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Tertullian 02-02-2009 12:17 PM

Haley expected to interview with the Chiefs
 
The Chiefs are expected to formally interview Cardinals OC Todd Haley about their head-coaching vacancy this week.
Haley is so widely expected to get the job that multiple minority candidates have turned down interview offers, which GM Scott Pioli will still need to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Pioli should be able to come up with a minority coach from somewhere, but it won't be someone who takes the interview seriously. Feb. 2 - 12:50 pm et

From: Rotoworld.

Jilly 02-02-2009 12:19 PM

I dn't know who you are, but love your username

blueballs 02-02-2009 12:28 PM

Was there alot of minority canidates walking around the Super Bowl
bragging they turned down a KC HC interview
what's Romo's minority status -villiage idiot-roid rage survivor

Mr. Flopnuts 02-02-2009 12:31 PM

If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

DeezNutz 02-02-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tertullian (Post 5450907)
Pioli should be able to come up with a minority coach from somewhere, but it won't be someone who takes the interview seriously.

Yeah, because Mike Tomlin indicates that a give-a-shit attitude would be the best approach.

blueballs 02-02-2009 12:38 PM

Where's Norm Chow

R&GHomer 02-02-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5450988)
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach! :rolleyes:

blueballs 02-02-2009 12:42 PM

Maybe they've already hired a minority canidate
a rumor yet to run amuck on the airwaves
connects the dots as well as any other rumor

kysirsoze 02-02-2009 12:43 PM

At least if they've made an effort to satisfy the Rooney Rule, it won't look so bad if they have to pay the fine for breaking it. I think the money's not as much of an issue as the bad press.

bowener 02-02-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5451074)
At least if they've made an effort to satisfy the Rooney Rule, it won't look so bad if they have to pay the fine for breaking it. I think the money's not as much of an issue as the bad press.

Agreed. And maybe the press generated from our possible situation is what we need to get this Rooney rule fixed or amended. It has its flaws, but sadly it is based in a reality that showed it was necessary, and looking at the NCAA, is still necessary.

ChiefRon 02-02-2009 12:50 PM

Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.

DaWolf 02-02-2009 12:53 PM

Well, that's the excuse Detroit used when they hired Mooch, and they still got lambasted for it.

Wouldn't it be ironic if an organization that has now supposedly become "leak free" actually couldn't get a minority interview because the biggest leak had gotten out? Should be interesting to see how this is actually playing out behind the scenes. Either Pioli has shrewdly already satisfied this requirement or will satisfy the requirement, or this is a major slip-up by him as a first time GM, or there's something in the rules that the Chiefs have complied with that we don't know yet...

CupidStunt 02-02-2009 12:53 PM

I've seen nothing credible to suggest a single minority candidate has ACTUALLY declined to interview.

Every single word that comes out about our HC search is speculation.

Micjones 02-02-2009 12:53 PM

I find it very hard to believe that Pioli won't play this by the book.
I bet he's interviewed someone already.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-02-2009 01:04 PM

James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

bkkcoh 02-02-2009 01:08 PM

They kept the GM search under wraps very well, why would the head coach search be the same way?

pr_capone 02-02-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451186)
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

ROFL

I'm guessing that Herm interviewed to keep his job and that satisfies the Rooney Rule. I highly doubt Pioli is going to gaff this right off the bat.

And if he does, and we have to pay 200k for the coach we want. Then so be it. At least we aren't giving up draft picks again.

oaklandhater 02-02-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451186)
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.

NY CHIEF 02-02-2009 01:13 PM

What about obama........he picked the right team to win the super bowl ROFL

missinDThomas 02-02-2009 01:14 PM

HALEY’S IMMEDIATE PLANS: GOING TO PRO BOWL
Posted by Aaron Wilson on February 2, 2009, 1:21 p.m.
The reported frontrunner to become the Kansas City Chiefs’ successor to fired coach Herm Edwards has no immediate plans to sit down with Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli, according to the Kansas City Star.

Unless Todd Haley is taking a detour to Kansas City on his way to Hawaii, site of the Pro Bowl, or Pioli is going to fly out to the land of luaus to meet with the Arizona Cardinals’ offensive coordinator, then the Chiefs’ head coaching search appears to still be in a holding pattern.

Following the Cardinals’ Super Bowl loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Haley said he plans to attend the Pro Bowl this week as a guest of quarterback Kurt Warner and wide receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

“I have no plans,” Haley told the Star when asked if he was going to interview in Kansas City this week. “The quarterback and receivers have invited a bunch of us to go to the Pro Bowl. That’s what I’m thinking about. It might take my mind off of this right now.”

Haley added that he hasn’t spoken to Pioli, a former colleague with the New York Jets back in the 1990s.

“As I’ve said for the last two weeks, my focus has been on this game, which is the biggest game I’ve ever been involved in,” Haley said. “That is what I have told my agent, to not talk to anybody, and that’s what I’ve done.”

Of course, since Pioli has already demonstrated that he’s more than willing to tell friends and former teachers to not discuss personal anecdotes about himself with nosy reporters, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Chiefs’ personnel boss might have already instructed Haley to keep his mouth shut about Chiefs business.

Or, should we say, none of your business.

pr_capone 02-02-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5451218)
WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.

Its tongue in cheek...

anyhow, hogfarmer is black so its ok for him to say that.

:)

BTW, is MLK untouchable that people can't joke at his expense?


What about Rosa Parks?

Malcom X?

Is it just the black people who were famous for the civil rights movement that are untouchable or can we not laugh about Thomas Jefferson and his oddities because he was important too?

Sure-Oz 02-02-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451186)
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

:doh!:

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-02-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5451218)
WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.


Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-02-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5451231)
Its tongue in cheek...

anyhow, hogfarmer is black so its ok for him to say that.

:)

That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

pr_capone 02-02-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451245)
That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

oh shit... sorry :doh!:

Chiefs Pantalones 02-02-2009 01:20 PM

Why the **** do they even have this Rooney rule? If he's qualified, he'll get the job, black or white or green or whatever color they are. Who gives a shit about color, this isn't 1950 anymore, give me a ****ing break.

Sure-Oz 02-02-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451245)
That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

http://www.geocities.com/northernvir...appelle_m4.jpg

Dinny Bossa Nova 02-02-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5451122)
Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.



I couldn't agree with you more, Ron.

Dinny

Sully 02-02-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5451213)
ROFL

I'm guessing that Herm interviewed to keep his job and that satisfies the Rooney Rule. I highly doubt Pioli is going to gaff this right off the bat.

And if he does, and we have to pay 200k for the coach we want. Then so be it. At least we aren't giving up draft picks again.

According to Schefter several weeks ago, this does not satisfy the rule.

Red Dawg 02-02-2009 01:41 PM

We just had a "minority" coach and that should make us exempt from having to interview one.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451242)
Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

But skin color doesn't factor as high when you're discussing an absolute moron.:evil:

oaklandhater 02-02-2009 01:52 PM

I just dont think its right to make fun of some on who was assassinated

JFK
MLK

Make fun of GWB all you want I dont care at all....

chiefscafan 02-02-2009 02:19 PM

We had a black coach the last three years so the NFL can kiss my butt on the Rooney rule.

Reaper16 02-02-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5451258)

Flawless Victory

SPATCH 02-02-2009 02:26 PM

i keep getting this bad feeling that haley is a fraud..

Old Dog 02-02-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5451281)
According to Schefter several weeks ago, this does not satisfy the rule.

My question is does it not count because Herm was the incumbent HC or is it because he isn't qualified to be a HC???

tburg 02-02-2009 02:45 PM

our HR guy is African American...I am sure he would interview for the gig

Hoover 02-02-2009 02:55 PM

Maybe that dumb ****ing interview with Obama before the SB counted?

pr_capone 02-02-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5451392)
I just dont think its right to make fun of some on who was assassinated

JFK
MLK

Make fun of GWB all you want I dont care at all....

So I am guessing you would find the following distasteful then:

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/h...nl43rra4e9.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...erKingJoke.jpg

picasso 02-02-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5451242)
Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

pr_capone 02-02-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picasso (Post 5452173)
Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

And MLK was an adulterer and was being watched by the FBI because of ties to communistic organizations.

MLK was no prince... or genious as he was busted plagiarizing more than once.

TEX 02-02-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5450988)
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Absolutely

"Bob" Dobbs 02-02-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5451385)
But skin color doesn't factor as high when you're discussing an absolute moron.:evil:

Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picasso (Post 5452173)
Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5452179)
And MLK was an adulterer and was being watched by the FBI because of ties to communistic organizations.

MLK was no prince... or genious as he was busted plagiarizing more than once.

And he was assassinated by Cigarette Smoking Man from a street drain!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5452255)
Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

LMAO Nice.

petegz28 02-02-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5451122)
Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.

According to KK, several minorities have turned down interviews figuring Haley was the man. So the Rooney Rule has been sasified!

Uncle_Ted 02-02-2009 07:41 PM

Pioli has no doubt already brow-beat the NFL into repealing the Rooney Rule -- he just hasn't given them permission to tell anyone yet.

TinyEvel 02-02-2009 07:43 PM

Can we count Herm's exit interview?

chop 02-02-2009 07:51 PM

I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

DaFace 02-02-2009 08:01 PM

I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

ILChief 02-02-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 5452482)
I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

I agree, the rule is outlived its usefulness. 2 of the last 3 super bowl winning coaches have been minorities plus the runner up year before last. The barrier has been broken.

jettio 02-02-2009 08:53 PM

I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

Cormac 02-02-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 5451045)
No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach! :rolleyes:

Hey, we've been doing it for the last few years......

Cormac 02-02-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5452255)
Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

ROFL

Mark M 02-02-2009 09:47 PM

I'm reading all of this (the MLK "I Have A Dreamsicle" pic was ****ing hysterical - rep to pr_capone), and ...

How long do you all think it's going to take us to get used to the lockdown at One Arrowhead Drive?

Because it's driving me nuts, and I know it's driving a lot of you nuts. I mean, how we can do mock drafts without knowing who the coach will be next year? I need to know what, exactly, to yell at Mel Kiper (other than STFU).

Even worse, the media keep speculating more than an over-eager mid-1990s hedge fund manager on a three-day coke binge. And having about as much success.

If something doesn't change, Jack Harry won't have any credibility left.

Oh, wait ...

MM
~~ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-02-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 5452732)
I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

I can be as much of a pill as anyone, but it's nice now and again to hear a valid take on something besides drafting and Quarterbacks.

Mucho REP.:clap:

whoman69 02-02-2009 10:29 PM

If they're citing the Chiefs interest in Haley as a reason to turn down the Chiefs, I'd say its pretty far from a slam dunk that they hire him as much as it was for the Lions when they went after Mariucchi. If there is now an exemption for such an event, the the Lion's situation had pretty much everything to do with it. If such an exemption exists it would protect organizations that do practice racist policies. That said, the time for the Rooney rule has passed.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5452507)
I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

This.

MMXcalibur 02-02-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5450988)
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Agreed.

I'm sick of this shit. I understand why the Rooney rule was implemented, but goddamn...just hire who's best fit for the job.

....alright, forget it, I'm done. I don't want to come off as sounding racist.


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