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RustShack 03-11-2009 10:44 AM
Players the Chiefs have talked to
 
Roger Allen, OG, Missouri Western PW
Jason Williams, OLB, Western Illinois APD
Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas I
Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC I
Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss I
Pat White, QB, West Virginia I
Brian Cushing, OLB, USC I
Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State I

http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-team-interest/

The Franchise 03-11-2009 10:48 AM
So either we've talked to no one that is worth the #3 pick or they aren't saying anything about it. The latter makes more sense.

BigCatDaddy 03-11-2009 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5572950)
So either we've talked to no one that is worth the #3 pick or they aren't saying anything about it. The latter makes more sense.
Interesting that a few of these guys are mid to late 1st rounders. Maybe that indicates they strongly believe that can trade down.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2009 11:01 AM
I keep seeing Z. Follett's name keep coming up. Yah boy. That kid can play. I can see him excelling in the pros-he's a headhunter. Damn, I hope we get a shot a drafting him.

htismaqe 03-11-2009 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 5572977)
Interesting that a few of these guys are mid to late 1st rounders. Maybe that indicates they strongly believe that can trade down.
Hope so.

I like that we're looking at Pat White too. Provided he can be had in the later rounds, he presents a potential to create some unique mismatches 3 or 4 times a game.

RustShack 03-11-2009 11:06 AM
BENGALS WORK OUT ABILENE CHRISTIAN QUARTERBCK
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 11, 2009, 9:53 a.m.

Cincinnati Bengals quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese worked out Abilene Christian quarterback Billy Don Malone this week, according to Adam Caplan of Scout.com.

A 26-year-old Division II star, Malone passed for 34 touchdowns and 2,944 yards last season. He only threw six interceptions.

Malone began his collegiate career at Tulane in 2002 as a blue-chip recruit who turned down offers from Texas, Tennessee and LSU.

According to a New York Times article, Malone had issues at Tulane, including a heart problem, a marijuana habit and a low grade point average.

Since leaving Tulane, Malone has found religion, gotten married and is the father of two children.

At 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, Malone has ideal pro size and a strong arm.

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I think he could be an interesting pickup later in the draft.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2009 11:13 AM
I think Chase Holbrook out of New Mexico is a very intriquing prospect. He has everything you look for in a QB, he just had no supporting cast. He'll be a late round pick, that could actually turn into a quality QB.

htismaqe 03-11-2009 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5573017)
According to a New York Times article, Malone had issues at Tulane, including a heart problem, a marijuana habit and a low grade point average.
That's about half of all college kids right there. ROFL

rockymtnchief 03-11-2009 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5573004)
I keep seeing Z. Follett's name keep coming up. Yah boy. That kid can play. I can see him excelling in the pros-he's a headhunter. Damn, I hope we get a shot a drafting him.
He's one of the guys I posted on another site about. I'd love KC to get him.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2009 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 5573086)
He's one of the guys I posted on another site about. I'd love KC to get him.
He's a high-motor, high-character, football player first-type, but he's probably better suited as an OLBer in the 4-3. He could possibly transition to ILBer in a 3-4, but as much as I'd like to see him here, if we are thinking 3-4 we may be better served to look elswhere.

PhillyChiefFan 03-11-2009 12:16 PM
Do they have to report any interaction with the players??

The Franchise 03-11-2009 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 5573236)
Do they have to report any interaction with the players??
I believe that the Broncos never reported talking to Jay Cutler.....and then they drafted him.

bowener 03-11-2009 02:18 PM
Sweet! I really hope we find a way to bring Roger Allen to KC. He is a friend of mine, but more importantly he is a great guy, hard worker, team player, and a home town kid from Raytown (not too far from the stadium at all)! I would love to see him busting skulls for the Chiefs some day. He would too!

Reaper16 03-11-2009 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5573017)
BENGALS WORK OUT ABILENE CHRISTIAN QUARTERBCK
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 11, 2009, 9:53 a.m.

Cincinnati Bengals quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese worked out Abilene Christian quarterback Billy Don Malone this week, according to Adam Caplan of Scout.com.

A 26-year-old Division II star, Malone passed for 34 touchdowns and 2,944 yards last season. He only threw six interceptions.

Malone began his collegiate career at Tulane in 2002 as a blue-chip recruit who turned down offers from Texas, Tennessee and LSU.

