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BigRock 02-24-2009 04:59 PM

Pat Surtain: 2005-2009
 
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/24/chie...n-who-is-next/

Quote:

Kansas City remade its front office, its coaching staff and now it gets to work on its roster. One of the first of those significant moves came Tuesday, when the Chiefs cut veteran CB Patrick Surtain.

The move removed Surtain’s $7 million base salary off Kansas City’s books and instantly freed up $6.184 million that the Chiefs will now be able to spend on free agents and draft picks. The 32-year-old Surtain is not expected to be the last Chiefs player released before Friday. Veteran LB Donnie Edwards could also be in jeopardy, as he is scheduled to make $5 million in base salary. If he is released, it would free up another $4.5 million in salary-cap savings.

It’s the time of the year when the size of the free-agent pool grows by the day. It happened Tuesday in Kansas City, and it will happen again Wednesday and Thursday in other cities.

Marco Polo 02-24-2009 05:02 PM

I remember exactly where I was when I first got the news we traded for him. I was so excited because I thought he was one of the final pieces to the puzzle. Boy was I wrong.

The Bad Guy 02-24-2009 05:02 PM

He was pretty awful, and I'm glad he's gone.

Another aging veteran that CP handed over a draft pick for, along with the richest contract in franchise history at the time.

The defining moment for Surtain was when he was basically running in quick sand after that INT during the Chargers game.

MTG#10 02-24-2009 05:03 PM

Surtain played pretty well for the majority of his time here. He wasnt "awful" until last season.

doomy3 02-24-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 5523655)
I remember exactly where I was when I first got the news we traded for him. I was so excited because I thought he was one of the final pieces to the puzzle. Boy was I wrong.

yep, me too

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2009 05:05 PM

He will not be missed.

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 05:06 PM

Another terrible Carl failure.

Surtain made an ABSURD amount of money as a Chief.

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5523658)
Surtain played pretty well for the majority of his time here. He wasnt "awful" until last season.

He didn't come close to living up to his contract.

Maybe if the bastard hadn't dropped an interception in Dallas the 2005 Chiefs would have won the Super Bowl.

Instead he played like a corner without a $14 million dollar signing bonus.

FAX 02-24-2009 05:09 PM

Man. I can't say I'm sorry to see him go.

Surtain didn't just lose a step, he misplaced the whole damn ladder.

FAX

The Franchise 02-24-2009 05:11 PM

How awesome is that? If we release Donnie Edwards after this then we'll have added almost $11 million to our salary cap.

BigChiefFan 02-24-2009 05:11 PM

Decent, but we we're a day late and a dollar short. Surtain could have learned a thing or two from Hasty about giving your all. Surtain got soft and it's time for someone hungry to make a name for themselves in his place.

The Bad Guy 02-24-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5523658)
Surtain played pretty well for the majority of his time here. He wasnt "awful" until last season.

You obviously have a different view of "pretty well" than I do.

MTG#10 02-24-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5523675)
He didn't come close to living up to his contract.

Maybe if the bastard hadn't dropped an interception in Dallas the 2005 Chiefs would have won the Super Bowl.

Instead he played like a corner without a $14 million dollar signing bonus.

I didnt say he lived up to his contract, I said he played pretty well the majority of the time he was here. I guess anyone would have looked good to me after getting used to Eric Warfield, William Burntee, and Dexter Mccleon...

Crush 02-24-2009 05:13 PM

Good riddance.

ToxSocks 02-24-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 5523655)
I remember exactly where I was when I first got the news we traded for him. I was so excited because I thought he was one of the final pieces to the puzzle. Boy was I wrong.

Yep. I also remember him getting injured week 1 vs the jets and thinking, "oh nooes, there goes our season"

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5523658)
Surtain played pretty well for the majority of his time here. He wasnt "awful" until last season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 5523696)
I didnt say he lived up to his contract, I said he played pretty well the majority of the time he was here. I guess anyone would have looked good to me after getting used to Eric Warfield, William Burntee, and Dexter Mccleon...

I'd say he had one good season, one average season, and one shitty season.

I don't think that qualifies as "pretty well."

