Ten years ago i wouldnt have given it a 2nd thought.
 

what has happened to me? have i grown old and soft?
my boss tells me yesterday that someone was in my truck. weve played this game here at work before being located next to a brown derby we get lots of drunks and riff raff types. so i think ya right he is pulling my leg.
upon further inspection i see there is a person in my truck.
i walk out to where the vehicle is parked and theres a drunk layin in the floor board and he has a pack of Ron JOn cards my mother gave me in one hand and my change in the other.
i never hesitate, i punch the guy in the nose breaking it, as his head comes back up i grab him by the jacket and throw him across the parkin lot and he lands face first breaking a few teeth out. as he is spiting teeth and trying to get up i kick him, at that point my boss yells and i stop.
at the time i didnt feel bad cause i was pissed, i hate liars and thieves,but as i reflected on it later i couldnt help but think he didnt deserve to have his face punched in over acouple bucks in change and a deck of cards.
i didnt press charges but he ended up pissing the cops off and they hauled him off anyway.

Pussy!/~Midnight_Vulture

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No, he deserved it. Don't second guess it.

You should have stabbed him in the face.

I didn't know drunks laying in vehicles had teeth.

I am a democrat....I woulda gave him a few bucks, patted him on the ass and sent him on his way.......

my first thought.

seriously - delete thread....never admit to a felony on the intraweb, man (BTW - did you ever wonder where that $3,000 in casino cash came from?)

whatever, missouri has new laws that say i can use force to protect myself and my belongings with (deadly if necessary)force be it home or vehicle.

yes i did. and if i were in trouble the POLICE THAT WERE THERE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING.

Well, if having compassion for people who are going through probably the roughest times of their lives makes you a pussy, then I am the king of the pussies. I can live with that. Can you?

lock your doors.

Huh?

Us democrats are out heavy today.....

Then you wouldn't get to punch him.

I hate vagrants, **** them...Get a job or throw yourselves of a bridge. Smelly bastards.

Granted (for you bleeding hearts) some of them have just fallen on rough times and can't find work but guys like this one deserved what he got.
90% are drunks or drug addicts, trust me I deal with them as part of my job quite often.

i see no problem, and wouldn't lose sleep. drunk or sober, he should know not to steal. got what he deserved, IMO. of course i have a low tolerence of drunks, i can't stand the slurred speach, or their inability to comprehend anything. i'm all for going out and having some beers, and even the occasional sloshing, but if you're drunk enough to pass out in somebody's truck while you're robbing them, you deserve to have your face ran accross a cheese grater.

the ones that have fallen on hard times will probably work their way out of it, and aren't the ones breaking into cars to steal pocket change.

You haven't gotten old and soft. It's the Obamaffect.

you've become a kinder, gentler headstomper.

I think we all gain perspective with age.

I think you did was a natural reaction. You work hard to get what you have and you have the right to protect it and get pissed off when someone tries to take it.

I think its also natural as we age that we see things differently. I know I feel guilty about a kid I beat up in Jr high over $5 taken from my wallet, and another in High school that stole clothes from me. Looking back, I didn't have much at the time, either myself or my parents had worked hard for that, and I reacted...somewhat savagely. Looking back, both of those kids probably needed it worse than I did(the stuff, not the beating).

I think you should call it even.

I'm a democrat, but in no way, shape, or form would I let someone steal from me. Would I have punched him? No. WOuld I have thrown him across the parking lot? Probably. Would I give him cash? Are you kidding?

I'll bet if you think about it....there is some caveman instinct that feels good today, that you can still defend your cave.

someone passed out in YOUR vehicle stealing YOUR stuff equals azz whippin' everytime. no need to feel guilty.

broke into the wrong persons vehicle.

You did the right thing as far as I'm concerned. Nice work. :thumb:

I would have called the cops myself, but that's just me. I mean, unless the dude is a threat to you, IMO no need to lay down the beating. But, you are in your rights to do so. Myself personally, I don't get physical unless I or someone else is in danger. If the dude was passed out, I'd have just called the cops. If he was up and active, then I could see smacking him around to at least keep him there until the cops show up.

Sometimes you use it or you loose it. If you get what you want in life by being a hardass, nothing wrong with alittle brush up on smashing heads if it is within reason

I commend you for your courage. I also commend you for having a conscience. I would have flashed mad myself and likely reacted the same way. However, since I'm Ollie Stewart sized, I would have likely gotten my ass wooped. You know what I mean.