According to a New York Times article, Malone had issues at Tulane, including a heart problem, a marijuana habit and a low grade point average.

Since leaving Tulane, Malone has found religion, gotten married and is the father of two children.

At 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, Malone has ideal pro size and a strong arm.

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I think he could be an interesting pickup later in the draft.
I watched Malone play in person twice last year.

He has a lot of physical skills, but folds under pressure. Well, he only faced pressure in exactly one game last season, anyway, and he folded.

Rooster 03-11-2009 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5573517)
Sweet! I really hope we find a way to bring Roger Allen to KC. He is a friend of mine, but more importantly he is a great guy, hard worker, team player, and a home town kid from Raytown (not too far from the stadium at all)! I would love to see him busting skulls for the Chiefs some day. He would too!
Is the worth the #3 overall pick? :D

Tribal Warfare 03-11-2009 03:37 PM
Jason Williams OLB, Western Illinois

The Franchise 03-11-2009 03:45 PM
Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss

ChiefsCountry 03-11-2009 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5573544)
Well, he only faced pressure in exactly one game last season, anyway, and he folded.
The playoff game against Northwest?

booger 03-11-2009 07:34 PM
I think Tom Brandstater of Fresno St. is a Pioli type of pick as a mid to late rd qb prospect. Just from his size 6'4 or bigger 225# or so. Doesn't hurt Pat Hill is the HC, a former BB assistant.

DaneMcCloud 03-11-2009 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5573017)

I think he could be an interesting pickup later in the draft.
I think he would be a complete and utter waste of a draft choice by ANY NFL team

Reaper16 03-11-2009 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5574229)
The playoff game against Northwest?
Yeah. The playoff game. We didn't do shit to him on the first game of the season.

Mecca 03-11-2009 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5573004)
I keep seeing Z. Follett's name keep coming up. Yah boy. That kid can play. I can see him excelling in the pros-he's a headhunter. Damn, I hope we get a shot a drafting him.
Maybe it's just me but I don't like him.

htismaqe 03-12-2009 08:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 5574246)
I think Tom Brandstater of Fresno St. is a Pioli type of pick as a mid to late rd qb prospect. Just from his size 6'4 or bigger 225# or so. Doesn't hurt Pat Hill is the HC, a former BB assistant.
Excellent detective work. Never even thought of it until you mentioned this.

bdeg 03-12-2009 11:13 AM
We have our late-round QB prospect with the tools who just needs some time in the NFL to adjust. His name is Brodie Croyle, his strength can be improved so his durability can be improved. I remember reading a quote from a scout saying they don't worry about strength because they can fix it later on.

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5574678)
Maybe it's just me but I don't like him.
What's not to like? The guy has the heart of a lion and motor like a Lambourghini. He's a one-man wrecking machine with a nose for the ball. He's great in pass coverage and rushing the QB. Here's a little highlight of him. For a 2nd day pick, the guy will make some team very happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCbZ...x=0&playnext=1

another good one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsr4YIWgazc&NR=1

Coach 03-12-2009 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5573544)
I watched Malone play in person twice last year.

He has a lot of physical skills, but folds under pressure. Well, he only faced pressure in exactly one game last season, anyway, and he folded.
The NWMSU game?

Reaper16 03-12-2009 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5576390)
The NWMSU game?
Yup. He was hella-impressive in the first game because Northwest's defense couldn't pressure him. The playoff game was a different story; the young defense had matured a lot over the course of the season.

Ultimately, though, Malone had a WR that could be a 6th or 7th round pick in Johnny Knox. AND he had RB Bernard Scott, a freak of nature at the D2 level, and a probable 5th round draft pick.

Blick 03-12-2009 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5575640)
What's not to like? The guy has the heart of a lion and motor like a Lambourghini. He's a one-man wrecking machine with a nose for the ball. He's great in pass coverage and rushing the QB. Here's a little highlight of him. For a 2nd day pick, the guy will make some team very happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCbZ...x=0&playnext=1

another good one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsr4YIWgazc&NR=1
I like him. Is he really projected to go on the 2nd day?

