First Round Pick
 

There are only four players worth the third pick in the draft.

1. Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
   Andre Smith OT Alabama
   Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
   Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

I think Detroit takes Stafford and St Louis takes Smith. So that leaves us Crabtree and Curry. I think there will be a big debate about who to take, but I believe we take Curry. There is alot of talk of Michael Johson the DE from Georgia Tech dropping to the beginning of the second round if this happens I think we would take him.

Any thoughts?

Take that list, subtract Curry and Crabtree add Sanchez and that leaves us Sanchez.

For the record I really can see the Lions passing on a QB #1 overall and drafting Freeman with either the 2nd pick or with their second 1st round pick where ever he grades at the time. The Lions OC was with Culpepper in Minnesota and was very productive with him, hell his best year was the year Moss was out half the year. Freeman is comparable to him.

Aaron Curry is not worth the 3rd pick.

i can too...and am praying for it..that gives us Stafford

I think Curry is a reach at #3...LB's rarely get picked in the top 3, and if they are they better be comparable to Lawrence Taylor or Derrick Thomas and Curry is not. He's not a great pass rusher, great LB but not worth a top 3 pick IMO.

We drafted Albert in the first round last year and he did a great job at LT, so we don't need a left tackle.

Our only other option is Crabtree and while it can be justified I guess, it is not a pressing need.

Quarterback is a big need though and if the Chiefs draft one of them, I think they groom him and let him sit for the year. Haley and Pioli will know better than to throw him out there to the wolves right away. Both Sanchez and Stafford are excellent prospects in my eyes. They will likely bring in a FA to compete with Thigpen for the starting job next year. With Stafford gone by our pick, I just don't think you can pass on a talent like Sanchez. He has all the tools and talent to succeed in this league. This might be our only shot to get a franchise QB in the next few years. It's worth the risk IMO. I just don't see a better situation at this point. We are in perfect position to take a potential franchise QB and we need to pull the trigger.

Curry is a reach at 3, but so is anything other than a QB or LT. It's just another reason we need to take a quarterback. There isn't value for anything else other than LT, which we don't need.

And when people say we should draft Crabtree at 3, why? Because 2 stud WR's worked for Arizona? No, it didn't work for them until they got consistent quarterback play from Warner. Detroit had 2 studs with Williams and Johnson, but had no QB...didn't work out for them. It will be the same thing for us...WE HAVE NO QB!

We need a QB and this is our chance, I don't get why every Chiefs fan except the people on this board are scared to take a QB. It's so damn obvious that we need one.

The Chiefs fan base seems particularly afraid of drafting QBs high. Which is odd, I can almost understand why Lions fans are afraid of drafting a quarterback after Harrington. I think it's still stupid, but I can at least see the reason why. But the Chiefs haven't been burned by taking a quarterback high in the draft since 19****ing83. And even then the problem wasn't taking a QB, it was taking the wrong one. I guess it's Carl's fault.

This

I personally think there's 3 players the Chiefs can justify taking 3rd..

Stafford, Sanchez and Malcolm Jenkins, that's it.

Stafford, Oher, Sanchez and Monroe without taking into consideration who is picking third. Those are the top 4 on my board.

Well we have our ACC homer on the board.

Oher at three?

ROFL

Of course cause Sanchez and Jenkins would not be a reach at 3

Ok he is not the top senior prospect and after junoirs came out he only fell behind Crabtree.

Who are you talkin about?

OLB's are not worth top 5 picks.

Especially coverage LB's.

Exactly, and Crabtree is slow, played in the spread, and is not nearly as athletically gifted as Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson, so is not a top 5 prospect either.

Maybe in most drafts a LB wouldn't be a top five pick but in this draft because of the lack of top end talent there very well may be a LB top five pick. Never say always and never say never!

I hope Detroit drafts safe like Miami did last year and we get Stafford.


PhilFree:arrow:

What lack of top end talent?

Curry is behind both QB's, and all 3 OT's in my book. As well as Maualuga and Jenkins.

It looks like it's lacking in talent because we're not picking a tackle that high again, and 3 is too high for Maualuga as well.

So, just like Mecca said, Stafford, Sanchez and Jenkins are the only picks worth it to KC at 3.

