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missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:31 PM

Gary Gibbs is the DC
 
I just got off the phone on Late Hits on Sirius Radio.....Ross and Howard said that KC announced today that Gary Gibbs is the DC, and there is no way with the people that we have we can run a 3-4.


I can't find it anywhere on the net. Just reporting what they said.

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 08:32 PM

DEAL IS DONE!

PRINT'EM

brandon 02-18-2009 08:32 PM

Gary F****** Gibbs? Hope this isn't true...

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:33 PM

He said it was announced today, but I can't find it anywhere.

banyon 02-18-2009 08:33 PM

Who?

The Bad Guy 02-18-2009 08:34 PM

Those 2 know shit.

They haven't announced anything.

milkman 02-18-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon (Post 5505385)
Gary F****** Gibbs? Hope this isn't true...

OK fellas, I think this n00b just might fit in.

DJ's left nut 02-18-2009 08:34 PM

The alternative is Clancy F******* Pendergast.

There's no happy ending here, none.

No matter what happens, when the smoke clears it will be either Saints fans or Cardinals fans laughing at us the same way we laughed at the Lions fans for Gunther.

Hurray.

banyon 02-18-2009 08:35 PM

Has Nick Athan called this one yet?

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:35 PM

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milkman 02-18-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5505394)
The alternative is Clancy F******* Pendergast.

There's no happy ending here, none.

No matter what happens, when the smoke clears it will be either Saints fans or Cardinals fans laughing at us the same way we laughed at the Lions fans for Gunther.

Hurray.

We laughed at Lions fans cause they were actually excited about hiring ****her.

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:36 PM

those guys

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 08:36 PM

I take it that the Bee Gee's arent getting back together now?

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:37 PM

Ross Tucker and Howard David were the ones on there tonight

EyePod 02-18-2009 08:37 PM

I'm betting their source was Nick Athan.

MIAdragon 02-18-2009 08:38 PM

From one worthless shitbag to another. JFC.

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:38 PM

I searched PFT, kcchiefs.com, google.....nothing

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5505390)
Those 2 know shit.

They haven't announced anything.

I'm listening (although I don't know why since I can't stand Ross).

I agree with this tho. These guys are clueless.

soundmind 02-18-2009 08:39 PM

It doesn't look promising, but I'd much rather Penderfuck called the actual plays...Gibbs just makes me sad as a DC choice, not the right choice for what's hopefully an aggressive defense.

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:40 PM

Former Sooners' head man Gibbs new DC in KC
Add a Comment February 17, 8:41 PM
by Charles Ward, Oklahoma Sooners Examiner
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Gary Gibbs will be the new defensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs. KC picked him up after his firing from the same position in New Orleans.

OU fans have enjoyed a love-hate relationship with Gibbs. They love him for his standout play on the field and for leading a defense that dominated the Big Eight (and beyond) during his time as a coach and defensive coordinator.

Unfortunately, he's also remembered for his 44-23-2 record as head coach, which is not awful, but proved unacceptable on the heels of Barry Switzer. Gibbs also had to deal with the NCAA and other off-field troubles that saddled the Sooners in the late 1980s and 1990s.

Despite what one thinks of his head coaching tenure, it's becoming about time that OU and GG kissed and made up, and his accomplishments as a player and assistant coach are appreciated by the Sooner Nation. It would be a nice story for him to find success with the Chiefs.

found this....

brandon 02-18-2009 08:41 PM

Gibbs' wiki says he is "possibly" the d-cordinator, with the source being WPI!

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon (Post 5505425)
Gibbs' wiki says he is "possibly" the d-cordinator, with the source being WPI!

ROFL

MIAdragon 02-18-2009 08:42 PM

link?

RINGLEADER 02-18-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5505422)
It doesn't look promising, but I'd much rather Penderfuck called the actual plays...Gibbs just makes me sad as a DC choice, not the right choice for what's hopefully an aggressive defense.

Is it too late to get Gunther back? :rolleyes:

Mecca 02-18-2009 08:42 PM

I'm pretty sure that with the people we have now there's no way we can play a 4-3 either, we need alot of new players regardless so whatever scheme they prefer to run they should just go with from the start.

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505439)
I'm pretty sure that with the people we have now there's no way we can play a 4-3 either, we need alot of new players regardless so whatever scheme they prefer to run they should just go with from the start.

Probably depends on the players we get this offseason, whether it will be 3-4 or hybrid.