Players the Chiefs could have drafted in 2005 instead of Pat Slowtain:

Mike Nugent (could have solved our kicker problem)
Khalif Barnes (could have solved our RT problem)
Roscoe Parrish (could have solved our KR problem)
Darrent Williams (younger and faster than Surtain, less-apt to get murdered in Kansas City)
Vincent Jackson (jesus christ, imagine VJ next to Bowe)

I could go on about several players picked in the third round, but in short, **** you Carl. One last time!

petegz28 02-24-2009 05:21 PM

Surtain was exposed when he didn't have the Miami pass rush to help him.

unothadeal 02-24-2009 05:24 PM

Didn't he drop a game winning pick 6 in the Dallas game in 05 that would have got us in the playoffs?

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:25 PM

We were taken by the mid 2000's Dolphins
the mid 2000's
ughhhhhhhh

dirk digler 02-24-2009 05:25 PM

The salary cap space doesn't really matter since we are probably at the minimum required anyways.

Good riddance though he never lived up to his billing

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:29 PM

they're going to actually have to work at spending it all

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5523657)
He was pretty awful, and I'm glad he's gone.

Another aging veteran that CP handed over a draft pick for, along with the richest contract in franchise history at the time.

The defining moment for Surtain was when he was basically running in quick sand after that INT during the Chargers game.

True dat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5523688)
How awesome is that? If we release Donnie Edwards after this then we'll have added almost $11 million to our salary cap.

I am surtain that Donnie sails in to the sunset this year. It was a dumb ass move to being him back anyway. He was a good assist-player back in the day, but he was never a game changer.

BigChiefFan 02-24-2009 05:32 PM

Surtain's savings is huge-that's ALOT of money to sign a PREMIER FA with, plus the rest of our cap space, possibly cut Edwards... We can sign ANYBODY we want this year, if we so choose. Bring on FA.

jidar 02-24-2009 05:37 PM

Haha..
Love the monday morning QBing that goes on in this website.
Every player is either HOF worthy or sucks. Every pickup is the dumbest shit ever... 4 years after it happens.

Surtain was at least an above average corner up till last season, that's the truth. Also every person on this site was absolutely ecstatic when got him in free agency, mostly because he was one of the best FAs on the market and but also because Carl played hard ball and got him for less than the Dolphins wanted.

Reading this thread now though, yeah you guys all knew better. Sure.

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 05:38 PM

None of us knew better, that's the point.

Carl was as dumb as the rest of us mother****ers.

And that's why he's gone.

The Franchise 02-24-2009 05:39 PM

Chiefs cut 4 players: Surtain, Edwards, Huard and Merritt
 
I know we have the Surtain thread.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02..._transactions/

The Kansas City Chiefs announced four transactions on Tuesday. The club terminated the contracts of three vested veterans: LB Donnie Edwards, QB Damon Huard and CB Patrick Surtain. The Chiefs also waived TE Michael Merritt.

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:39 PM

NOT HUARD
NOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOO

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 05:40 PM

Also....

Chiefs Announce Four Transactions
Feb 24, 2009, 5:33:07 PM


The Kansas City Chiefs announced four transactions on Tuesday. The club terminated the contracts of three vested veterans: LB Donnie Edwards, QB Damon Huard and CB Patrick Surtain. The Chiefs also waived TE Michael Merritt.

MTG#10 02-24-2009 05:40 PM

NO MORE HUTARD!!! :clap:

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 05:40 PM

I just put this same thing under surtain's thread

keg in kc 02-24-2009 05:40 PM

We need to release a runningback so Edwards has a ride out of town.

rockymtnchief 02-24-2009 05:40 PM

Sorry to see Donnie go, but it is definitely time. The other 3 are no brainers.

The Franchise 02-24-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5523781)
I just put this same thing under surtain's thread

They can be merged.....

DrRyan 02-24-2009 05:42 PM

Merritt. That was a draft pick well spent. Here's to hoping Pioli gets off the "wasting picks on TEs" train.

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:42 PM

this thread title
is FAR to important
to merge

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:43 PM

Brodie is being kept
how long

ChiefsCountry 02-24-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 5523789)
Merritt. That was a draft pick well spent. Here's to hoping Pioli gets off the "wasting picks on TEs" train.

A 7th round flyer pick is not that big of a deal.

DaKCMan AP 02-24-2009 05:44 PM

Somewhere Hootie is sobbing..