There are plenty of OTs in this draft that's for sure. I wouldn't be upset about drafting Jenkins even though I like our young CBs. Hell I wouldn't freak out if we drafted the best OT.

Still my want is Stafford.


PhilFree:arrow:

I will flip shit if the Chiefs take Malcolm Jenkins 3rd overall.

I wouldn't be thrilled with it, but he's better value there than anyone else, assuming both QB's are off the board.

Sanchez either goes to us or late teens/20's in every draft. NFL Live was saying again that because of Ryan and Flacco teams are gonna reach for QB's who shouldnt be drafted so high.

Curry is a 5 star prospect on every evaluation I've seen thus far outside of the QB at all cost crowd on this BB. He's also being called the best LB prospect in years. I really think people are dogging him to bolster their QB at any cost argument.

I think anyone with a brain wouldn't chose a cover linebacker with the number three overall pick.

You want to take a player at a position, which, historically, is only successful 30% of the time? Cornerback is the most overrated position on the field bar none, and with the refs enforcing interference more, it would be a complete waste, especially considering that the Chiefs basically stole Flowers in the second in last years draft and Carr panned out as well as he did.

I want a QB in the worst way, specifically Stafford or Sanchez, but I'd most certainly take Curry over Jenkins at that spot if it came down to the two. And I would definitely take Monroe or Oher over anyone other than the two QB's previously mentioned at that spot.

And I suffered enough through the Kawika Mitchell years to even think about considering Maualuga. I'm pretty much done with overly aggressive "physical specimens" who over-pursue and basically take themselves out of 80% of the plays.

And there is something to be said about Curry being viable. Chiefs need a real LB in the worst way possible, and all the pundits think Curry is the real deal. Most say he is better than Pat Willis was, and I thought Willis kicked some serious ass for the Niners. I hope to the powers that be that we get one of the two QB's, but I wouldn't be kicking the dog if Curry ended up our guy.

Stunning response OTW. You put a lot of thought into that one...

heh. sometimes the best material writes itself.

Exactly.

I have two thoughts. 1. Kick yourself in the balls until you can no longer stand up. Then have someone else continue kicking your balls until they can no longer stand. 2. Give me $110 so I can re-educate you.

I close my eyes; only for a moment, then the moment's gone.

The same brains that wanted Gholston top 5 last year...

Anyway the guy is more than just a cover corner. If he's good player and there arent 5 guys better than him (pretty much the universal view of his talent) then he is a consideration. I dont hear the Steelers complaining about having supperior linebacker play. DT didnt hurt us at #4 either.

Its not like he's a Guard or anything....:D

Seriously your man love for Sanchez so taints your view that you think his entire list isnt valid? Sanchez or nothing?

250 lb cover LB? The only place I've seen that is on chiefsplanet.

PhilFree:arrow:

If you take Aaron Curry that high there is no way for him to ever justify his pick, he'd literally have to be a 15 sack player and he's not that kind of LB..

So now you're looking at Keith Bulluck or Derrick Brooks and even if he became that...having the best non rushing OLB in the league is like saying you're the smartest person with down syndrome.

THIS.

he isn't as good as patrick willis, imo...and that dude went 11th....

Ware went 11th....is he as good as him?

Merriman went 12th....is he really as good as him?

honest questions...

No he is not.

That being said, doesn't it appear the rushing OLB's are being undervalued in the first round?

a bit, yes...

but if you aren't a rush backer, or a stud MLB, then it is hard to see top 5 value....which appears to be the case here...

Me too.

MLB it's tough to justify. But if it's considered good value to take a 4-3 DE in the top of a draft, I would think a 3-4 OLB would be considered high value. Who would you rather have a Ware or healthy Merricman or would you rahter have the best WR or best RB in the league (take your pick).

Unless that WR is Larry Fitzgerald or that RB is Adrian Peterson, then I'd take Ware everytime.

I don't think I would take either of them over Ware or a healthy Merriman, as great of players as they are.

But you get the point. RB's and WR are often consider top 5 picks, so why shouldn't an OLB in a 3-4?

I can't argue for or against Curry.

I haven't seen enough of him to draw any conclusions.

