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"Excited, he's (Haley) got some good qualities for a coach."

"Watched the Cardinals alot, impressed, looking forward to him bringing his scheme to KC."

"It's a fun offense: you can run the spread,I-formation, play action and go deep."

THinks KC's receivers will thrive with Haley, likes the talent at WR.

"It's great to have an offensive minded coach like Brad CHildress in MN."

Would like to see Gailey stay

"THey might clash in some ways, but i'd like to see him run the offense this year."

"I feel like right now i'm the QB for the CHiefs until i'm told otherwise."

"I'd hate to see TG go, having him here wil help us win."

"I'll try to caontact Tony after the Pro-Bowl. In this system, the TE will get the ball."

On LJ:
"As a player you always want to be happy, obviously he doesn't want to be here, that's his perogative. I would hope none of the teammates would hold a grudge for what he said if he does come back. He's really good when he wants to be."

Arizona did run alot of plays out of the gun, so I don't know why people would think that Thigpen couldn't play in that offense. That said I am not on his bandwagon for starting next year as I'd like Sanchez, but I'm sure Thigpen can work on improving from under center in the offseason and can at least be a quality backup.

Sounds like Thigpen thinks LJ is a prick.

he said LJ is a good player when he wants to be, pretty unstoppable, when he brings that to the table.

Thiggy, you'll get a shot at being the starter, but thinking you are annointed the starter by default is absurd. EARN IT.

Fixed your post.

Sorry, my bad.

:clap:R WE EXCITED?
I think I am...I have to see how he 'motivates'...was he a great offensive coordinator or did he just have great talent to work with?

Thigpen acting like he is in Pioli and Haley's plans is funny.

I really wish one of the players would just come out and say "Larry's a prick, we all hate him, I hope he ends up in Saskatchewan."

Thiggy will have competition no doubt. LJ wants out, hope we can get something for him.

If the players Union didn't exist it might happen.

Not quite as funny as you thinking you know more about the situation.

I know several Vikings fans and they all hate Childress. They think his offense is much too vanilla, kind of like what we had as an offense before they opened it up.

Just go away, Thigpen and Gailey. Please. Just go away.

Thigpen has done nothing to deserve this imo

LOL. Well Thiggy can do one of those things.

All Thigpen has done is improve and make plays...the guy had none of the luxuries Croyle has. He moves around and makes plays happen, distributes the ball. Doing all of this with an offense that completely changed and no pre season to prepare.

Sometimes fans on here choose strange players to shit on. I hope he keeps getting better and gets a chance to good things for this team.

truth

He's coached for the Jets, Bears, Pats, Cowboys and Cardinals, just to name some off the top of my head.

and to think these same people say a rookie qb should have time to develop, yet thigpen is done after one yearROFL

I know, not even a year.

Uh ... he can't drop back, Mr. JASONSAUTO. That's kinda serious, don't you think?

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I like Thigpen, and I think he'll make a great backup for this team.

Thigpen's QB rating by quarter...

1st- 100
2nd- 80
3rd- 60
4th- 50

He's not a starting QB, he didn't improve as the game went on. No thanks. The pistol was a cute experiment though.

I agree... the offense was scoring enough points it was the defense that let us down.

If he finds a way to get the ball to our good players and move the chains I don't give a shit if he lines up behind the WR.

He makes things happen...sometimes out of nothing. The whole time he has done it with a suspect running game.

And what makes everyone so sure he has hit his ceiling. The guy hasn't gone through a training camp as a player that isn't an afterthought. An off season of training and work with the coaches focusing on him and his offense working with him is a big deal.

Why can't he get better?

Why could Croyle get time to improve but Thigpen can't?

link?


he played under center in 2008 some

Haley wants an accurate QB similar to Warner to run his offense, he doesn't want a piece of shit QB with a mediocre completion % whose overall performance gets worse by the quarter.

