FA: What's Left?
 

(FB) Leonard Weaver, 26
(DE) Mike Wright, 27
(DT) Shaun Cody, 26
(LB) Marques Harris, 27
(CB) Leigh Bodden, 27
(KR/PR) Justin Miller, 25

I'd take four of them without blinking.
Wright, Weaver, Harris, and Miller. Justin Miller as a pure returnman could be just what this Special Teams needs. He's dangerous and can provide a much needed spark there.

I'd love to have Weaver... Especially if LJ's going to stay (I think he will).
A good young FB like that can help resurrect him. And Matt Cassel's going to need a solid running game to succeed.

I'm not much of a fan of Shaun Cody, but he could figure in if we do switch over to the 3-4.

Bodden's some kind of CB. We've got two young guys I'm extremely satisfied with, but if they just wanted to get better there...Bodden could help.

The Chiefs still have too many holes to try addressing them all in Free Agency. We're still going to need depth at several positions.

...discuss

What's wrong with Mike Cox?

Khalif Barnes is still out there. Wouldn't mind seeing him at RT.

I'm surprised we haven't targeted Mike Wright. Seems to fit the mold of what we're going after...

Then again, maybe we have. :)

Barnes was terribly ineffective last year.
He was a turnstyle in pass protection.
He's better than what we have there, but still not very good.

Ya I didn't really see much of him. Any chance it was a situation like Tamba's, where he could be fine on the other side but can't compete against the elite talent on that one? Did he usually get beat by speed or pass-rush moves?

your wife said it's too small....


HEY, OH!

(/rimshot)

Mike Cox played a damn fine year at the FB position IMHO, I can't see why they would try to replace him.

How'd Bodden do, guys?

agreed.
I am satisfied with Mike Cox. He was a rookie last year, he is still developing... or do fullbacks not get the opportunity to grow and mature.

stand up Mike Cox! Stand Up Mike Cox!

Mark Tauscher is still available too, if healthy he would be upgrade...

:Lin:

:Lin:

Could it be Pioli is waiting for the second round of FA in a few months? I think more quality per dollar will be available when good teams dump overstock players with some talent.

Not sure what happened with Barnes.
He was a stud his rookie year.

He really struggled last year. Gave up a bunch of sacks.
I think the speed rush is what he struggles most with.

Tauscher blew out his knee late in the year.
I'm wondering if he'll be ready by the time the season opens.

AND... He's 31.

Not sure about that one.

LMAO
Don't know Ocho Cinco.

With changes in the salary cap, teams just aren't "dumping" players in June like they did a decade ago. Nearly every team has either re-signed or cut players for salary cap reasons.

The only guys that could possibly upgrade the Chiefs roster will be cut in August.

The Chiefs aren't doing the old "plug and play". They're trying to actually build a roster.

What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

Signing 3-4 of these guys should take care of that.
It'd also help shore up this roster.

What's up with people on this board and there love of Medicore players? Bernard Pollard, Turk Mcbride, Mike Cox. Mike Cox sucks everyon just thinks he's good cause he played better then the FB the season before cause that guy was a tight end playing fullback.

I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us.

Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far.

Here's the latest take from nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true


Kansas City Chiefs
The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market.

As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams.

I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

Um, why do you think that Mike Cox "sucks"?

Are you completely delusional or do you just appear that way on the internets?

I agree they'll sign more free agents after the draft when they have a better idea of what the roster will look like.

There are players available now who can help this team.

If that was their only reason, they should sign him to a front-loaded LTC. We could give him 10mil signing bonus paid out this year, 15 this year and then 5 for the next 3. 4 years 40 mil, plus we can meet the floor this year and have extra room the next few.

You could even make the salary 15-15-5-5-5-5 so it's a 6 year 60 mil deal. I bet we'll have cap space next season too.