MTG#10 02-24-2009 05:45 PM

Thank God we never have to see Hutard curl up in the fetal position and take a sack again. This made my day.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by missinDThomas (Post 5523778)
Also....

Chiefs Announce Four Transactions
Feb 24, 2009, 5:33:07 PM


The Kansas City Chiefs announced four transactions on Tuesday. The club terminated the contracts of three vested veterans: LB Donnie Edwards, QB Damon Huard and CB Patrick Surtain. The Chiefs also waived TE Michael Merritt.

KCnut will be MOST displeased....


Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chandler Bing-lookin' mother****er.

OnTheWarpath15 02-24-2009 05:47 PM

Guess I'm using this for the last time.

http://i40.tinypic.com/1z3xt88.jpg

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 5523789)
Merritt. That was a draft pick well spent. Here's to hoping Pioli gets off the "wasting picks on TEs" train.

I imagine that it has just as much to do with his recent off the field trouble.

Not to concerned with a seventh round whiff.

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:48 PM

GoChiefs is working
on the highlight film

BigChiefFan 02-24-2009 05:49 PM

Wow. I would say they've done some good evaluating so far. Nice job!

MIAdragon 02-24-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5523793)
Brodie is being kept
how long

You cant really crush a man when he’s laid up in the hospital

SenselessChiefsFan 02-24-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5523793)
Brodie is being kept
how long

Probably through training camp.

aturnis 02-24-2009 05:50 PM

I guess I would have liked to see how well Merritt could block. Would be nice to have a Jason Dunn part deux.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5523802)


Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chandler Bing-lookin' mother****er.

no shit....i have always said that ROFL

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:51 PM

KCNUT
is Donnie Edwards
I thought everyone knew

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 05:51 PM

Who will help me carry him.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5488/gladj.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5523782)
We need to release a runningback so Edwards has a ride out of town.

This.


Sweet Virginia; NO MORE Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaard! Thank God.

BigChiefFan 02-24-2009 05:52 PM

Yea, we can't go through the off-season without at least having a few players there. I'm positive we are looking to replace Croyle, but we have nothing to lose by at least giving him one more shot. Croyle might hang on to being our number 3 QB.

missinDThomas 02-24-2009 05:53 PM

I wonder how much more cap space the 4 of them will make?

Kansas City Chiefs, as expected, have parted ways with veteran cornerback Patrick Surtain.

The move, as reported by Adam Schefter of NFL Network, frees up $6.18 million in cap space.

Next up could be linebacker Donnie Edwards; cutting him would create $4.5 million in 2009 cap room.

Given the team’s existing cap surplus, new G.M. Scott Pioli will have plenty of money to spend, if he so chooses, when free agency launches.

there is 2 of them.....that should put us close to $50 mil under right?

chiefzilla1501 02-24-2009 05:54 PM

Since I'm sure people will be lining up to rip into Huard, let me be the first not to.

Huard was a terrific back-up. He shouldn't have been a starter. And if he had a good offensive line, I think he could have been a pretty effective QB.

I wish him nothing but the best. He was the definition of class when Trent Green came back. He never once complained when Brodie took his job. From what I know, he never hesitated to help a young QB out.

He deserves to be cut, but I appreciate his contribution to the Chiefs. I don't feel that same way about Surtain.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5523820)
Yea, we can't go through the off-season without at least having a few players there. I'm positive we are looking to replace Croyle, but we have nothing to lose by at least giving him one more shot. Croyle might hang on to being our number 3 QB.

He's in league with Lucifer;
BURRRRRRRRNNN HIM!!!!!

The Franchise 02-24-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5523824)
Since I'm sure people will be lining up to rip into Huard, let me be the first not to.

Huard was a terrific back-up. He shouldn't have been a starter. And if he had a good offensive line, I think he could have been a pretty effective QB.

I wish him nothing but the best. He was the definition of class when Trent Green came back. He never once complained when Brodie took his job. From what I know, he never hesitated to help a young QB out.

He deserves to be cut, but I appreciate his contribution to the Chiefs. I don't feel that same way about Surtain.

What? I'm glad that Hutard is gone. I've never seen one guy go out multiple times....throw an INT for a TD and then be injured so he didn't have to play. Good ****ing riddance.

PastorMikH 02-24-2009 05:58 PM

Huard????