However, if he isn't a guy who can get double digit sacks on a regular basis, as some have suggested, then he wouldn't be a top 5 value pick.

I've haven't either, and am not argueing for him. I'm just stating in general they don't get valued the way they should. I would argue Brown and Maybin should be moved up higher on the boards. They get the "tweener" label and that automatically drops them down.

well, WR and RB are glamour positions and over rated in the draft, imo...i think you'll see less and less of RBs being taken so high given the sheer numbers of good RBs coming out and the short life spans of them in the pros...

Hey man over on the coalition they think Michael Crabtree is the greatest player that ever lived, there's dudes over there saying he's better than Calvin Johnson.

WHHHAT!?!

I'll have what they're smoking.

IMO, he doesn't have the hands, seperation abilty or vert. ability that Johnson does.

Give Calvin Johnson a QB like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees and it you wouldn't be able to even compare the two.

**** SANCHEZ................jesus christ.

Assuming Stafford is off the board, IMO, Pioli and Haley's history indicate they will go with Curry (50%), whoever they feel is the best tackle (25%) or BJ Raji (25%).

The Chiefs are not going to pick a ****ing cover backer at 3. Period.

They aren't tying up 100 million in the DT position. Period.

The aren't moving a second year LT who has proven he can play the position at a high level for a more expensive player who hasn't proven he can.

What the ****?? :shake:

Are you just going to post the same unjustified shit over and over again?

I can do one better:

There's a thread on WPI asking about trading Thigpen.

They think they can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.

Sooo, if both QB's are off the board and you can't trade down, I'm guessing you say take Crabtree?

I'd say BJ Raji over Curry or Crabtree at this point, though I seriously doubt both QB's will be gone #3.

No.

If by some chance that did happen, at this point I'd probably lean towards taking Malcolm Jenkins.

Who in the NFL would you compare to Jenkins? I didn't pay attention to him this past season.

Asomugha?

I would too. I don't know if paying that much to two DT's would be a big deal to Pioli or not.

He's good sized CB. I don't know if he plans to run at the combine or not, but I'd being interested to see some times on him. I believe I also seen something where the Pats really didn't seem to like taking CB's in the first round. Of course they never drafted this high so it's new territory for him.

Trade down first, can't do that, then Jenkins or a reach for Everette Brown.

I don't see why Brown isn't higher on boards. You know Pioli and Hailey have to be thinking "these MF'ers traded away Jared Allen and left us with thie pile of crap to work with".

I guess because he's seen as a tweener.

Boards at this point are shots on a dartboard anyway.

I brought this up in another thread. I think the "tweener's" have been highly undervalued. Especially as more teams move to the 3-4. Was Chris Long that much better of a prospect then Everett Brown?

He was "safer".

That's the nice thing about this draft. The two teams in front of us can go "safe" and pick LT, and we're home free.

He's a junior and was inconsistent against top competition.

I don't see how they would take Sanchez at #3. Haley is from the Parcells tree, has been surrounded by vet QB's his entire career and didn't seem to be too thrilled with the last USC QB that he came upon. Pioli was also content with and planned to use vet QB's most of his career. Pioli seems to lock onto the players he feels are the best. No way is Sanchez the 3rd best player in this years draft.

Let's say you're right and the Chiefs pass on Sanchez (which FTR, I think you're incorrect): Who's the "veteran" QB that the Chiefs sign to start? Everyone out there is a washed up POS or a never was.

And how will that work, especially when Clark Hunt has repeatedly stated that he wants to draft and develop a Franchise QB?

Furthermore, I recall that Todd Haley also spent some time around Rex Grossman and Tony Romo...

Bingo, an executive order shall commence during this draft especially if Stafford is still on the board.

He has more to do with the fact that he's lighter and shorter than what he's listed at.

Who is the veteran that will start this year if KC drafts Sanchez?

Sanchez......

Tony Gonzalez ,Dwayne Bowe, Mark Bradley as well

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Actually, he's the only one worth the 3rd.

I still say we're taking Cassel as our QBOTF. Then we trade our 3rd to the Jets to get some extra picks.

How are the Jets going to trade from 17 to 3, when their entire draft is only worth 1500 points, and the 3rd pick is worth 2200?

Because the draft chart is dumb.

LMAO.

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