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DaFace 02-11-2009 02:16 PM

Are insults against friends/family members off limits?
 
Recently, this has come up in DC, but we've always set rules forum-wide rather than forum at a time. The entire place is so filled with personal attacks that I'm not sure any efforts could ever make conversation in there civil. But the question is, from a moderation standpoint, are personal attacks against family members over the line?

Depending on the answer to this question, we may add another bannable offense to the list. Poll to follow.

OnTheWarpath15 02-11-2009 02:17 PM

IMO, yes.

DaFace 02-11-2009 02:18 PM

Oh, and you can assume that there would be some level of discretion on this. "Your mom goes to college" and other joking things like that will never be bannable as far as I'm concerned.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:19 PM

No. Because this is a place where people sometimes come to vent and sometimes it takes a " your Momma " comment to get a point across. RedRum

OnTheWarpath15 02-11-2009 02:19 PM

You should have made this a public poll, that way we could see how many of Tom and Kotter's mults voted.

Simply Red 02-11-2009 02:19 PM

yes, unless it's from RedRum.

Basileus777 02-11-2009 02:20 PM

Depending on the severity, yes it should. I think the mods here are good enough to know when a line has been crossed.

Goapics1 02-11-2009 02:20 PM

Maybe vailpass and frazod should be sent to a room to kiss and make up. Then this would go away for the time being.

DaFace 02-11-2009 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5480263)
yes, unless it's from RedRum.

I agree with that. We're really only talking about intentionally hurtful attacks against a family member, not casually joking.

The Franchise 02-11-2009 02:21 PM

Yes but the mod should determine the severity of the insult and the ban that goes with it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-11-2009 02:21 PM

If someone says "It looks like your wife could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch." That could be taken as both a compliment and an insult.

I'm torn.

keg in kc 02-11-2009 02:22 PM

This is a slippery slope.

You're going to end up asking mods to judge intent.

Goapics1 02-11-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5480275)
If someone says "It looks like your wife could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch." That could be taken as both a compliment and an insult.

I'm torn.

What if it is factual?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5480275)
If someone says "It looks like your wife could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch." That could be taken as both a compliment and an insult.

I'm torn.


But my wife CAN suck the chrome off a trailor hitch, so if somebody says that to me, its just matter of factly! You're right

Basileus777 02-11-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5480278)
This is a slippery slope.

You're going to end up asking mods to judge intent.

Someone has to make that judgment, it's the point of having mods.

dirk digler 02-11-2009 02:25 PM

DaFace where is the list of bannable offenses besides the FAQ or is that it?

ClevelandBronco 02-11-2009 02:25 PM

There should be a necessary specificity to make it bannable, IMHO.

Not bannable: Your wife is a fat ass slut.

Bannable: Your wife Teresa is a fat ass slut. I've attached her fat ass slut picture from one of your previous posts.

(I'd like to apologize to anyone whose wife is named Teresa.)

DaFace 02-11-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5480292)
DaFace where is the list of bannable offenses besides the FAQ or is that it?

That's it, though racial slurs have always been at least temp bannable and that's not in the list. Maybe it should be.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-11-2009 02:27 PM

IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET YOU PUSSIES!!!!!

Goapics1 02-11-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5480303)
IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET YOU PUSSIES!!!!!

ROFL

Basileus777 02-11-2009 02:28 PM

It's pretty hard to get banned on Chiefs Planet unless you are trying to. I don't think limiting these kind of insults is going to lead to some slippery slope and completely flip the way the Planet is moderated.

dirk digler 02-11-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5480299)
That's it, though racial slurs have always been at least temp bannable and that's not in the list. Maybe it should be.

Thanks and that is what I said in DC. The list doesn't include any racial slurs like the n-word so by some over in DC, patteeu mainly, he thinks that is acceptable behavior.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:28 PM

Well, The no's are leading the poll.

Thread over!