ON NO! WE'RE DOOOOMED!!!!

blueballs 02-24-2009 05:59 PM

Huard should have retired a year earlier
but was handsomely paid -fair game

BigChiefFan 02-24-2009 05:59 PM

Huard should have NEVER been penciled as the starter. NEVER.

I found this tidbit from USA Today...

Also granted is the fact Huard is paid well for his services. He signed a three-year contract in 2007 that will average $2.5 million per season.

blueballs 02-24-2009 06:02 PM

Huard in KC won't catch near the flak
Favre in NY will
and rightfully so

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2009 06:02 PM

Ha-ha...Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/76d0b900.png

FAX 02-24-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5523782)
We need to release a runningback so Edwards has a ride out of town.

ROFL

Awesome.

FAX

chiefzilla1501 02-24-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5523828)
What? I'm glad that Hutard is gone. I've never seen one guy go out multiple times....throw an INT for a TD and then be injured so he didn't have to play. Good ****ing riddance.

He was getting clocked because our offensive line was a swinging gate--Trent Green also went from borderline pro bowler to ineffective behind the same line. And he got injured because he was getting knocked on his ass way more often than a QB should.

Not to mention that he was a backup QB thrown into a starting role--he was never supposed to be a guy who could lead your team to the playoffs. He was supposed to be a veteran who came off the bench and helped the team get a win or two when your starter is out for some period of time. Huard played that role admirably.

I don't understand why Chiefs' fans have become so ridiculously brutal to their own players. It's not like Surtain, who came in, made a shitload of money, and was expected to be a difference maker. Huard was supposed to be a backup and he played that role very well.

stevieray 02-24-2009 06:07 PM

dead weight...

Buck 02-24-2009 06:07 PM

Goatse, Damon Huard tribute video, NOW!

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5523854)
Goatse, Damon Huard tribute video, NOW!

Youtube took it down remember?

the Talking Can 02-24-2009 06:15 PM

AMERICA!

**** YEAH!


love it

DeezNutz 02-24-2009 06:15 PM

Guess the Edwards departure all but locks up the Curry selection.

We'll have to think about Sanchez in the 4th.

BigRock 02-24-2009 06:17 PM

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4056/funerallv3.jpghttp://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1740/damonhuard.jpghttp://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9553/funeral2dh1.jpg

AMAZING DAME
HOW SWEET THE SOUND
THAT SAVED A WRETCH LIKE MEEEEEEE

I ONCE WAS LOST
BUT NOW I'M FOUND
BLIND BUT NOW I SEEEEEEE

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3...580cropped.jpg

(lone tear)
(fin)

dirk digler 02-24-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 5523853)
dead weight...

Yep

Frazod 02-24-2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5523815)

Is that for Huard or Croyle? :D

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5523928)
Is that for Huard or Croyle? :D

HE WAS A SOLDIER OF ROME.

HONOR HIM.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...fnex8/610x.jpg

Oregon chief 02-24-2009 06:52 PM

Does anyone know about how much cap space we are going to have?

DeezNutz 02-24-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5523928)
Is that for Huard or Croyle? :D

ROFL

Frazod 02-24-2009 06:53 PM

Huard's release is good, and necessary, but I never got off on hating him. He sure picked a bad time to join the team.

Good moves all around. :thumb:

Hammock Parties 02-24-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5523942)
Huard's release is good

He always had a good release. Part of his outstanding game.

Quote:

Good moves all around.
Yes he WAS elusive against the rush at times. Not a scrambler, but a sneaky move in the pocket type QB.

HOF? Maybe.

doomy3 02-24-2009 06:55 PM

Awesome. Bye Huard.

DeezNutz 02-24-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5523942)
Huard's release is good, and necessary, but I never got off on hating him. He sure picked a bad time to join the team.

Good moves all around. :thumb:

Damn, you must have had other outlets for your rage on Sunday.

Croyle was always in a cast, so he didn't get enough air time for me to cuss him, but every time Huard took the fetal, look the **** out...

Bearcat 02-24-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5523782)
We need to release a runningback so Edwards has a ride out of town.

LMAOROFLLMAOROFL

CupidStunt 02-24-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon chief (Post 5523936)
Does anyone know about how much cap space we are going to have?

Enough to sign any FA(s) in the league and outbid any team that also covets said FA(s).


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