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Coltman 02-26-2009 07:37 AM

I think the most interesting pick in this draft
 
will be what the Chiefs do in round 2. We have the 34 pick (I think). The Chiefs may trade the number 3 for additional picks or take someone at that pick. However, we could get a very good player with our number 2. Any thoughts on who that might be? We need so much help and this year's draft will be Pioli and Haley's first as Chiefs so a lot of pressure to do it right. Any thoughts are appreci:rolleyes:ated.

KCUnited 02-26-2009 07:41 AM

So the Chiefs may trade the number 3 pick for additional picks or they may take someone at that pick? Hmmm.

Consistent1 02-26-2009 07:47 AM

That second pick will be key this year, as they all will be. All the help we can get, huh? There will still be some potential big time players there at that point.

Bill Lundberg 02-26-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 5528577)
So the Chiefs may trade the number 3 pick for additional picks or they may take someone at that pick? Hmmm.

That's a Nick Athan comment if I've ever heard one

Coogs 02-26-2009 09:28 AM

I'm thinking we should go OT in both the first round and second round. Then we could move Albert back to guard where he played in college. :)

tyton75 02-26-2009 09:29 AM

I'm thinking we take an OT in the 2nd round.. just cause we need one and it should be deep in this draft..

Jilly 02-26-2009 09:46 AM

I'm going with my philosophy. You draft the best player, regardless of position.

Coogs 02-26-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilly (Post 5528782)
I'm going with my philosophy. You draft the best player, regardless of position.

So you would be OK with the double OT selections if that happens to be the best player available when we pick?

Frankie 02-26-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 5528577)
So the Chiefs may trade the number 3 pick for additional picks or they may take someone at that pick? Hmmm.

I think they might also trade the number 3 pick for additional picks or they may take someone at that pick.

Frankie 02-26-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 5528733)
I'm thinking we take an OT in the 2nd round.. just cause we need one and it should be deep in this draft..

Oher.

Jilly 02-26-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5528811)
So you would be OK with the double OT selections if that happens to be the best player available when we pick?

I think when you get to round two, the best player available can be any number of guys and the likelihood of it being an OT is pretty slim, my feeling on it is if you're choosing between a mediocre/better than average LB, because that's what you need or a kick ass OT that you may or may not need...you go with the OT. That's just my opinion, and it could possibly be wrong. But I'd rather have players that have the potential to be great now, rather then waiting 5 years for them to develop and then them not even fitting the O or D that we may be running by then.

eazyb81 02-26-2009 10:02 AM

We're going to load up on defense this year.

I doubt we have many guys on that side of the ball that are the type of guys that Pioli typically looks for.

CaliforniaChief 02-26-2009 10:05 AM

I don't know who we're going to pick, but it's nice to finally have hit a good player in round 2 with Flowers...previous to that our second round history has been abysmal. And yes, that includes Pollard. You don't draft a special-teams stud in the 2nd round.

Coogs 02-26-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilly (Post 5528849)
I think when you get to round two, the best player available can be any number of guys and the likelihood of it being an OT is pretty slim, my feeling on it is if you're choosing between a mediocre/better than average LB, because that's what you need or a kick ass OT that you may or may not need...you go with the OT. That's just my opinion, and it could possibly be wrong. But I'd rather have players that have the potential to be great now, rather then waiting 5 years for them to develop and then them not even fitting the O or D that we may be running by then.

I was just funning with you! :)

Jilly 02-26-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5529057)
I was just funning with you! :)

Every now and then I like to come play with the boys in the big boy threads.

Coogs 02-26-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jilly (Post 5529089)
Every now and then I like to come play with the boys in the big boy threads.

And you bring a lot more to the table than most of the big boys as well! :toast:

El Jefe 02-26-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5529109)
And you bring a lot more to the table than most of the big boys as well! :toast:


Yeah like that Coogs, man that guy is horrible...... :)

Mr. Laz 02-26-2009 11:05 AM

Oline or DE in rd 2 imo

not because we should reach, but because i think someone from that position will drop too us.

i think there a several very good centers that are that in RD 2 for us like Mack or Unger.

a few DE's that aren't quite ready for the 1st round could be there too like Larry English or Connor Barwin.

Coogs 02-26-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 5529176)
Yeah like that Coogs, man that guy is horrible...... :)

No doubt! But I keep posting anyway! :shrug:

blueballs 02-26-2009 11:23 AM

People just can't get past the #3 overall
they're dogknotted

shammus 02-26-2009 12:15 PM

I think there will be a lot of good value at the #34 spot. Our #3 pick isn't a good one for getting decent value (unless we come away with Stafford somehow) because a lot of the players available are more for the 8-15 range.

I don't think we shoot for any particular position here but obviously we want to keep our needs in mind. There will be a few borderline 1st round picks that slip to this spot as well so we should come away with an impact player that's solid value.

Guys l like that might fall or otherwise be there when we're picking at #34 -

DE - Michael Johnson, Connor Barwin, Larry English
DT - Fili Moala, Ziggy Hood, Tyson Jackson
OT - Eben Britton, Will Beatty
C - Max Unger or Alex Mack
G - Duke Robinson
LB - Clint Sintim

cabletech94 02-26-2009 08:24 PM

Here's my "assclown moment":

I guarentee that we (the chiefs) will draft offensive AND defensive players in this draft.

Write it down.

Championship.

Print 'Em!!!!!!

Frankie 02-26-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 5531439)
Here's my "assclown moment":

I guarentee that we (the chiefs) will draft offensive AND defensive players in this draft.

Write it down.

Championship.

Print 'Em!!!!!!

n00bs with oly 230 posts have not yet earned the right to post lame stuff. You have been duly warned, sir.

sportsman1 02-26-2009 11:04 PM

It is truly stupid to speculate on a second pick. It depends on so many things, that wont happen until the second round. It's halfway ridiculous speculating on a first rd pick. I have faith that Pioli will address our needs from the best talent in the draft pool.

beach tribe 02-26-2009 11:10 PM

Alex Mack would be nice. Duke Robinson.

I'd like a QB at three, and some good O-lineman in rnds 2, and on. Maybe a FA LB or two.

And load up on D next off-season.

Rigodan 02-26-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5529201)
Oline or DE in rd 2 imo

not because we should reach, but because i think someone from that position will drop too us.

i think there a several very good centers that are that in RD 2 for us like Mack or Unger.

a few DE's that aren't quite ready for the 1st round could be there too like Larry English or Connor Barwin.

I'm hoping we avaoid taking a center with our 2nd. This years center class is pretty deep at the top so one of those guys will probably still be there in the third when we draft. I do think center needs a big upgrade though.

kcbubb 02-27-2009 09:26 AM

Michael Johnson DE Wake Forest would be my pick. I like the fact that Chan Gailey coached him in college. He can play in both the 3-4 and 4-3. More of a pass rusher, so he may be more of a situational player initially. I think he could compliment Turk McBride well bc Turk is more of a run stuffer. And put Michael Johnson in on passing situations and let him chase the QB. The guy has a ton of upside. Didn't play up to potential. But he could be the best pass rusher in the draft and the last time I checked, we need one pretty bad.

Overview

Blessed with rare size, long arms and the burst off the snap to generate an instant pass rush off the edge, Johnson has exciting potential. To this point, however, that's mostly what Johnson has been -- potential. He garnered first-team All-ACC honors as a senior with 17.5 TFL and nine sacks but his play was spotty. A lot of his numbers were amassed against poor competition. Johnson might have a future as a pass-rushing linebacker in the 3-4 scheme so he can use his length and agility in coverage.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...hnson?id=71351


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