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 08:45 PM

Checked this site as well and still nothing...

http://www.beegeesonline.com/site/frame.html

Mecca 02-18-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505445)
Probably depends on the players we get this offseason, whether it will be 3-4 or hybrid.

I just think people need to get over this idea that we can win 7 games next year, there are to many people that seem to think it's possible and want to do that.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-18-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505439)
I'm pretty sure that with the people we have now there's no way we can play a 4-3 either, we need alot of new players regardless so whatever scheme they prefer to run they should just go with from the start.

Yep, the team just came off a ten sack season and was gashed by the run all year as well. To say that they don't have the personnel for the 3-4 is kind of silly when they were so bad under the 4-3.

Alphonso Boone played a ton of snaps at defensive end last year...enough said!

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505451)
I just think people need to get over this idea that we can win 7 games next year, there are to many people that seem to think it's possible and want to do that.

We can be hopeful, though right?

At least we got rid of Herm & Carl.

That's step 1.

What I'm really interested in is how much of our record / "talent" has been coaching / outdated scheme?

Flustrated 02-18-2009 08:50 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gibbs

Pasta Little Brioni 02-18-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505463)
We can be hopeful, though right?

At least we got rid of Herm & Carl.

That's step 1.

What I'm really interested in is how much of our record / "talent" has been coaching / outdated scheme?

Lack of talent + bad coaching = 6-26

Mecca 02-18-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505463)
We can be hopeful, though right?

At least we got rid of Herm & Carl.

That's step 1.

What I'm really interested in is how much of our record / "talent" has been coaching / outdated scheme?

The schedule difficulty jumps significantly next year...so that factors in.

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505417)
These guys are clueless.

Case in point: anyone still listening?

Ross just said he would take Crabtree #1 overall if he's Detroit.

missinDThomas 02-18-2009 08:54 PM

nice

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505485)
Case in point: anyone still listening?

Ross just said he would take Crabtree #1 overall if he's Detroit.

Yeah because taking WR's that has works out so well!

That would cause Detriot fans to implode...

Mecca 02-18-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5505485)
Case in point: anyone still listening?

Ross just said he would take Crabtree #1 overall if he's Detroit.

I really don't know why people think like this of Crabtree, if they'd sit down and watch full games of him and not just highlight vids it becomes immediately obvious he is not a dominant elite prospect.

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505494)
I really don't know why people think like this of Crabtree, if they'd sit down and watch full games of him and not just highlight vids it becomes immediately obvious he is not a dominant elite prospect.

Because people watch ESPN and others and like lemmings they just repeat what they hear as fact...

Mecca 02-18-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5505501)
Because people watch ESPN and others and like lemmings they just repeat what they hear as fact...

I could pretty easily argue that Maclins a better prospect than Crabtree is.

brandon 02-18-2009 09:00 PM

Surely you'd think the official announcements would come tomorrow or Friday with the Combine as close as it is..

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505479)
The schedule difficulty jumps significantly next year...so that factors in.

Good point, I had forgotten the other divisions we play next year.

But also consider our divisonal games.

Will Arrowhead be packed again from this offseason? Maybe that helps us with more home divisional games...

Raiders? Gimme a break, with Davis still running the show...
Broncos? I'll take my chances with Pioli vs. their young unproven guy promoted from within...
Chargers? They do have more talent hands down...

I think it really depends on how much we overhaul the roster this offseason and / or customize our schemes to take advantage of our players' strengths (something that hasn't been done in quite some time...)

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 09:00 PM

I love Gary's Hair....

Do we get Disco Sundays at Arrowhead now?

http://gracedavis.typepad.com/photos...rry_gibb_2.jpg

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon (Post 5505507)
Surely you'd think the official announcements would come tomorrow or Friday with the Combine as close as it is..

Honestly?

I doubt it. They just said "at a later date". I think they're holding out on word from more coaches until they release the assignments. Crennel, maybe?

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505504)
I could pretty easily argue that Maclins a better prospect than Crabtree is.

True, but the media isnt sucking off Macklin as much as Crabtree... This is what you call casual fans whom just watch a few games, hear someone say Crabtree is top 3, then they are automatically draft gurus... Hell most of them couldnt even tell you were he played at, who the coach is and what is his QB's name?

But they will go out on google, look all that up and come back a few posts later with their new guru knowledge.