Mecca 03-12-2009 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5575640)
What's not to like? The guy has the heart of a lion and motor like a Lambourghini. He's a one-man wrecking machine with a nose for the ball. He's great in pass coverage and rushing the QB. Here's a little highlight of him. For a 2nd day pick, the guy will make some team very happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCbZ...x=0&playnext=1

another good one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsr4YIWgazc&NR=1
He never struck me as "great in pass coverage" when I watched him play. The first thing I thought was he's kinda stiff and a guy who works hard but isn't very naturally athletic. He was really shitty at changing direction and I just didn't see much in coverage just the lack of fluid hips and change of direction.

He struck me as a guy who tackled well and so badly wanted to get a big hit that he was over aggressive. I just don't see a whole lot of upside either because he's a guy who is physically maxed out and has more or less worked into what he as as opposed to be a top notch athlete.

I think he'll be a good special teams player but I don't think he's athletic enough to be a good starter on the NFL level, like Scott McKilop same kinda deal.

Mecca 03-12-2009 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5576826)
I like him. Is he really projected to go on the 2nd day?
He's not very athletic.....so yes he is.

Blick 03-12-2009 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5576831)
He's not very athletic.....so yes he is.
I think he'd be a steal. He's not slow, and he has a good vertical. You can make up for limited athleticism with intelligence, instincts, heart, technique, etc. He made a lot of plays for someone who isn't very athletic.

Mecca 03-12-2009 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Blick (Post 5576855)
I think he'd be a steal. He's not slow, and he has a good vertical. You can make up for limited athleticism with intelligence, instincts, heart, technique, etc. He made a lot of plays for someone who isn't very athletic.
I'm sure this market would love him, unathletic hardworkers that really should be backups seem to be loved.

Blick 03-12-2009 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5576880)
I'm sure this market would love him, unathletic hardworkers that really should be backups seem to be loved.
He'll probably start out as a backup and special teams player. The Chiefs could use a guy who can bust heads and force fumbles on special teams.

jspchief 03-12-2009 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5576880)
I'm sure this market would love him, unathletic hardworkers that really should be backups seem to be loved.
Yea, we should just draft 1st rounders on the 2nd day. Admit it, that's why you don't like him.

You're such a ****ing douche. I'm tired of your bullshit takes on college players that are really just plagiarized opinions from draft websites. You consistently talk out of both sides of your mouth, and despite what the reeruns that hang on you around here say, you're not any more right than anyone else.

JFC i'll be glad when the draft is over so you can stop acting like you know what the **** you're talking about and get back to hating the Chiefs.

Mecca 03-12-2009 05:47 PM
Great, don't read what I post then if it bugs you that much.

Sorry I will always prefer speed and natural athleticism to guys who work hard but aren't naturally gifted.

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5576880)
I'm sure this market would love him, unathletic hardworkers that really should be backups seem to be loved.
Hell, even the top guys have question marks, but suggesting Follett doesn't have natural ability is a bit of reach. You don't dominate on the collegiate level like Follett did, if you don't have some natural, athletic ability.

Mecca 03-12-2009 06:34 PM
I'm talking about transitioning to the next level...for the NFL he isn't very athletic.

RustShack 03-13-2009 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5577200)
I'm talking about transitioning to the next level...for the NFL he isn't very athletic.
What don't want to win anything, screw good athletes!!!

BigChiefFan 03-13-2009 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5577200)
I'm talking about transitioning to the next level...for the NFL he isn't very athletic.
If he was more athletic, he'd be a first day pick. I'm sure his 18 sacks were just gimmees, right? 1/3 of the teams have talked with him, because he has no fit in the NFL, right?

Blick 03-13-2009 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5577200)
I'm talking about transitioning to the next level...for the NFL he isn't very athletic.
Almost all of the white LB's in the league aren't really athletic.

KCrockaholic 03-13-2009 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5575640)
What's not to like? The guy has the heart of a lion and motor like a Lambourghini. He's a one-man wrecking machine with a nose for the ball. He's great in pass coverage and rushing the QB. Here's a little highlight of him. For a 2nd day pick, the guy will make some team very happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCbZ...x=0&playnext=1

another good one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsr4YIWgazc&NR=1
why the F*** did I JUST find out about this guy?

