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MMXcalibur 03-10-2009 08:29 PM

Cutler situation gone from "bad to worse"
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968896

Source: Cutler, Broncos further apart
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By Bill Williamson
ESPN.com
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After a contentious conference call between quarterback Jay Cutler and the Denver Broncos' brass on Monday, the situation has gone "from bad to worse", according to a source close to the situation.

The call was supposed to be a meeting of the minds between Cutler and the Broncos' brass, in particular new head coach Josh McDaniels. The two got sideways Feb. 28 when word broke that McDaniels, the former New England offensive coordinator who replaced Mike Shanahan after 14 seasons, engaged in discussions about acquiring Matt Cassel from the Patriots in a three-way trade. Cutler had maintained the Broncos initiated the talks. McDaniels publicly said he was approached about a deal.

The conference call was anything but genial and the two sides are now further apart than prior to it, the source said. The source said that the Broncos' tone of the conference call was as if Cutler created the situation by asking for the trade and not the other way around.

The source said McDaniels wouldn't confirm or deny whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks. The Broncos did, though, tell Cutler that every player on the team could be traded and he could be traded at any time. Still, Denver owner Pat Bowlen also stated in the conversation that Cutler will not be traded. The Broncos publicly said Cutler will not be traded last week as the Cutler trade frenzy was in full force.

After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term. The source maintains Cutler was totally on board with McDaniels until the trade talks story broke and that trust is Cutler's biggest problem with McDaniels and the organization.

The source said Cutler is still mulling over whether he will show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, which begins Monday.

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Sorry if repost....

Sam Hall 03-10-2009 08:31 PM

It's getting even more interesting between Cutler and the Broncos
 
Source: Cutler, Broncos further apart

By Bill Williamson
ESPN.com
Archive

After a contentious conference call between quarterback Jay Cutler and the Denver Broncos' brass on Monday, the situation has gone "from bad to worse", according to a source close to the situation.

The call was supposed to be a meeting of the minds between Cutler and the Broncos' brass, in particular new head coach Josh McDaniels. The two got sideways Feb. 28 when word broke that McDaniels, the former New England offensive coordinator who replaced Mike Shanahan after 14 seasons, engaged in discussions about acquiring Matt Cassel from the Patriots in a three-way trade. Cutler had maintained the Broncos initiated the talks. McDaniels publicly said he was approached about a deal.

The conference call was anything but genial and the two sides are now further apart than prior to it, the source said. The source said that the Broncos' tone of the conference call was as if Cutler created the situation by asking for the trade and not the other way around.

The source said McDaniels wouldn't confirm or deny whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks. The Broncos did, though, tell Cutler that every player on the team could be traded and he could be traded at any time. Still, Denver owner Pat Bowlen also stated in the conversation that Cutler will not be traded. The Broncos publicly said Cutler will not be traded last week as the Cutler trade frenzy was in full force.

After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term. The source maintains Cutler was totally on board with McDaniels until the trade talks story broke and that trust is Cutler's biggest problem with McDaniels and the organization.

The source said Cutler is still mulling over whether he will show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, which begins Monday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968896

L.A. Chieffan 03-10-2009 08:33 PM

Cutler on Conference Call: (Taps head with shoe) "Hear that? Can you guess what it is? That was my skull! I'm so wasted!"

FAX 03-10-2009 08:33 PM

This is just awesome.

FAX

talastan 03-10-2009 08:33 PM

Jake Plummer v2.0 - How long till Cutler flips off Denver? ;)

L.A. Chieffan 03-10-2009 08:33 PM

(Taps head with shoe) "Hear that? Can you guess what it is? That was my skull! I'm so wasted!"

Dayze 03-10-2009 08:33 PM

exxxcellent. / Mr. Burns

Sam Hall 03-10-2009 08:35 PM

Jay doesn't like Philip Rivers

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SAUTO 03-10-2009 08:35 PM

didnt cutler ask for a trade first?

Iowanian 03-10-2009 08:35 PM

Find Cutler's email and lets carpet bomb him with pictures of Cassel, and statements about his own coach wanting the QB who will be kicking his ass twice per year from KC.

L.A. Chieffan 03-10-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5571656)
Jay doesn't like Philip Rivers

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those guys are bundle of stickss!

Hammock Parties 03-10-2009 08:38 PM

this is sooooooooo freaking awesome

Ultra Peanut 03-10-2009 08:41 PM

I love this game!

