GBN Mock from 2/17/09
 

http://www.gbnreport.com/2009projection.html

Crabtree and Matthews for those of you who don't want to click on the link.

And here is their new top 140 from yesterday as well...

http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

Sounds good to me.

That might be the worst mock I've seen.

Crabtree and Matthews?

How about Sanchez and Heyward-Bey?

Sanchez and Kruger?

Sanchez and Simtim?


Hell, Curry and HB would be better value than what they are suggesting.

Terrible.

They've gone full-reerun. I also don't believe KC would pass up on Michael Johnson in the 2nd round.

****. That.

they must be smoking something good

Aren't they the ones who had us picking Albert last year?

Er, with the 5th pick, I mean...

GBN always puts out dumb mocks. Nothing new.

What?! Crabtree would be a perfect fit for the new Haley regime. He and Bowe would create a new "Fitzgerald & Bouldin" only with more athletic ability and better hands. As of right now, a "Bowe & Crabtree" would be the best receiver duo in the NFL hands down.

And Matthews, while he might have been a walk-on at USC and only really began to get playing time his senior year, has, literally, generations of NFL genes in his system. His Dad and Uncle were studs, and there is no reason to believe that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in that family. And you don't play for USC if you suck. Dude has immeasurables that are literally off the chart.

That's a pretty solid first two picks if you ask me.























I kid. That's the worst mock I've ever seen anywhere. Hell, BF Skinner's chickens could peck out a better mock than that. Although, I would wet myself in joy and happiness for a Sanchez/Sintim or Sanchez/Kruger draft. Said it before, but I think Kruger is the best overall DE in the draft. Guy is an animal. Same with Sintim.

GBN is pretty shitty...

The question I ask is has Crabtree really separated himself from the pack, I don't feel that he has.

I knew it would suck after OTW58's comment but JFC.

Hamas needs to go over there and tell them to kill themselves.

Awful.

Really? I mean...really?

Did someone get paid for this? God I hope not.

Crabtree?? Especially after I JUST read the tread about Crabtree not being a top 10 talent, this furthers my anger over him.

Graham threw the ball 40 friggin times a game.

Of course Crabtress is going to have good numbers, by that logic then Graham should be a top 5 pick too...right??

Damn it all. I hate 'draft gurus'.

You know I've honestly been trying to figure this out, searching for it if you will. What separates Michael Crabtree from the rest of the WR's, what makes him a top 5 pick the #1 WR and I've yet to find anything that separates him.

If anything I've found things that look like you could argue he shouldn't be the 1st WR taken.

Personally, if taking a LB in the 2nd round, I like Clint Sintim better than Mathews.

I agree with pretty much everything already said here. That mock is awful. IMO Crabtree is very much overrated for obvious(to me) reasons, i.e. not a good route runner, not good in press coverage, not great speed. When all is said and done I would not be surprised to see Maclin and possibly Heyward-Bey have better rookie years and possibly pro careers.

If Sintim is there in the second, I see no way that the Chiefs would go with Matthews of him. Just an awful mock draft.

<center><big><big><big>2009 DRAFT PROJECTION</big></big></big><big><big><big></big></big></big> </center>

Second round
<table style="width: 524px; height: 883px;" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>33</td> <td>Detroit
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>Larry English</small>
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DE</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Northern Illinois</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>34</td> <td>Kansas City</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Clay Matthews</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Southern California</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>35
</td> <td>St. Louis </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darrius Heyward-Bey
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Maryland
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>36
</dt> </td> <td> <dt>Cleveland</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Kenny Britt
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Rutgers
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td> <dt>37 </dt> </td> <td> <dt> Seattle</dt> </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">William Beatty</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">UConn
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>38
</td> <td>Cincinnati</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Paul Kruger
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Utah
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">39</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Jacksonville</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Phil Loadholt
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oklahoma
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td> <dt>40 </dt> </td> <td>Oakland</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Sen'Derrick Marks
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Auburn
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <td>41 </td> <td> Green Bay</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Clint Sintim
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Virginia
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">42
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Buffalo</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Chase Coffman
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">TE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Missouri
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">43</td> <td> San Francisco</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Rashad Johnson</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">FS
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Alabama
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>44</td> <td>Miami (from Washington) </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Sean Smith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Utah
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: left; font-weight: bold;">45
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">New York Giants (from New Orleans)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Ziggy Hood
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Missouri
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">46 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Houston </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Michael Johnson
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Georgia Tech
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>47</td> <td>New England (from San Diego)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darius Butler
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">UConn
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">48
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Denver </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Terrence Taylor
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">NT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Michigan
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">49</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Chicago </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Robert Ayers
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Tennessee
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">50</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Tampa Bay </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Tyrone McKenzie
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Florida
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">51
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Dallas </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Derrick Williams
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Penn State
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">52 </td> <td>New York Jets</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Macho Harris
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Virginia Tech
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">53 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Philadelphia</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Jared Cook
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">TE
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Carolina
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">54 </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Minnesota</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Jamon Meredith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">OT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">South Carolina
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top;">55
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Atanta
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Patrick Chung
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">SS
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oregon
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">56
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Miami </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Duke Robinson </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">OG
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Oklahoma </td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>57</td> <td>Baltimore</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Darry Beckwith
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LSU
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">58
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">New England </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Connor Barwin
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Cincinnati
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">59
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Carolina</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Fili Moala
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">DT
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Southern California
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>60</td> <td>New York Giants</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Marcus Freeman
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">LB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Ohio State
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">61
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Indianapolis
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Eric Wood
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">C
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Louisville
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td>62
</td> <td>Tennessee
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Brian Robiskie
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">WR
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Ohio State
</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;"> <td style="vertical-align: top;">63
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"> Arizona </td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Bruce Johnson
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">CB
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top;">Miami
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">64
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Pittsburgh </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>Jarron Gilbert</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><small>DE</small></td> <td style="vertical-align: top;"><small>San Jose State</small></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
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The kid might run ,what...a 4.45 at best, does not have the break away speed, nor the separation ability.

Why is he THAT much better than Maclin or Heyward-Bey? His numbers?!?! The kid was thrown to 10 times a game, of course he is going to have the numbers.

The server would crash if we took Crabtree #3

If he doesn't have breakaway speed how is able to do so much damage after the catch? Track speed v. football speed.

If he runs a 4.45 he's a lock for the top 5. People are suggesting that he's not running at the combine because he can't break 4.6.

Separation isn't something dictated by the 40, though. You'd need to see his 10 meter splits and his cone drills to get more of an idea about his acceleration. Strength and technique plays into it, too, beating the bump off the line.

I will burn shit if we take Matthews over anybody, let alone Crabtree at #3. I like the guy, but not any better than a guy like Collie, who has the same speed, same hands, a good ability to separate, but is definitely not a first round option.

Actually, I would like to read Mecca's take on Matthews.

7-28-08
"Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want."


Why did you change your mind?

When I sat down and really watched him outside of a highlight video...

Not only that, but we would be another 2 years behind any rebuild for a championship run...