It sounds like to me he IS a starting QB...just not a finishing one.

Because Croyle was a draft pick and Thiggy was some other teams scraps.

I'm not saying I agree with it but that's what it boils down to in the NFL.

What would you people like him to say?

"I concede that I am probably going to be a lifetime backup, so I will just lay down and let someone else be the starter."

I like the fact that he wants to be the starter and that he is showing some confidence that he can do it.

I'm sure he can, Mr. |Zach|. Certainly. I have nothing against the guy from that perspective. In fact, I'm impressed by what he was able to do under the circumstances last year. He's the gutsiest skeleton banger I know.

Nonetheless, he needs a ton of work on some basic quarterbacking fundamentals. Based on where he's starting from, don't you think that the developmental time might be best used working with someone who is at least comfortable in a pro offense? That's where I'm coming from.

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It is amazing that the garbage heap of the fanbase still clings to the idea that Thigpen can be an NFL-caliber QB.

i don't know which is more sad

you responding to yourself because nobody wants to talk to you or you judging a young QB by his first year getting any real playing time in the NFL.


The Chiefs REALLY shouldn't draft a QB with people like you around.

It sounds more so like that what it boils down to with message board experts not the NFL. Kurt Warner almost won his second Superbowl last week.

I think it is amazing someone that has done literally nothing but bitch about this team calls other people the garbage heap of the fanbase.

Okay. I overstated that a little. But, I was carried away.

The point is that Gailey had to come up with a completely different offense in order to get something out of Thiggy. I think we can all agree that the guy wasn't comfortable in a pro offense.

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Exhibit A of the garbage heap of the Chiefs fanbase. Elements such as yourself are satisifed with Thigpen/Croyle/Blundin caliber QBs.

But the reason he didn't is because he was playing against a QB who was drafted in the first round!

[/All the Gurus on here]

Warner has A LOT more going for him than Thiggy.

This can't be. He wasn't a high round draft pick. /message board experts

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You are such a ****ing bitch.

Just my opinion, but i would guess that Thigpen has to know this.
Surely he knows he is not going to be handed anything.

But, maybe not.

I don't think anyone is advocating his immediate release. However, do you really want to put all of your eggs into the Tyler Thigpen basket?

I'm pretty sure they'll be looking to upgrade the QB position, no matter what we think of Thigpen.

*cough*

Thigpen hasn't even gone through a single season.

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Hip, hip!

I definitely hope we do. But to knock anything Thigpen has said in any of his interviews this offseason is absurd. He SHOULD be treating this offseason as if he is the starting QB.

He earned it last season

He earned a place on the team, not a starting job.

If another QB comes in and plays better than him then fine...I want the Chiefs to be better. But dismissing what Thigpen has done on the field sounds ridiculous.

The guy made chicken salad from chicken shit.

Every other QB gets time to develop and gets a mile long list of excuses from the fanbase for playing poorly but the guy who goes out and actually moves the chains and score points can't improve at all and should be thrown aside.

Look. Thiggy might win the position or he might not. At least we might have a head coach and a GM and an OC who can properly evaluate our quarterback situation. At this point, we don't even know what kind of offensive scheme we'll be running.

Nevertheless, if they call Thiggy's number, I'll be behind him 100%. We'll see.

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really?

Sure. I hope so. I always want us to be looking at getting better. But I don't get the total bashing of Thigpen. He's done good things. He deserves his shot to compete for the job. Not saying he's the end all be all, but I like what he showed us last season.

Jesus, this is like Croyle part 2.

There's much truthiness in this dad gummed post.

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Undeniable. This is fact. He has room to improve, but I think has potential. How much I don't know. This argument that he can't play under center is silly too. He was getting his azz kicked last year running for his life. THAT is why we switched to the pistol offense. It was the best way to give him some room and time to throw the ball. I suspect with better line play he can run the offense from any formation.