Pioli Zombie 03-10-2009 08:41 PM

8-8 Jay Cutler demands his respect
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RealSNR 03-10-2009 08:42 PM

Tell Bowlen that the Chiefs will trade Larry Johnson for Jay Cutler... and use him as a backup.

BWAHAHAHAHHAHA LMAO

This is so delicious

SAUTO 03-10-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5571667)
this is sooooooooo freaking awesome

clay can you get me a link to something that said cutler asked for a trade first? or do you know where i could find one? i'vw got a donk fan who says cutler never thought about being traded before they tried and i say otherwise

KcMizzou 03-10-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5571678)
clay can you get me a link to something that said cutler asked for a trade first? or do you know where i could find one? i'vw got a donk fan who says cutler never thought about being traded before they tried and i say otherwise

Personally I don't care whether he did or not.

The fallout has been pretty sweet.

BigRock 03-10-2009 08:45 PM

L
O
L

beach tribe 03-10-2009 08:47 PM

What a great off-season.

Bwana 03-10-2009 08:49 PM

LMAO

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 08:50 PM

Denver, tell us how our asses taste.

Sam Hall 03-10-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5571706)
Denver, tell us how our asses taste.

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kc rush 03-10-2009 08:55 PM

Love it.

I'd still trade Cassel to them then flip Cutler for another team's first (if all parties are still interested). Barring that, watching the donks implode is sweet.

KcMizzou 03-10-2009 08:55 PM

It's looking more and more likely that Pioli not only got us a QB, but cost Denver theirs, in one fell swoop. Do not **** with The Don.

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 08:56 PM

I'd rather have Cutler. No question.

But if having Cassel means that Denver is a ****ing mess, that's a pretty sweet consolation prize.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2009 09:00 PM

I got it, we will trade them Cassel for Cutler & their first round pick. Then deal Cutler to the Bucs for their first round pick. Draft Sanchez, Maualuga, and Hayward-Bey. Pioli looks like a genius then. :)

Pioli Zombie 03-10-2009 09:00 PM

LJ and #3 for Cutler. Then trade Cutler to 49ers for their first and second.

Overall you've traded #3, #34 and LJ for #10, #41, Cassel and Vrabel.
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Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2009 09:01 PM

This is one helluva donkey show.

RealSNR 03-10-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5571731)
LJ and #3 for Cutler. Then trade Cutler to 49ers for their first and second.

Overall you've traded #3, #34 and LJ for #10, #41, Cassel and Vrabel.
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Cutler's not worth that much

leviw 03-10-2009 09:02 PM

"Source" = Cutler

The Bad Guy 03-10-2009 09:03 PM

If I'm the Bucs and the 49ers, I'm on the phone every hour offering my first rounder, plus a 3rd for Cutler and a 4th.

Stinger 03-10-2009 09:04 PM

Oh It Keeps Getting Better!!!!!
 
Denver Post: Cutler unsure if he'll report Monday

Broncos' talk with Cutler goes sour
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels was part of a conference call Monday with disgruntled quarterback Jay Cutler.

According to an NFL source, the call left the quarterback believing that if the Broncos find the right deal, he will be traded between now and the NFL draft that begins on April 25.

Cutler was in Nashville when the call was placed. He was accompanied on the call by his agent Bus Cook. Broncos owner Pat Bowlen and general manager Brian Xanders also were part of the call.

Cutler has been irked since learning McDaniels tried to trade him to Tampa Bay nearly two weeks ago in a proposed deal that would have brought New England quarterback Matt Cassel.

McDaniels said he merely received calls on Cutler from other teams and announced through a team spokesman last week that Cutler would not be traded. Period. And the statement added McDaniels and Cutler would meet this week, after Cutler returns from Nashville.

According to the source, Cutler entered the conference call believing any friction between the two parties would be resolved and the two sides would put the controversy behind them. Instead McDaniels told Cutler no one is untradeable and that the quarterback was expected to report for the team's offseason conditioning program that begins Monday.

According to the source, Cutler has not yet decided whether he will report Monday.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11882256

Buehler445 03-10-2009 09:05 PM

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

DIE DUNGVER :bang: :bang: :bang:

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2009 09:05 PM

Why do I liken McDaniels and Cutler to a modern day Wally and Beaver?

Simply Red 03-10-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5571647)
Cutler on Conference Call: (Taps head with shoe) "Hear that? Can you guess what it is? That was my skull! I'm so wasted!"