I have a different opinon on something I must be delusional. I'm not the one who talks about Mike Cox like he's T-Rich. Mike Cox was such a great part of the run game last year that they switched the offense in the middle of the season. Mike Cox was basically only good at catching the ball out of the backfield he wasn't that great of a blocker like a T-rich or Laurenzo Neal. I'd sign Heath Evans he's much better then Mike Cox why? Because he can do it all thats the Patriots way.

"Show...Me...The CONTRACT"!!! :D

No, and that's my point.

It could be argued that all they've done thus far is sign scrubs. I'm not sure I'd consider that "building a roster."

And regarding Cassel, if he's not signed to a long-term deal by April 24th, drafting a QB at #3 is still an option.

I wouldn't be shocked if they went that route, knowing that they own Cassel's rights for 2 years.

Cassel helps them compete until the new guy is ready. And if for some reason Cassel turns into Tom Brady v.2, then you have some trade bait.

Don't worry about anything Dane says. He has a habit of showing how smart he is by insulting people who have different opinions than him. The trademark of a true genius.

Believe my friend, BELIEVE! :D

I'm just wondering why they haven't considered any of the 2nd contract players who would be obvious upgrades at their respective positions.

Because the team is rebuilding they will wait to sign guys after the draft when they have a better idea of what the roster will look like. Who all did the Dolphins sign last year? There biggest signing wasn't even signed til the pre-season.

Me too. I thought there would be much more activity at this point. I'm really hoping for some o-line help. Lord knows we need all we can get.

This makes sense.

If those players are even still available then.

I'd think that the Draft would be simpler if you had a couple guys in place who could start or at least compete for starting jobs before April.

I'd rather have fewer positions to look at once I'm on the clock.

He thinks everybody on the team sucks.

I was very disappointed when Ray Willis re-signed in Seattle.
That guy would've been our Day 1 starter at Right Tackle.

When your team only wins 6 games in 2 seasons its probably because your team doesn't have alot of talent.

I agree but maybe Pioli thinks theres guys in the draft that could do just a good of a job or maybe they want to give the rookies from last year another season to see what they have before they sign guys.

Cox was also a rookie. I'm not saying he will be great, but who knew T-Rich was going to be great? I think I saw enough raw talent in MC that I can not dismiss him the way you do.

Hard to envision a rookie outplaying Ray Willis anytime soon.
I think this guy is young enough to give you plenty of service time...
And you can draft a Right Tackle in April if there's one you're fond of.
That way the rook's not under pressure to produce right away.

Make it simple.

Find guys who can contribute and sign them.
Even with the draft we don't have enough picks to fill holes AND add depth.

Which is why I advocated keeping players like Babin and Boiman.

I think Cox is going to be a good FB. Our O-line was so bad, there wasn't much he could do about it. He seems to be a head cracker. I don't think he's the problem at all though.

And you could have also had one of the worst Coach/GM combos in all of professional sports.

Truthiness. I believe some quality coaching could have gotten us 6 wins last season.

That proves my point a shitty coach/gm with not much talent.

And this just shows how much football knowledge you've acquired over the years.

Hopping in with Billay.

ROFL

Why don't you put me on ignore if you don't care what I say?

Because there IS no help.

Haven't you been paying attention?

Bullshit.

Ray Willis would've been a HUGE upgrade at RT.

And there are still players out there who can contribute to this franchise.
Justin Miller would be a great acquisition to this team and would immediately upgrade our returnman spot.

And you have so much football knowledge instead of working in the NFL you share it with all of those on Chiefsplanet?

Oh, one more thing, Sport:

Are you agreeing with Billay that Mike Cox doesn't deserve a roster spot and that he sucks?

Because that's exactly what you're saying by dismissing my comment.

Talk about true genius.

ROFL

DUDE!


He wasn't available. Get it?

Free agency doesn't mean that the player is available to sign with any team UNLESS the player DECIDES he wants to go elsewhere or his team doesn't want to re-sign him.

HE WASN'T AVAILABLE.

I disagree, they signed Smiley early in March.

I'm hoping they're this smart.

