Who finds success in the 3-4?
 

check all that apply. Interested to see who you guys have faith in. And think of this as a role on either the DL or at LB. Pollard only counts if you see him moving closer to the line.

fock, went to all this trouble and left off McBride :wall:


what I'm curious to see, is how many players people actually think we have in the waiting to start at the 7 various positions...

I think it will be Curry. Haha, had to say it for Mecca and the QB crew.

McBride

no question, there will be holes to fill. We will have opportunities both via the draft and free agency. I think the question becomes, who do we already have that could be good enough to work around? I'm not too sure that anybody is a guarantee at this point, which really means our front office has a lot of evaluation to do in the next month.

Curry, no doubt.

The Chiefs will NOT select Mark Sanchez. COUNT ON IT.

what would our starters look like if we had to play tomorrow?

Williams.....Tyler.....Dorsey.....McBride.....Hali
..................Pollard.....Johnson..................


:shrug:

DJ most definately.

I wonder if Brian Johnston would do well as an OLB in this scheme? IIRC, he was a bit light for a RDE but was supposed to be a good pass rusher.

Players not listed in this poll.

n00b poll FTL

Curry.....McBride.....Tank.....Dorsey.....Johnson
..................FA or Draft.....FA or Draft.............
Flowers.......Pollard.............Morgan............Carr

Nickel: Legget

Tank, Pollard (could be Polamalu-like in the right scheme), Flowers, DJ... maybe a few others, but these are the big ones.

If the Chiefs go 3-4....the odds of selecting Curry in the first just went up.

Aaron Curry is not a pass rusher, at all. He's a cover backer.

He's Derrick Brooks or Patrick Willis (only if they weren't nearly as good). He's not James Harrison or Lawrence Taylor.

3-4 OLB is in no way at all similar to 4-3 OLB.

And according to the above poll, the correct answer is none.

I'm thinking they envision having Curry hit the weights, and put him in the middle. He'd be a freak there.

Of course, I thought Marty was gonna do that with Donnie Edwards too.

DJ. I think he likes to blitz more than anything. He would have fun coming off that corner blitzing as an OLB.

I think DJ will have his career revived by playing the ILB position. He is not an OLB in the 34. He has the physical skills to roam behind the DL and react to the play as well as cover a RB or TE in coverage. I think he will look good in this system. McBride is a true 34 DE, so he probably will improve... not too hard for him to get better than he has been.

:spock:

You couldn't be more wrong on both players if you TRIED TO BE MORE WRONG.

My understanding is that in the 34 you want guys to be around 6'2" 240-250 lbs and quick. The monster guys play the OLB. So maybe you want Curry as ROLB?

Ok. So educate me on the matter.

Why would you spend a top three pick on an inside linebacker in a 3-4??

The only two positions on that D worth that pick are OLB (which is the equivalent of a RDE) and NT.

You can't spend 60 million dollars on Aaron Curry to play inside linebacker. It makes him the highest paid linebacker in the league, and it will wreak havoc on your salary cap, not to mention the fact that it's just not that important of a position.

You should be spending a top three pick on a QB, RDE (OLB), LT or a FREAK DT, or WR. That's really about it.

Tyler - Dorsey - McBride
XXXXX - XXXXX - Johnson - Hali

If you could replace that void with a Raven and Peppers....don't you feel a thousand times better about this defense?

I agree with this wholeheartedly, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins, although a super-stud RB might also warrant a pick that high, I suppose. It presents an interesting question, though. What if (based on the system you're running and your current roster) there isn't a draft choice that really fits?

Based on our current level of suck, it won't be a problem for us this year, but it makes you wonder. Do you try and trade the pick? Select for positional depth?

FAX

Okay. I'll stick to coaching. You handle the F.O.

My bad.

No.

That defense would suck balls.

You don't think the 300 lb. DT is a good fit?

That's not the ideal?

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DJ has the size to play ILB, but he's too much of a pussy. He might be OK at WILB, but that's the least important position on a 3-4 defense. He'd make a much better complimentary rush 'backer. He's not a 15-sack guy but if he adds 10lbs. I see no reason why he couldn't notch 7-9 sacks per season.

As for McBride, the dude is flat-out too small right now and doesn't have the ideal frame to grow much. He's also never shown the quickness to set the edge, nevermind the ability to control two gaps.

Hell, that ain't all of it.

I just don't get how anyone thinks that a slow DE is going to transition to OLB in 34 and be successful.

It "bottles" the mind.

It is bottling.

That whole alignment sucks ass. Tank as the DE?

On paper, he's one of the few people who could potentially fit, but at the T. He'd have to be a hell of a lot more consistent, however.

If the team actually switches to the 3-4, it demands a carpet bombing.

I don't blame the thought, though. It's the perfect time. They're terrible in the 4-3, too, so there's no better time to blow it up.

I doubt very much that Hali would make it as an OLB. Nope. I just don't see it. As for Dorsey, he's a square peg in a round hole in the 3/4 system. I'm beginning to wonder if we're not looking at some kind of hybrid defense here. Something that allows us to use these players in rotation for now as we migrate our personnel and acquire players that actually fit the 3/4 (assuming, of course, that this whole 3/4 deal is not just more wild ass speculation by members of the media who are grasping at straws for grist).

As for DJ, I remain convinced that he's been coached down. I can't believe that, under the right circumstances, he wouldn't be an impact player. Keep in mind that, over the last several years, we've gone through (as of the last count) about 80 billion linebackers - some of whom have left the Chiefs to become contributors for other teams.

FAX

Who finds success in the 3-4?
 

The Kansas City Chiefs baby!!! Hi Five [the Todd]

You can't vote unless you select at least one.

Wasnt McBride 278 pounds when we drafted him? I am pretty sure he can gain 10 pounds and play at 290lbs. He looks like he can add at least 10-15 lbs.

I dont know how much of a pussy DJ is since he plays LB in the NFL, but it just seems to me he is better cut out to play ILB and cover the RB and TE's, especially if the OLB is knocking the TE off his route right at the line. He is also pretty quick, making him a good candidate to crash on the gap that a RB may be coming through. I know when we drafted him the knock was that he couldnt shed blocks, but he seems quite capable of that. I think he could also play the OLB position as well. He reminds me of a lesser talented Pat Willis (same size). Willis does have the mind set to crack skulls though, plus god like speed for a LB.

290lb. would still be light. That's the issue. He wouldn't have to gain 8-10lb., it's more like 20-25lb., and even then he'd STILL be one of the lighter guys around. Aaron Smith is one of the lightest worthwhile 3-4 ends in the league and he goes 298lb., but he's 6'5" and is flanked by a 330lb. Pro Bowl-caliber nose guard.

I'll believe we're going to 3-4 when I see them line up in it, or at minimum start fielding some players that can do it. You need a huge anchor in the middle of this defense. I can see where our coaches might be looking and figure that our guys can't play 4-3 so why not try 3-4. I don't think many can play 3-4 either. Face it, we just don't have much talent in the front 7 right now. I think we're closer to having 4-3 talent. There we have to get a pass rushing end and hope that Hali does better back at his natural position, then find 2 linebackers. In a 3-4 we have to find at least two lineman including the all too rare anchor in the middle, and two linebackers. We're hoping in both circumstances that some of our recent picks show better. I don't think there's enough FAs out there to fill the holes we have.