:LOL:

Pioli Zombie 03-10-2009 09:08 PM

Someone needs to remind Cutler he's never won more than 8 games.
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88TG88 03-10-2009 09:11 PM

That makes me feel much better.

SBK 03-10-2009 09:11 PM

LMAO

Sam Hall 03-10-2009 09:13 PM

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Wants to know what the hell his former team is doing

HemiEd 03-10-2009 09:18 PM

Excellent

StcChief 03-10-2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 5571771)
Wants to know what the hell his former team is doing

relaxing comfortably in his 33K sq.ft mansion sipping Merlot and laughing at the clowns.

Denver in disarray.... offseason just keeps getting better.

JOhn 03-10-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5571718)
It's looking more and more likely that Pioli not only got us a QB, but cost Denver theirs, in one fell swoop. Do not **** with The Don.

LMAO

Man this is sweet. I love listning to all the Donkie fans implode around here

Delano 03-10-2009 09:24 PM

"Cutler entered the conference call believing any friction between the two parties would be resolved and the two sides would put the controversy behind them. Instead McDaniels told Cutler no one is untradeable and that the quarterback was expected to report for the team's offseason conditioning program that begins Monday."

McDaniels is earning respect!

FAX 03-10-2009 09:25 PM

Cutler is unbelievable. Has he ever had a winning season as a quarterback?

FAX

FAX 03-10-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 5571641)
... The source said Cutler is still mulling over whether he will show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, which begins Monday.

Man, I hope he doesn't make it on Monday. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Cutler is just one more NFLarina going boom.

Who do the goats have as their number two?

FAX

ChiefRon 03-10-2009 09:33 PM

This is priceless. Money can't buy this shit.

ChiefRon 03-10-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5571728)
I got it, we will trade them Cassel for Cutler & their first round pick. Then deal Cutler to the Bucs for their first round pick. Draft Sanchez, Maualuga, and Hayward-Bey. Pioli looks like a genius then. :)

Wow, I would be floored and stoked

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5571820)
Man, I hope he doesn't make it on Monday. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Cutler is just one more NFLarina going boom.

Who do the goats have as their number two?

FAX

P. Ramsey, I believe.

Which isn't too shabby as #2's go to my belief tonight. Toodles.

Edit: Oops. Too bad I was wrong.

orange 03-10-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5571820)
Man, I hope he doesn't make it on Monday. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Cutler is just one more NFLarina going boom.

Who do the goats have as their number two?

FAX

Chris Simms. Newly signed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5571832)
P. Ramsey, I believe.

Which isn't too shabby as #2's go to my belief tonight. Toodles.

Ramsey's gone.

Rain Man 03-10-2009 09:54 PM

Is Cutler a certifiable moron? This is hilarious.



We should definitely trade them Cassel for a steeply inflated price.

Direckshun 03-10-2009 09:55 PM

The Broncos will start Chase Daniel next year.

Delano 03-10-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5571884)
The Broncos will start Chase Daniel next year.

You are dragging around Reerun's signature like a cat drags a turd with a long piece of tinsel inside.

CaliforniaChief 03-10-2009 10:00 PM

This has me so entertained that even if Cassel busts as our starter, it would almost still be a good investment of a 2nd round pick to jettison Denver's QBOTF. Nice.

KcMizzou 03-10-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5571904)
This has me so entertained that even if Cassel busts as our starter, it would almost still be a good investment of a 2nd round pick to jettison Denver's QBOTF. Nice.

Eh... our guy's gotta work out for us. Denver losing their guy is gravy. NOT the other way around.

Success for the Chiefs >>> Demise of the Broncos.

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5571867)
Chris Simms. Newly signed.

Yikes.

morphius 03-10-2009 10:05 PM

Couldn't happen to a better franchise.

58kcfan89 03-10-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5571916)
Eh... our guy's gotta work out for us. Denver losing their guy is gravy. NOT the other way around.

Success of the Chiefs >>> Demise of the Broncos.


This. But getting Donkoland to collapse on itself is more production than we've ever gotten out of a 2nd rounder.

Reerun_KC 03-10-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5571891)
You are dragging around Reerun's signature like a cat drags a turd with a long piece of tinsel inside.

Who says I didnt copy it from him? :shrug:

KcMizzou 03-10-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius (Post 5571925)
Couldn't happen to a better franchise.

You could make an argument for the Raiders, if they didn't already suck without any help.

orange 03-10-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5571867)
Chris Simms. Newly signed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5571921)
Yikes.