ChiefRon 02-18-2009 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505504)
I could pretty easily argue that Maclins a better prospect than Crabtree is.

I agree, it wouldn't be hard.

Mecca 02-18-2009 09:06 PM

Watch this...

Maclin is elite at 2 things, speed and returning, what is Crabtree elite at?

KcMizzou 02-18-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505504)
I could pretty easily argue that Maclins a better prospect than Crabtree is.

I'd take Maclin over Crabtree. (Obvious bias aside.)

Still, I wouldn't take either at #3.

LocoChiefsFan 02-18-2009 09:11 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...g_staff_moves/

Kansas City Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Moves
Feb 17, 2009, 5:17:14 PM


The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Tuesday that the club has made several additions to head coach Todd Haley’s coaching staff. The following coaches have been retained by the Chiefs: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith. The following assistant coaches are joining the Chiefs staff:

Joel Collier – Collier owns 17 seasons of experience coaching in the professional ranks. He most recently enjoyed a three-year stint with New England (2005-07). Prior to joining the Patriots, he spent 11 seasons with Miami (’94-04). Collier served his first tour of duty with New England from ‘91-93, spending time on the coaching staff and as a pro scout. He began his NFL career as an offensive assistant with Tampa Bay (’90) after serving as a graduate assistant at Syracuse (’88-89).

Gary Gibbs – A 29-year coaching veteran, Gibbs most recently served a three-year stint as defensive coordinator with New Orleans (2006-08). He entered the NFL ranks as linebackers coach with Dallas (2002-05). Gibbs broke into the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, as a graduate assistant in ‘75 and was eventually promoted to linebackers coach (’78-80), defensive coordinator (’81-88) and head coach (’89-94) He also served as defensive coordinator at Georgia (2000) and LSU (2001).

Steve Hoffman – Hoffman owns 19 years of NFL coaching experience. He most recently spent a two-year tour with Miami as kicking coach (2008) and assistant special teams coach (2007). He served as assistant special teams coach with the Atlanta (2006) after a 16-year association with Dallas (’89-04), where he served as kicking coach (’89-98) and kicking/defensive quality control coach (’99-04). He began his coaching career at the University of Miami (’85-87).

Bill Muir – Muir is a veteran of 31 NFL seasons and owns a total of 44 seasons of coaching experience. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). He began his NFL career in the player personnel department with Tampa Bay (’78-81). He coached collegiately at SMU (’76-77), Idaho State (’72-73), Rhode Island (’70-71), Delaware Valley (’66-67) and Susquehanna (’65). The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport (’74-75) of the World Football League.

Clancy Pendergast – Pendergast owns 14 seasons of experience in the NFL coaching ranks. He spent the past five campaigns as a defensive coordinator with Arizona (2004-08). Prior to guiding the Cardinals defensive unit, Pendergast spent one season with Cleveland (2003) after enjoying a seven-year tenure with Dallas (’96-02). He began his NFL coaching career with Houston (’95). He began his coaching career in the collegiate ranks as a graduate assistant with Mississippi State (’91) and enjoyed stops at Southern California (’92), Oklahoma (’93-94) and Alabama-Birmingham (’95). Pendergast graduated from the University of Arizona in ‘90.

Pat Perles – Perles owns 21 years of coaching experience, including two years in the NFL. He spent the previous six seasons at North Dakota State (2003-08), including the final four campaigns as the offensive coordinator. Perles previously served as the offensive line coach at his alma mater of Michigan State (2000-02). He spent six seasons in the Canadian Football League with Hamilton (’98-99), Winnipeg (’97) and Saskatchewan (’94-96). He began his NFL coaching career with the L.A. Rams (’92-93) after working as the defensive line coach for three years with Toledo (’89-91).

Dedric Ward – Ward spent the past two seasons as a member of Arizona Cardinals offensive coaching staff along with current Chiefs head coach Todd Haley. In 2007, Ward served as a quality control coach, working intensely with the Cardinals wide receivers. In 2008, the Cedar Rapids, Iowa native entered his second season as a quality control coach, working closely with the club’s running backs. Ward began his coaching career as wide receivers coach at Missouri State University in 2006.

Skip Towne 02-18-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5505392)
OK fellas, I think this n00b just might fit in.

Isn't that n00b 60 years old?

Mecca 02-18-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5505538)
I'd take Maclin over Crabtree. (Obvious bias aside.)

Still, I wouldn't take either at #3.

