouth.:shrug: A guy in Penn's camp said the exact same thing so I thought you must have watched it. I don't agree with your (or his) assessment of GSP but it's just a matter of opinion.

Sure, I'd concede that St. Pierre probably has the edge in conditioning, and can outlast Penn in the gym. He looks more like a fighter.

But we have all seen fighters that do not have the six pack abs, traps, lats, and waxed their bodies to look like A&F models destroy dudes that are physical specimens (see Heath Herring v. Cheick Kongo, or Tim Sylvia v. Andrei Orlovsky).

BJ Penn is a tough son of a bitch, and he doesn't get intimidated; GSP's breakdance moves and nut-hugging spandex don't mean sh*t to him. Having said that, I still think GSP wins the fight by decision-- and that is hard to write.

I agree. There are many guys that look like they are good fighters and are not. My point is that GSP is not one of those guys. He may look like an athlete but he is definitely a fighter.

with a chin that sure is suspect

also i havent seen the show but on another site they were laughing about penn's comment to gsp's trainer to after the fight go home, take off your shoes, lay down on the bed, take 20-30 minutes and GO **** YOURSELFROFL

Anyone know when Brock and Mir will fight?

They were trying to set it up for May the last I heard, but nothing is signed yet.

St. Pierre is favored and for good reason.

http://mmafighting.com/news/2009/01/...2-betting-odds

GOOD REASON being that he fights at that weight all the time?

This is going to be a brutal fight.

BJ's just to talented... GSP is just so athletic and well rounded.

In the end? I'm going to say same old BJ Penn. He'll come out strong but will fade as the match goes.

In the end, GSP is bigger, stronger & more athletic. So I'm saying GSP in round 2 or 3.

I cant wait for that fight. Brock's a lot better than he was the first time they fought. Though Mir's a submission specialist. Brock just needs to sit on him and ground n pound.

Mir's game is evolving. He is one of the few ground/submission specialists who have added a truly dangerous standup game to compliment his skills. Brock is big and super powerful. I think if Mir can stay on his feet he can win. If he can keep Brock from passing his guard he could also win. Good fight either way.

if rumors are true about affliction folding maybe we will see fedor v brock sooner rather than later. i coulod actually see the ufc putting fedor against brock ahead of brock v mir

Yep. Mir kind of shot himself in the foot with all his trash talk. If I was Lesnar I would try to break his face. I think the best heavyweight Bar none is still Fedor, he would destroy either one of them.

Fedor is going to bring Affliction to it's knees. They can't afford to be dishing out huge percentages of their income on fighter salaries. They gave him so much money that he is the only "big name" they can afford. I would love to see someone compete with the UFC on a regular basis but it probably isn't going to happen any time soon.

I don't know, Fedor has said this is his last contract (rumor), he said a while ago that he has nothing left to prove to anyone. I think the most clamored about fight was Fedor vs The natural, but it never happened. I don't see how they could promote Fedor vs Lesnar anymore than they pimped Fedor and Randy's "dream fight".

Dana will never pay Fedor what he wants IMO. I think he still feels the sting of giving Cro-Cop a bunch of cash.

The only reason why Fedor is still fighting is because he is making a disgusting amount of money. Fedor is in that point of his career where no one is going to beat him, and he wants to get paid a lot to fight. He doesn't care about the fame, he isn't going to fight if it isn't going to thicken his wallet. Dana is a cheap bastard, at least Wandy has been competitive in his fights, unlike Cro Cop. Once again good points raybec.

see my first post.

fedor's contract is to M-1 global, not affliction. M-1 subcontracts him out, and to the "nothing left to prove point" then why did he insist that M-1 put a clause in his contract that M-1 has to offer the current ufc champ a couple of million dollars OVER his TOTAL ufc contract for the one fight

Here is my take on GSP vs. Penn: it's about as even a matchup you get in MMA. I feel that if they fought 10 times it would probably be 5-5 or 6-4. I guess for my money GSP will be the favorite because of him being a more natural 170lb'er and he has made great strides in his skills since the last time these two fought. Benn is a world class jits guy but GSP's skills are really under-rated. Penn showed in his last fight that he can stay standing up and still win with some excellent boxing type skills but I would give the edge standing up to GSP. There is NO WAY this fight goes the distance in my opinion. None. I'm a GSP fan as well as a Penn fan but I favor GSP so the perfect scenario for me is for GSP to submit Penn, the jiu-jistu master.