The perfect team for him. Since they have a Doctor of Internal Medicine on the full time staff anyway.

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5571946)
The perfect team for him. Since they have a Doctor of Internal Medicine on the full time staff anyway.

LMAO

KCrockaholic 03-10-2009 10:27 PM

This is Awesome! I love it when Donkeys are having trouble, and I get to live with them here in Colorado, and watch them suffer! mwahahaha.

Denver Dave 03-10-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5571867)
Chris Simms. Newly signed.

**** Simms. Go Darnell Hackney. A poor man's David Garrard.

orange 03-10-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver Dave (Post 5572015)
**** Simms. Go Darnell Hackney. A poor man's David Garrard.

David Garrard is a poor man's David Garrard.

wazu 03-10-2009 10:44 PM

Somebody will slap some sense into Cutler, he'll find Jesus, and be their QB for the next 15 years. I'm not being pessimistic here, I just can't see any other realistic option.

|Zach| 03-10-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5572016)
David Garrard is a poor man's David Garrard.

LMAO

Denver Dave 03-10-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5572018)
Somebody will slap some sense into Cutler, he'll find Jesus, and be their QB for the next 15 years. I'm not being pessimistic here, I just can't see any other realistic option.

I agree. In Williamson's story, he mentioned Bowlen has reiniterated that Cutler is not going anywhere.

On the flip side, Bowlen also said Shanahan was his coach for life so take that for what it's worth.

orange 03-10-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5572018)
Somebody will slap some sense into Cutler, he'll find Jesus, and be their QB for the next 15 years. I'm not being pessimistic here, I just can't see any other realistic option.

There were apparently five people on that conference call - Bowlen, Xanders, Danielson, Cutler, and Bus Cook (Cutler's agent).

Who do you think the "source" for this article was?

I've said from the first day that this whole thing smells like a contract ploy, and after this I'm more convinced than ever.
"After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term."
What exactly does that underlined phrase mean if not "more money?"

Denver Dave 03-10-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5572016)
David Garrard is a poor man's David Garrard.

ROFL

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5572031)
There were apparently five people on that conference call - Bowlen, Xanders, Danielson, Cutler, and Bus Cook (Cutler's agent).

Who do you think the "source" for this article was?

I've said from the first day that this whole thing smells like a contract ploy, and after this I'm more convinced than ever.

"After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term."

What exactly does that underlined phrase mean if not "more money?"

"Bend over," would seem to be more accurate.

orange 03-10-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5572031)

What exactly does that underlined phrase mean if not "more money?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5572037)
"Bend over," would seem to be more accurate.

That's what they call "a distinction without a difference."

DeezNutz 03-10-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange (Post 5572044)
That's what they call "a distinction without a difference."

When the palms of your hands touch knees or ankles, there's a difference, and not a fine one.

Yeah, he's saying "more money," but he's not saying "please."

RINGLEADER 03-11-2009 12:03 AM

Donkey KONG'D!

ShortRoundChief 03-11-2009 12:11 AM

Cutler reminds me of the dick bag qb who was the starting qb in the replacements.

cdcox 03-11-2009 12:17 AM

Headlines to look forward to:

Cuterler situation has gone form "irreconcilable to toxic".

Culter situation has gone from 'toxic to just a bit beyond armageddon".

Hammock Parties 03-11-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5572190)
Headlines to look forward to:

Cuterler situation has gone form "irreconcilable to toxic".

Culter situation has gone from 'toxic to just a bit beyond armageddon".

"Chiefs Deal Cassel To Broncos For Cutler and 1st rounder"

Ultra Peanut 03-11-2009 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver Dave (Post 5572015)
**** Simms. Go Darnell Hackney. A poor man's David Garrard.

His name is Darrell, and he's the spawn of Satan.

skky man 03-11-2009 01:12 AM

AFC WEST CHAMPS! The ingredients are all there!

1. AL Davis is still running the raiders
2. Norv's talented core that he was left is wearing out and his HC ablility will take care of the rest.

skky man 03-11-2009 01:16 AM

the west is opening up more and more everyday! Al's still in charge, Norv's talent core he as left with is wearing out and his HC ability will take care of the rest, and the new regime in denver tripped the self destruct button on their way in the front door!

Denver Dave 03-11-2009 01:48 AM

Our whiskey guzzlin, good ole boy from Nashville will beat the shit out of your pretty boy USC QB. It's on bitches!!!


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