Actually I haven't agree with anything he has said. My posts after that say as much. I think Cox is going to be a good FB. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to insult people with opinions that differ from your own, as you you frequently do. It is a sign of weak character.

I said I thought there would be more activity. And ALSO said I hope we get some o-line help. Two different sentences. Both are things I thought, and hope. You are the one not paying attention.

He was an unrestricted free agent.
Completely and totally free to sign with another franchise.
There was little interest so he resigned with Seattle.

That's no reason why this franchise shouldn't have brought him in to at least interview with the team.

He was available and all caps won't make that any less true.

See, no reading comprehension at all. I actually like MC a great deal. the post was about your insults, not about MC.

We're not exactly the Cowboys or Niners or the '90s. We very well might have called, only for him to say he wasn't interested.

Which would effectively make him unavailable to us.

I can tell you that I have enough knowledge of football that I would never claim that Mike Cox sucks.

It doesn't prove your point. You didn't say anything about coaching. You've basically said over the past couple of weeks that every young player on this team sucks. That's just not true.

Does that mean this team is loaded with talent and the coaching was THAT bad? No, not really.

It means that we had MULTIPLE problems, both with coaching and talent. As usual, people are polarized on the argument but the actual answer is somewhere in between.

The team has more talent than the haters want to admit, and less talent than the homers want to admit.

And there's the unknown to all of this.

Were we "active" in the sense of making phone calls, with a lot of "No thanks" as responses?

"But, but, he wasn't available". Maybe you should insult him. That seems to be the only language he understands.

So, calling someone delusional about Mike Cox's football ability is an insult?

Pardon me, Nancy.

I said every young player on this team sucks? No I just said every young player on the D-line sucks and thats the truth.

Apparently, it's far more than you can understand.

That's my guess. Pioli can't possibly think that this roster gives him a chance to win games on a consistent basis.

I dont know whats wrong with either of them, but I can tell you that you should definitely only have one.

Mike Cox is so great they changed the offense in the middle of the season and when they were most effective at running the ball is when they had just a runningback in the backfield.

Or right guard?

FYP

See. Insults. Weak character. You can't discuss, or debate without insulting people.

No, it's not.

Dorsey was playing out of position. McBride was playing out of position. There's two right there that MAY suck, but due to the fact they aren't either playing their natural position CANNOT get any grade other than "incomplete".

You're speculating.

How do YOU know there was little interest? Furthermore, maybe he wanted to stay in Seattle. It's not as if the free-agency period is closed and he had to sign somewhere.

So, it's either:

1. He didn't generate interest because you have him over-rated.
2. He re-signed during the first 10 days of free-agency with Seattle because that's where he wants to live and play.

lol what do you want them to do? If its get after the QB they sure didn't do that. If it's to dominate the line they sure didn't do that.

That's because the D was spread out, and we had running lanes. Mike Cox did fine for a rookie FB. He is not the problem, the o-line is the problem.

And you can't keep up.

Look, I understand that you're a "casual" fan. But if you're going to get involved in threads about free agency and make broad claims such as "I'm surprised we haven't been more active and signed anyone", you'd be better be prepared to list names, researched, etc. like many of us have in the main forum and the draft forum.

And sorry to have hurt your vagina with my words.

Do you understand line play at all?

Dorsey was being asked to play two-gaps, occupy blockers, and free up the LB's. He was asked to do something that is COUNTER-INTUITIVE to rushing the passer.

HE CAN'T DO THAT. Every single one of his scouting reports coming out said he's not good at it. Yet the coaches asked him to do it anyway.

That does not in any way mean he SUCKS. It means he's not good at doing what the coaches asked him to do.

Didnt the whole damn team struggle last year?

Maybe if was due to both the guards being down and the loss of their backup LT (in a most emotional and disturbing manner), Richar Collier.

Think of it as a similar case to that of Javon Walker when he needed to leave Denver for personal reasons. Maybe Barnes was ****ed in the head after that went down. They did play the same position, so it could be possible that he was friends with Collier, and just didnt have it in him last year to play after that.