Mr. Laz 02-11-2009 02:28 PM

unless the person actually KNOWS your family i don't see any significant difference in the insult.


you're a dumb ass

your dad is a dumb ass




if i have talked to you but i haven't met your dad, which insult is worse?


:shrug:

Simply Red 02-11-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5480299)
That's it, though racial slurs have always been at least temp bannable and that's not in the list. Maybe it should be.

Is 'wigga' bannable? If so, please see what you can do w/ Tiny Evel, K?

Bootlegged 02-11-2009 02:30 PM

Jesus Christ you ****ing hall monitors.

Simply Red 02-11-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 5480321)
Jesus Christ you ****ing hall monitors.

ROFL

teedubya 02-11-2009 02:31 PM

**** all your moms.

ShortRoundChief 02-11-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 5480297)
There should be a necessary specificity to make it bannable, IMHO.

Not bannable: Your wife is a fat ass slut.

Bannable: Your wife Teresa is a fat ass slut. I've attached her fat ass slut picture from one of your previous posts.

(I'd like to apologize to anyone whose wife is named Teresa.)

I agree with this.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5480307)
Thanks and that is what I said in DC. The list doesn't include any racial slurs like the n-word so by some over in DC, patteeu mainly, he thinks that is acceptable behavior.


Personally , I think saying the n word as being directed to someone should be, I don't think saying the n word in general should.

dirk digler 02-11-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5480325)
**** all your moms.

I think redrum already did

StcChief 02-11-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5480284)
But my wife CAN suck the chrome off a trailor hitch, so if somebody says that to me, its just matter of factly! You're right

unless they have person experience with her....:eek:

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5480325)
**** all your moms.


OK. I changed my mind. Would someone ban this Douchebag.

Gonzo 02-11-2009 02:33 PM

Attacks like this should be a one warning thing with a temp ban. If they do it again then they can GTFO.

On another note, I don't really like it when "certain" posters constantly say, Kill yourself, Die in a Fire and the like. I think that should be bannable to a degree as well.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5480334)
unless they have person experience with her....:eek:

If they have personal experience with her.... well ..... The jokes on them!ROFL

dirk digler 02-11-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5480342)
If they have personal experience with her.... well ..... The jokes on them!ROFL

LMAO

lazepoo 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5480303)
IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET YOU PUSSIES!!!!!

This is true, but there's definitely a line where people stop having worthwhile conversation and the thread is hijacked by a bunch of "you'd **** your uncle" bullshit. If people could figure out when to leave it alone, it would be fine, but some posters just want to beat a dead horse and bring up the same crap every time that someone they disagree with posts something.

Conversations become heated and things get said that shouldn't bother people because it's teh interwebs, but when it's a consistent and malicious pattern that detracts from intelligent conversation and not just an isolated incident, something should be done. Frankly, if it isn't something you'd be willing to tell someone in person, you probably shouldn't say it.

Frazod 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

It's a sad reflection of what this board has degenerated into that this vote is even close.

We should all be proud of that. :shake:

CrazyPhuD 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

Is having no balls a bannable offense too?

***SPRAYER 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5480315)
Is 'wigga' bannable? If so, please see what you can do w/ Tiny Evel, K?

Is that Tim Geithner in your AVATAR? Oh wait, that's Eraserhead... I think.

Is Tim Geithner eraserhead???

Mr. Flopnuts 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5480325)
**** all your moms.

This. Or, esto.

Inspector 02-11-2009 02:36 PM

So my mom likes her army boots.

Big whoop. You wanna fight about it?

Katipan 02-11-2009 02:36 PM

If we're policing the Internet then one should be prepared for insults regarding ANYTHING they've talked about or brought around here.

That being said, every poster here has an aresenal of things one can talk shit about, why bring family into it?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5480352)
It's a sad reflection of what this board has degenerated into that this vote is even close.

We should all be proud of that. :shake:


And what does this mean ?

blueballs 02-11-2009 02:38 PM

I decline from jury duty

Mr. Laz 02-11-2009 02:38 PM

i will be selling my vote for this poll to the highest bidder



casino dollars ......... let the bidding begin!!!!!!!!! PBJ

ClevelandBronco 02-11-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5480303)
IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET YOU PUSSIES!!!!!