Is it gonna hurt when he's on the Raiders cause I think that's where he's going.

KcMizzou 02-18-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505558)
Is it gonna hurt when he's on the Raiders cause I think that's where he's going.

Ugh... please, no.

Fritz88 02-18-2009 09:13 PM

I think he's the best choice amongst the ones we have right now.

I am really hoping that we will have an explosive offense that will offset our crappy D.


Whatever, I think if we continue with a crappy D we will be no where.

Fritz88 02-18-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505533)
Watch this...

Maclin is elite at 2 things, speed and returning, what is Crabtree elite at?

being a good wideout?

I will jizz if we take him, at least he's someone you can count on being good.

Mecca 02-18-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5505568)
being a good wideout?

I will jizz if we take him, at least he's someone you can count on being good.

They're both from the spread...Crabtree doesn't stand out any more than Maclin does at the WR position...

I question if Crabtree will separate Maclin I know can.

soundmind 02-18-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5505562)
I think he's the best choice amongst the ones we have right now.

I am really hoping that we will have an explosive offense that will offset our crappy D.


Whatever, I think if we continue with a crappy D we will be no where.

You need two things at minimum: Defense and the ability to score. You can't offset a crappy D, b/c they'll let you down when it's on the line. I'm praying these guys prove better than whats on paper, and we get some talent in here in a hurry.

milkman 02-18-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5505557)
Isn't that n00b 60 years old?

How the hell would I know how old brandon is?

KcMizzou 02-18-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5505595)
How the hell would I know how old brandon is?

Huh?

Edit: I'm 34.

Fritz88 02-18-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5505585)
You need two things at minimum: Defense and the ability to score. You can't offset a crappy D, b/c they'll let you down when it's on the line. I'm praying these guys prove better than whats on paper, and we get some talent in here in a hurry.

That's what we get for waiting over a month to appoint a HC.

I was really wanting to get Rex Ryan but now he's in the Jets and he's going to kick major butts.

brandon 02-18-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5505595)
How the hell would I know how old brandon is?

Whatz a n00b? lolz

KcMizzou 02-18-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon (Post 5505603)
Whatz a n00b? lolz

Ah, nice name.

-King- 02-18-2009 09:27 PM

Despite the additions of Gary Gibbs and Clancy Pendergast to their coaching staff, ESPN's John Clayton suggests that the Chiefs could still hire Romeo Crennel to coordinate their defense.

Crennel known GM Scott Pioli well and would bring a strict 3-4 defense to Kansas City. It's uncertain if the 61-year-old wants the job, however.
Source: ESPN Insider

blueballs 02-18-2009 09:28 PM

Good players make DCs look good
repeat it three times and throw salt over your left shoulder
Pioli you're up at bat

soundmind 02-18-2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5505602)
That's what we get for waiting over a month to appoint a HC.

I was really wanting to get Rex Ryan but now he's in the Jets and he's going to kick major butts.

I wanted Rex too, but I don't hate the hiring of Haley just yet, I love Ryan in the HC job, he'll do extremely well I think. Just to hear him talk about it, it's as though he's made for it.

DaWolf 02-18-2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 5505602)
That's what we get for waiting over a month to appoint a HC.

I was really wanting to get Rex Ryan but now he's in the Jets and he's going to kick major butts.

I have serious doubts about Rex Ryan as a head coach. I think he is a loudmouth and also was more a product of what giving a coach great players can do than anything. That's how Nolan and Lewis landed HC jobs as well, and neither of them turned into a great head coach...

Mr. Flopnuts 02-18-2009 10:20 PM

This is a mother****in train wreck.

DJ's left nut 02-18-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5505614)
Despite the additions of Gary Gibbs and Clancy Pendergast to their coaching staff, ESPN's John Clayton suggests that the Chiefs could still hire Romeo Crennel to coordinate their defense.

Crennel known GM Scott Pioli well and would bring a strict 3-4 defense to Kansas City. It's uncertain if the 61-year-old wants the job, however.
Source: ESPN Insider

I'm holding out hope this is why no positions have been announced yet.

We're just waiting to get Crennel and slot the two retread failures into their rightful role as position coaches. No sense in announcing either one as DC only to 'demote' them after you snag Crennel.

I'm also hoping that Thigpen grows 5 inches in the offseason and realizes that he can throw far more accurately with his left arm than his right.