THAT guy is lucky it wasnt my truck, the boss yelling wouldnt have stopped me

The overwhelming majority of homeless are severely mentally troubled. Most are supposed to be on meds for things such as schizophrenia, problem is since the USA doesn't have cheap or free drugs, they cant afford them, so they stop taking them, then they are crazy and cant get a job.... b/c they are crazy. They once were in "nut houses" but that method of 'treatment' was mostly destroyed in the 80's, so they just wander the street since their family abandoned them, and they arent sane enough to get a job. A lot of Vietnam vets end up this way due to their PTSD as well.

Almost none of the homeless you see choose to live that life by virtue of laziness. That makes little sense and has little evidence to justify it. I am pretty sure it takes a hell of a lot more to be homeless than it does to get up every week day at 6am and go to work from 9 to 5. They are most likely drunks or addicts due to self medication, or they use it as a way to get out of (temporarily) the shit existence they are in. Wouldn't you drink your mind into oblivion if you were mentally troubled and unable to get/keep a job or have a dry place to sleep at night? Probably easier to pass out and piss yourself than think about everything.

Self-realization is good and in many cases, such as this one, so are stompings.

Maybe he'll think twice before doing it next time and have something to think about next time he looks in the mirror in the meantime.

You should have built an octogon and got it on!!

It's funny, I never see people with these sentiments opening their homes up to the homeless. But the stream of excuses is endless.

Occupational hazard of being a truck burglar. As long as you stopped before it became a Rodney King thing, it's a learning experience for the drunken criminal.

Plus, you have a personal brand that you have to reinforce to the public.

And on a different note, why does my signature say I don't want pork ribs? I'm fine with getting pork ribs.

I don't see how agreeing with that assessment requires one to "open their homes" to the homeless.

to be honest if he would have asked me for change and i had abit to spair i would have given it to him. if he had asked while eating lunch i would have split my lunch.
ive done it before.

having worked ,gone to school, and hung out here for years i understand there are diffrent types from the pathetic to the outright dangerous. From vets on hard times and those who claim to be vets so they can get a handout.
had a fella tell me once he needed .50c for bus fair so he could get across town to buy a car.(ya right)
to those who just need a drink and tell me so( i can understand that).

It just means you're maturing. Nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't sweat it too much. Dude was stealing and got his just due.

Also, you're an idiot for leaving your ride unsecured. Smash yourself in the face with an iron bar so you won't do that again.

not that you were in trouble with police, but remember how twisted our court system is. said drunk person may find a lawyer w/o any scruples and tell him he got beat up for passing out in a vehicle that wasn't his.
lawyer will think pain and suffering, lost time from drinking, and mental anguish. must be a $500,000 case here.

Depends on if there were witnesses or not. Otherwise the guy just drunkenly fell down and smashed his face.

phob its an 80 dodge P/U with a alpine tapedeck(doesnt work sittin on dash). didnt think any thief would give it a second look. i use it as a farm truck and it hasnt been off the farm in years. only reason im driving it is cause they laidoff the warehouse guy put me back in the warehouse and sent my car to another tech.

just hoping you had lunch money. Give him a $5 spot for lunch (Boones Farm) let him sleep it off.

This is what I was thinking. Did you leave your car unlocked? Not that being unlocked justifies it getting broke into...but it may have been enough of a deterent for the bum to move along. Just saying....:shrug:

wasnt sleepin he was laying in the floorboard hiding and stealing.

true. unfortunately there is too much of that type stuff happening. greed can make one do horrible things.

that's even worse. for some reason i thought he was so drunk he passed out in your truck.

Older? Certainly. Softer? Doesn’t hardly sound like it.
Thieves rank just barely above baby rapers. **** that guy.

probably a Mizzou fan.

You might need a Tetanus shot.

That's why he got off easy, he would have ended a KU fan.

Well, I think it's obvious the guy is sick. While it doesn't justify his actions, I would feel sorry for breaking some dude's nose that is probably battling the worst demons of his life to begin with.

Hey, that's my line.

If you find yourself picking up pocket change off the floor of some old pickup truck for your next drink I'd say the demons won.

Oh no doubt. And in no way am I justifying the guys actions, or saying I would've reacted differently. But I know me, and I would've found a way to feel like shit over it later. In the grand scheme of things, it's not the end of the world. But at the same point, if the guy never does it again then MO taught him a valuable lesson. He could've gotten shot in the face over what amounts to a 22 oz. can of Steel Reserve.

Says the guy not even under American Jurisdiction LMAO.

THIS. I wouldn't have touched him though, I would of just called the Cops. MOhillbilly sleeps with a night light, not because he's afraid of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of him.

Yeah. Think about that . You should have gave him $100 and a Blow Job.