Well, yeah. There's that.

Frankly, I don't care what offends anyone except AustinChief.

FAX 02-11-2009 02:39 PM

What about pets?

FAX

jidar 02-11-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5480248)
Recently, this has come up in DC, but we've always set rules forum-wide rather than forum at a time. The entire place is so filled with personal attacks that I'm not sure any efforts could ever make conversation in there civil. But the question is, from a moderation standpoint, are personal attacks against family members over the line?

Depending on the answer to this question, we may add another bannable offense to the list. Poll to follow.

Your mom is a bannable offense

Katipan 02-11-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5480381)
What about pets?

FAX

Your pet wears combat boots.

jidar 02-11-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5480372)
i will be selling my vote for this poll to the highest bidder



casino dollars ......... let the bidding begin!!!!!!!!! PBJ

Your mom sells to the highest bidder

CrazyPhuD 02-11-2009 02:40 PM

What if your friends/family are donkey fans? Is that still a bannable offense or will we make exceptions for them?

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-11-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5480275)
If someone says "It looks like your wife could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch." That could be taken as both a compliment and an insult.

I'm torn.

ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5480303)
IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET YOU PUSSIES!!!!!

:LOL:LMAO:thumb:

And don't think you're gonna' get a pass just because you put your child or grandchild in your AV/SIG; the "cute card" now get's you absolutely nothing protection-wise.

DaFace 02-11-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5480372)
i will be selling my vote for this poll to the highest bidder



casino dollars ......... let the bidding begin!!!!!!!!! PBJ

I should mention that the results of this poll aren't binding - merely adding information to a discussion in the mod forum about an appropriate response to certain situations. Unless the results are overwhelmingly one direction or another, anyway.

FAX 02-11-2009 02:42 PM

What about extended family? Or step-parents? Or adopted 16 year old Chinese girls that you buy off the internet?

FAX

Bootlegged 02-11-2009 02:42 PM

This is what happens when Democrats have power.

JuicesFlowing 02-11-2009 02:42 PM

Yes. I just don't see the point. There are thousands of OTHER ways to offend someone :)

keg in kc 02-11-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 5480385)
Your pet wears combat boots.

My combat boots wear your pet.

Saulbadguy 02-11-2009 02:43 PM

Making fun of others children is always amusing, as people always think their kids are just the best things ever, and it usually makes them really, really mad.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 5480390)
What if your friends/family are donkey fans? Is that still a bannable offense or will we make exceptions for them?


Then those friends are not really friends and those family members should be disowned!

CrazyPhuD 02-11-2009 02:43 PM

Speaking of banning is it possible to write a script that bans 1/3 of the registered users on any given day? That would cut down on the number of people offending other peoples friends/families....

blueballs 02-11-2009 02:44 PM

Now that the NFL season is officially over
this forum should be merged with DC
wait a month then a re-vote should be taken

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5480397)
What about extended family? Or step-parents? Or adopted 16 year old Chinese girls that you buy off the internet?

FAX


Fair Game IMO!

ClevelandBronco 02-11-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5480275)
I'm torn.

I looked up your problem on the web.

Solution: Stop taking it up the ass.

dirk digler 02-11-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5480397)
Or adopted 16 year old Chinese girls that you buy off the internet?

FAX

LMAO

Would that include our wives we get from mail-order?

keg in kc 02-11-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 5480354)
Is having no balls a bannable offense too?

Maybe that's why there aren't many female posters.

And I thought it was cause I didn't shower.

Demonpenz 02-11-2009 02:46 PM

There is too much stuff to decipher. If it is something off the charts bad like. I hope your child dies then yes but it better be a slam dunk

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:47 PM

You know, this place has turned into a circus at times over the past few years while insults have been made about each others family members and at the same time the membership has doubled. At almost any one time there are now over 200 members viewing the lounge.