Wrong, I complained about Herm destroying the franchise which he did. Now that he is gone I'm very happy with direction the Chiefs are heading in, especially with an offensive-minded coach in Todd Haley.

My only complaint is why the garbage element of the fanbase, such as yourself want to cling to the pipedream that Herm's pet projects such as Thigpen can magically become NFL-caliber players.

The fact Thigpen got worse by quarter, as teams adjusted to him should be an indicator to even someone as dense as you that with a season worth of film on Thigpen, opposing teams will have no problem exposing Thigpen to be an NFL Europe caliber QB next season.

Tyler Thigpen is next season's Derek Anderson.

Except the player we are talking about has done something.

Bring back Al Saunders.

**** potential....this guy has ACTUALLY DONE IT and is still young and can improve. He started 1\2 a season. While some here were stroking it to mock drafts Thigpen was making an offense that was horrible get in the endzone without the luxury of a good running game.

Thigpen has earned the right to compete. Whether he gets the starting nod or not is up to the staff. ANYONE who says he hasn't earned the right to compete is completely shortsighted. If we draft a QB and the rook does a better job than Thiggy fine. Put the best guy on the field. If Thiggy did start instead of a drafted QB than I know the "draft gurus" on here would immediately throw the new staff under the bus. The point is keep an open mind and trust the new staff that they'll make the right decision for who to start. This isn't the CeePee era anymore. We haven't been given any reason to not trust the new staff yet.

Based on what? Based on the fact he led the Chiefs to ONE win as a starter? Based on the fact he completely melted down on that final drive against the Dolphins with the opportunity to tie the game? Based on the fact that Thigpen, along with the rest of Herm's team decided not to show up for the final game at Cincy?

Yup.

I don't know of Thiggy is the QBOTF, but he sure as hell deserves a chance at it.

Yes, because Warner was considered an accurate QB at Thigpen's age and experience level, douchebag.

According to your logic, Thigpen should not be written off until he's at least 37, right?

Again, why can't Thigpen improve.

Shouldn't the king of self loathing message board experts have a good answer for this. Isn't there some kind of universal rule about backing the hurricanes and calling other people trash? Seems odd.

How do you know that he can't? Given that the previous two QBs who ran under center were destroyed within the first 5 games because the offensive line protection was so bad, why do people think Thigpen or ANY QB (even a QB as tough to bring down as Big Ben) would have any fighting chance taking snaps under center? The reason he couldn't run plays under center is that the pass protection was so bad that as soon as the ball was snapped, there were two defenders already in his face.

What has Thigpen done? Win one game as a starter? Melt down in the final drive against the Dolphins? Not show up against Cincy? Complete barely 55% of his passes?

Your standard for determining that Thigpen is a good QB apparently is comparing him to the likes of Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard. Even a blowhard such as yourself would look like a halfway decent QB compared to those two pieces of garbage.

He earned it.........played better than Eli Manning did a year ago. Don't understand the kinda expectations some people have on this board. I really dont.

Thigpen is a less accurate jake plummer

Football is a team game. the defense clearly lost many games for us last season, not having anything to do with thigpen.

We of all fans should know this when DV and AS ran the show.

Put points on the board. Do you want Thigpen to play defense as well?

By my quick count 20+ points 7 out of the 12 games he played in.

3 of them 30+ points.

That is putting your team in a position to win games.

So the Giants should have given up on Eli Manning when the Giants only one 1 out of his first 7 games? It's not about Thigpen being good or bad. It's not about resting your future on him--the Chiefs need to bring in another QB regardless of what we think of Thigpen. It's about people like you that are convinced that a QB only deserves a half season to improve.

No it is people like him that use this team and this place as a vehicle to listen to themselves bitch. It is easy to be a hindsight is 20\20 internet message board sports fan. Ask DeBerg.

I agree. R2P2

He deserves a chance at it, with some serious competition brought in.

every player on the team should have serious competition for a starting spot.