KCrockaholic 03-13-2009 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5580359)
If he was more athletic, he'd be a first day pick. I'm sure his 18 sacks were just gimmees, right? 1/3 of the teams have talked with him, because he has no fit in the NFL, right?
idk yet, but he seems to have a great motor...makes me miss our great pass rushing white guy..:deevee: Jared Allen

melbar 03-14-2009 12:51 PM
But hey, guys with great athleticism and no work ethic outside the gym work out well too! (see Gholston)

RustShack 03-14-2009 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5582031)
But hey, guys with great athleticism and no work ethic outside the gym work out well too! (see Gholston)
I hope your not dumb enough to label players after just their rookie year.

melbar 03-14-2009 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5582335)
I hope your not dumb enough to label players after just their rookie year.
Lazy is lazy. Hope he turns it around, but he wasnt worthy of being the top pick as some argured last year. Or are you dumb enough to to think a guy with motivation issues was a better pick than the guys picked before him?

aturnis 03-15-2009 01:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5576830)
He never struck me as "great in pass coverage" when I watched him play. The first thing I thought was he's kinda stiff and a guy who works hard but isn't very naturally athletic. He was really shitty at changing direction and I just didn't see much in coverage just the lack of fluid hips and change of direction.

He struck me as a guy who tackled well and so badly wanted to get a big hit that he was over aggressive. I just don't see a whole lot of upside either because he's a guy who is physically maxed out and has more or less worked into what he as as opposed to be a top notch athlete.

I think he'll be a good special teams player but I don't think he's athletic enough to be a good starter on the NFL level, like Scott McKilop same kinda deal.

Zach Follet @ draftcountdown

Weaknesses:
Just average size and bulk...Stiff and not a great athlete...Doesn't play real fast...Has some health and durability concerns...Sub par change of direction skills...Too aggressive at times...Lacks fluid hips...A liability in coverage...Marginal ball skills...Struggles in space ... Limited upside.

Come up with that all by yourself did ya?

aturnis 03-15-2009 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5577056)
Great, don't read what I post then if it bugs you that much.

Sorry I will always prefer speed and natural athleticism to guys who work hard but aren't naturally gifted.
So you hate Vrabel...got it.

Mecca 03-15-2009 01:31 AM
Anyone who ever watched more than a highlight vid could tell he wasn't overly athletic...and teams pick on him in the passing game.

I really don't understand the obsession with hard workers, if the guy works hard thats nice but generally they do need you know talent.

Blick 03-15-2009 01:03 PM
He's an explosive hitter and makes plays. He's more than a hard worker. He's not Maslowski.

Tribal Warfare 03-31-2009 04:09 AM
bump

Dave Lane 03-31-2009 04:40 AM
I have to say I like his motor and i think he has NFL skills. Aaron Curry's highlight reel should look so good. :)

Saccopoo 03-31-2009 11:37 AM
Follet is a player. He is not the same level of player as say, Scott Fujita, also from Cal, but he could be a killer on special teams for someone and might develop into a situational player given his intensity and instincts. I like both him and Mortty Ivy from WVU as a later round LB pick for the Chiefs. They both play the same position and have the same skill sets. Intense with a nose for the ball and can be spot fillers at any linebacker position along with good special teams potential.

Tribal Warfare 04-13-2009 08:28 PM
http://draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.htm


The Kansas City Chiefs have showed tremendous interest in ex-Ball State star Darius Hill. Their offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach have worked out the pass-catching tight end.

ChiefsCountry 04-13-2009 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5667244)
http://draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.htm


The Kansas City Chiefs have showed tremendous interest in ex-Ball State star Darius Hill. Their offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach have worked out the pass-catching tight end.
I think he is from Blue Springs.

Tribal Warfare 04-13-2009 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5667280)
I think he is from Blue Springs.
http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplay...uting#scouting

that's corect

aturnis 04-13-2009 09:47 PM
The Chiefs did supposedly talk to Nate Davis around combine time. Is it possible they were just fishing for information about Darius Hill from his QB?

Smed1065 04-14-2009 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5572950)
So either we've talked to no one that is worth the #3 pick or they aren't saying anything about it. The latter makes more sense.
Yeah they forgot to announce it for the fans..........

Nice DV thought!

bowener 04-14-2009 10:29 AM
If we got Follett what position would he play? ILB or OLB? He seems to have the typical size of an ILB at 6'1" 240lbs.

jtfris 04-14-2009 04:00 PM
Does Talking to them Mean Anything?
 
Does anyone have any information about how often the Pats actually talked to the guys they were looking at drafting?

Chiefnj2 04-15-2009 08:05 AM
Teams will often interview players that other teams in their conference are likely to draft to find out things about them.


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