Of course half of them are probably members of Homeland Security.

patteeu 02-11-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5480257)
Oh, and you can assume that there would be some level of discretion on this. "Your mom goes to college" and other joking things like that will never be bannable as far as I'm concerned.

That might be a difficult caveat to impose depending on where the line is drawn, IMO. What Vailpass did was really no different than that except that it was a bit more colorful.

We've got a rule against rude comments in prayer threads and I could support an extension of this concept to cover any situation where a poster's real life challenges (whether they be the poster, his/her family, or his/her friends) are being rudely treated whether in an official prayer thread or not, but the Vailpass comment that sparked this thread didn't involve anything like that at all. People around here ought to be able to withstand redrum-style treatment of hypothetical loved ones.

Frazod 02-11-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5480367)
And what does this mean ?

It means that this place is going straight to hell, and that is a direct result of the mods' lax attitude.

This shouldn't even be a question put to a vote - it should just be implemented. Good thing the police don't operate like our moderators; stealing would only be a crime if the thieves got voted down. :shake:

OnTheWarpath15 02-11-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5480352)
It's a sad reflection of what this board has degenerated into that this vote is even close.

We should all be proud of that. :shake:

Until you've posted a picture of your wife and been e-stalked like we have, I'm not sure people actually understand it.

Inspector 02-11-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 5480403)
Making fun of others children is always amusing, as people always think their kids are just the best things ever, and it usually makes them really, really mad.

My son is the best artist in his cell block.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-11-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5480427)
There is too much stuff to decipher. If it is something off the charts bad like. I hope your child dies then yes but it better be a slam dunk

I haven't encountered anything like this in the almost 4 years I've been a part of this community, but this type of shit is definitely an exception to the rule. I'd say wishing death to members children would be a bannable offense. I honestly can't think of much else though. Really, that's what the ignore function is for IMO.

FAX 02-11-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5480431)
You know, this place has turned into a circus at times over the past few years while insults have been made about each others family members and at the same time the membership has doubled. At almost any one time there are now over 200 members viewing the lounge.

Of course half of them are probably members of Homeland Security.

Probably somebody's idiot friends/family members.

FAX

***SPRAYER 02-11-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5480392)
And don't think you're gonna' get a pass just because you put your child or grandchild in your AV/SIG; the "cute card" now get's you absolutely nothing protection-wise.

Then I suggest you change your avatar.

patteeu 02-11-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5480266)
Depending on the severity, yes it should. I think the mods here are good enough to know when a line has been crossed.

The problem that will result won't be mod abuse, it will be deputy mod abuse through the infraction system.

Take Frazod for example. Anyone who blows a hole in his refrigerator is a little too trigger happy for my taste:

http://www.ultimatepartyshop.com/sho...rmal/22534.jpg

CrazyPhuD 02-11-2009 02:50 PM

I think all mod decisions should be made via this....

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

Saulbadguy 02-11-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5480434)
It means that this place is going straight to hell, and that is a direct result of the mods' lax attitude.

This shouldn't even be a question put to a vote - it should just be implemented. Good thing the police don't operate like our moderators; stealing would only be a crime if the thieves got voted down. :shake:

Dude, you have partaken.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-11-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 5480432)
That might be a difficult caveat to impose depending on where the line is drawn, IMO. What Vailpass did was really no different than that except that it was a bit more colorful.

We've got a rule against rude comments in prayer threads and I could support an extension of this concept to cover any situation where a poster's real life challenges (whether they be the poster, his/her family, or his/her friends) are being rudely treated whether in an official prayer thread or not, but the Vailpass comment that sparked this thread didn't involve anything like that at all. People around here ought to be able to withstand redrum-style treatment of hypothetical loved ones.


Good Point! An insult in a prayer request thread should be treated as needing disciplinary action. But in anything else ?????

Bootlegged 02-11-2009 02:52 PM

This thread is ass.


http://www.openentrance.com/wp-conte...neicy-nash.jpg


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