So you must be directly involved with the homeless in some way; you wouldn't just be using generalities or stereotypes?

You're such a billy bad ass. We should've sent him to your house so you could rub one out watching him jerk off your hogs.

I got it from Mo years ago.

you dipshit! Do you really think ANYONE can jerk off a hog. It takes lots of training. and I mean lots!

When the boogeyman goes to bed at night , he checks under the bed for Mo.

Welcome to the Midwest.

Ask for help, and you'll probably get it.

Ask for trouble, and you'll get that too, plus a broken nose and a few less teeth.

MO's tears cure cancer....too bad he has never cried.

O.k., O.k., look, there will be nobody jerking off hogs, watching it, and giving $100 in the process. If it was a cow that might be different.

you should pay for all of his dental work now :)

This happened to me once... story:

I was in the grocery store at age 18 with my sister in law, getting some snack food and beer. I come out of the store with a few bags of groceries in my hand, only to see my dome light on inside my car and a figure in the passenger seat. I dropped the bags to the ground and without thinking, yelled "hey you" while running towards him. As he sees me running full speed across the lot, he gets out of my car and starts running towards this piece of crap truck. As he opens the drivers side door, I jump kick him into it following instantly with a stike to the nose. He grabs his face as I start wailing on him with more shots to the face. He scratches me on the arm which causing an immense amount of blood dripping all over from me. At this point he gets his keys in the ignition and turn the truck on. With me still hanging in the door and stroking him (I had to of broke his jaw, I have seriously not even punched a bag this many times) I landed a great shot right as he threw the truck in gear. He falls over and drives right into the giant lightpole concrete base. At this point I had jumped out of the drivers side door and was watching him attempt his get-away. My sister in law was screaming the entire time.... it was pure chaos. Well he ended up driving down the street in his beat up rusted out truck with the muffler dragging... (like in the movies it seriously was causing sparks). Some dirty man, prolly in his mid thirties. For you St. Joe people this happened down at the old Green Hills on S. 22nd street. (Not the best part of town).

Anyway, the dude could have had a knife or a gun, but initial reaction took over. I was young and stupid, but I do not regret it. I still wonder if that dude learned his lesson.... a wrecked truck, a broken jaw, and he actually didn't even end up stealing anything of mine.

The best part was some 80 year old hunchback lady watched the whole thing and when it was all over she comes over to me and says, "wow I wouldn't **** with you." - lol
I still have a 4 inch scar on my arm to this day... the bastard clawed me!

For the record, I was not stealing or sleeping I was looking for an opportunity to make you aware that your personal belongings were unsecure. I only noticed because I swear I heard kitties crying from under your seat and wanted to rescue them. I will be sending you my dental bills post haste.

They may not have teeth, but they do have claws.

LMAO I couldn't help but laugh. Good one.

Have you ever talked to them? The quiet smiley ones? Not the ones batting at invisible birds. I do. Some of them are just totally happy to be lazy. I'd go so far as to say many of them. $5 will feed you in any city. It'll feed you in any town. Any professional pan handler can certainly beg, scrounge, dig, search, recover $5. Hell, McDonalds trash bins will feed you and the $5 can go to a couple 40s. For some people... to wake up, eat, drink, and lounge is the perfect life.

Not all homeless people are victims.
The one Mohillbilly beat the shit out of included.

Difficult to have a lot of sympathy for a thief. And hard to excuse.

Now he'll have to steal money for soft food I guess.

Sounds like the summer of '96 living at Ocean City, MD except I lived of Phillips Buffet leftovers instead of McDonalds.

With humans being such a social animals and those guys having so much time on their hands I wonder what they talk about when they get together. I can’t imagine their up on or even care for that matter about current affairs, technology, possessions, reviews, video games, golf, classes, work…

Bob: you see my new box?
Joe: nice
Bob: think it was for a washing machine
Joe: or a dryer
Bob: could have been
Joe: dishwasher too
Bob: should last through a rainstorm or two
Joe: yup

Nope, can’t say I’d be too excited to be a fly on the wall during a hobo conference.

I've never walked a mile in a hobo's shoes
I do realize none of us are more than a moment
of wrong place at the wrong time away

A lesson learned.


I'll bet this guy is sitting in a McDonalds, carefully sipping coffee he bought with the $1.23 he got in his pocket before Chuck Norris curb stomped him.

He's writing a note with a borrowed pen on a napkin that says


"Nowt 2 Seff.
Only Wob Twucks wif Pees syn or Obama bumper stickows"

It took me a second to figure out what pees syn was.

my truck sticker has two pistols crossed and says "my homeland security"
FYI