I just want people to stop wearing Affliction shirts that are two sizes too small. Although, it will be harder to spot overcompensating douchebags once they are gone.

I will admit that I bought one of those shirts a couple of years ago but I will also say this in my defense: I DID buy the correct size but they make them babies 2 sizes too small on PURPOSE! I never wore mine because is DIDNT FIT!

I would love to see Fedor and Brock fight. it will happen one day, bank on it.

White and Trump may have to make some sort of deal......but that would be a fight for the ages.

That would be a huge upset, BJ is one of the best jits guys in the country. I can't see him getting submitted, pounded out maybe, but not submitted.

Stacked card, can't wait.

I think the key factor in the main event will be BJ's stamina...I can see this fight easily going 4 or all 5 rounds. Will he gas? Remains to be seen.

Either way, the fight is going to be amazing.

I know, THAT is why it would be too cool.

No, good reason being that he is better.

I can see both sides to this argument and it will only be settled in the ring. GSP is favored because he is the current champ, is at his NORMAL weight and vegas KNOWS everyone will be betting on him.

For the record I said Randy would beat Lesnar and Nog would beat Mir and Forrest would beat Rashad so I'm thinking of giving up on the predicting and just rooting for who I like.

GSP's skills are underrated? That's an awfully strange thing to say about a guy who routinely makes peoples "best lb for lb fighters" lists. In fact my top 4 looks like this:

1: Fedor
2: Anderson Silva
3: BJ Penn
4: GSP

and depending on the day of the week the order of that list changes but it's still the same 4 fighters.

Okay so given that BJ and GSP are both on the top 4 best lb for lb the smart pick in this heads up match is GSP because he's bigger.

Yes, until RECENTLY. Before he beat Hughes his wrestling was called into question. He trained with some of the best in the world and sharpened his skills and beat Hughes at his own game and then some. GSP is not considered a jits-guy really, he is not a blackbelt like Penn yet he is almost impossible to pin/submit. YET, like you said, he is considered OVERALL one the best pound for pound fighters in the world. You tell me. Once he has Penn tapping out for mercy there will be NO MORE doubting his skills.

Well when he first beat Hughes it was quite awhile ago. I just really don't think very many people are underrating GSPs skill. I think the consensus is that he's at the top of the game in all aspects and generally thought of as one of the most well rounded fighters in mma.

Funny that is one of the only times I had picked all the fights right.

GSP is a JJ black belt...he got it not too long ago.

I wanna how his guard would be with a world class JJ guy like Penn on top...that would be interesting IMO.

Yeah, GSP is an amazing fighter.. Penn is cool to, but I just want to see an amazing bloodbrawl and GSP knocking him out in the second or third..

It sure should be fun to watch.

Yep, between this and the Super Bowl, it's gonna be a hell of a sports weekend.

For sure. I was at the Raptors/Bucks game last night (7th row - amazing seats), UFC tonight with all the boys then start again mid afternoon Sunday for the Superbowl. I think I'll have to call in sick Monday.

GSP is hard to like. It doesn't help that he wears those gay shorts.

But the other problem is he's often boring. He reminds me of the boxer Lennox Lewis. He does everything right, and systematically tears down his opponent, but it's no fun watching 12 rounds of jabs to a win by decision.

GSP's defense is so good that he rarely gets into interesting spots on the ground, and his stand-up is technically solid, but lacks much entertainment value. He doesn't take risks or make many mistakes, and the end result is a big yawn.

I won't knock the guy's ability, but he lacks entertainment value. Personally I hope Penn knock him stiff, but odds are it will be another snoozer like the first.

You lost all credibility with me with this statement. Did you not see GSP destroy Matt Serra?? What about his last fight? What about the utter humiliation of Matt Hughes? Your clueless.

It's almost fight time. This is a very good card.

I agree. GSP is far from a boring fighter. He has knocked out several fighters.

Diaz vs. Guida results

He IS from Queerbec.

again, he's a frog. Nuf said:rolleyes:

But he's a hell of a fighter. Penn is in for a brawl

Coming up next:

Parisyan vs. Kim

Results of the Kim vs Parisyan fight.

Wow, Jon Jones is SICK.

Never seen dude fight, thoroughly impressed. He does some wild and crazy stuff, it's cool to watch though.

Bonnar vs. Jones