I think both scenarios are equally likely.

chiefzilla1501 02-18-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5505792)
I have serious doubts about Rex Ryan as a head coach. I think he is a loudmouth and also was more a product of what giving a coach great players can do than anything. That's how Nolan and Lewis landed HC jobs as well, and neither of them turned into a great head coach...

Agreed. There are a lot of people who feel that way too. The only guy that I regret not hiring is Spagnuolo. But I have no problem with Haley.

Ralphy Boy 02-18-2009 10:33 PM

I love all the speculation about our conversion to a 3-4. Didn't both of these coaches field a 4-3 last year? Which one of the defensive assistants that we hired has fielded a 3-4?

For the record, wikipedia also says "Pendergast was hired by the Kansas City Chiefs possibly as defensive coordinator"

Comparing the defense that both Gibbs and Pendergast fielded over the last few years, based on total yards:
NO finished 23rd in 2008, 26 in 2007 and 11 in 2006
Arizona finished 19 in 08, 17 in 07 and 29 in 06.

Pendergast has clearly fielded a better defense.
How a head coach could give the DC job to the one with a worse record is beyond me.

chiefzilla1501 02-18-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5505872)
I'm holding out hope this is why no positions have been announced yet.

We're just waiting to get Crennel and slot the two retread failures into their rightful role as position coaches. No sense in announcing either one as DC only to 'demote' them after you snag Crennel.

I'm also hoping that Thigpen grows 5 inches in the offseason and realizes that he can throw far more accurately with his left arm than his right.

I think both scenarios are equally likely.

I'm not overly excited about either of these guys as coordinators too, but you have to wonder if this might just be Pioli's way of saying 'we'll wait until next year and grab the cream of the crop and have an experienced playcaller to call plays for 2009 as a stopgap.' "

If we want to use the overused cliche of "the Patriot Way", recall that a few years ago the Pats ran an offense without having a true offensive coordinator.

FAX 02-18-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5505614)
... Crennel known GM Scott Pioli well and would bring a strict 3-4 defense to Kansas City. ... Source: ESPN Insider

ESPN Insider thumbing their nose at the grammar police again.

Good to see.

FAX

The Buddha 02-18-2009 11:01 PM

How does Glenn Dorsey fit into a 3-4? Or is he not a big deal?

Manila-Chief 02-19-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Buddha (Post 5506059)
How does Glenn Dorsey fit into a 3-4? Or is he not a big deal?

I found it interesting that in Adam Teicher's interview, Haley said Dorsey has talent and could play either 3-4 or 4-3.

I've just logged on and know it has already been discussed but I found it funny that Haley has not decided who will be DC. Could go either way and may depend upon the talent. So, much for that Adam S. guy's intell!!!!

tooge 02-19-2009 08:19 AM

Is he the one with the big teeth that sings the "ha ha ha ha stayin alive" part, or the little guy with the friar tuch hair that nobody knows?

MOhillbilly 02-19-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5505618)
Good players make DCs look good
repeat it three times and throw salt over your left shoulder
Pioli you're up at bat

what you wrote is the only thing that matters.

MOhillbilly 02-19-2009 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5505821)
This is a mother****in train wreck.

better get used to it for atleast the next 3 years.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-19-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5505792)
I have serious doubts about Rex Ryan as a head coach. I think he is a loudmouth and also was more a product of what giving a coach great players can do than anything. That's how Nolan and Lewis landed HC jobs as well, and neither of them turned into a great head coach...

You mean, like Haley? I am not saying that Haley won't be good... I am growing to like him.

However, he is a loudmouth and a product of coaching great players.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-19-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 5505893)
I love all the speculation about our conversion to a 3-4. Didn't both of these coaches field a 4-3 last year? Which one of the defensive assistants that we hired has fielded a 3-4?

For the record, wikipedia also says "Pendergast was hired by the Kansas City Chiefs possibly as defensive coordinator"

Comparing the defense that both Gibbs and Pendergast fielded over the last few years, based on total yards:
NO finished 23rd in 2008, 26 in 2007 and 11 in 2006
Arizona finished 19 in 08, 17 in 07 and 29 in 06.

Pendergast has clearly fielded a better defense.
How a head coach could give the DC job to the one with a worse record is beyond me.

For the record, Wikipedia is not the best source.

Gibbs has more coaching experience. Gibbs also has experience with the 3-4.

I would prefer Pendergrass personally, but Haley appears to value experience.


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