Source: Chiefs' Gonzalez wants out
 

Didn't see this posted already...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ml?eref=si_nfl

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Contrary to remarks by Kansas City owner Clark Hunt, Tony Gonzalez wants to be traded if the right deal can be made, a person close to the Pro Bowl tight end told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Asking not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject, the person said Gonzalez was surprised that Hunt had said the Chiefs were definitely not going to trade their 10-time Pro Bowler.

"If the right deal can be made, Tony very much wants the Chiefs to trade him," the person said. "Tony is not demanding a trade. Tony cherishes the time he's spent with the Chiefs and he loves the way he's always been treated by the fans there. But he knows of some other teams that would be interested in him and if the right deal can be made, he wants it to be made."

A Chiefs spokesman said Hunt could not be immediately reached. At the owners' meeting in Dana Point, Calif., on Monday, Hunt said the Chiefs had decided not to deal Gonzalez, whose many NFL records includes the most catches, yards receiving and touchdown receptions by a tight end.

"We certainly will not seek a trade for Tony," Hunt told The Kansas City Star. "I think he's excited about the changes we've made here. I think he recognizes that with Todd (Haley) as the head coach, we're going to have an exciting offense and one that will feature the passing game."

Since the end of a 2-14 season, the Chiefs have installed Scott Pioli as general manager and Haley as head coach.

The 33-year-old Gonzalez asked to be traded last October. But then-general manager Carl Peterson said no team that Gonzalez was willing to go to made a good enough offer.

The only tight end in NFL history selected to 10 Pro Bowls, Gonzalez was usually double-teamed last year but still caught 96 passes for 1,058 yards and 10 touchdowns. He plans on playing at least one more season and possibly two.

"If the Chiefs can't make a deal with the right team, then Tony will be fine with that," The AP was told. "He is not demanding a trade. But if the right deal can be made, he very much would like to be traded."

Dear Tony:

Deal with it.

Does anyone think Tony will pull a C**tler in this? :shrug: I hope not.

I don't blame him. He's only playing 2 or 3 more years and unless he really is a spoiled prima donna only in it for the money (which I don't believe...), he's going to want a chance at a title before he retires. Which he won't get here, not in that time frame.

I'd say wish him the best of luck and get as much for him as you can.

Buh-bye Tony.

He'll be outta here faster than shit thru a goose.
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Unless he wants to go against everything he has always stood for, he isn't going anywhere. Face it, he will retire a Chief! I don't see Tony pulling a Cutler.

Doesn't sound like it.

But if that's how he feels, he should be telling Pioli that... and not yapping to the media.

Seems to me that he wants out, but this is his version of damage control. I think he does value his image, above all else. He wants that last shot... but he doesn't want the entire Chiefs fan base hating him, either.

If he wants out, im sure the Chiefs will explore trade options. Its only smart.

Ive enjoyed him as a Chief, but hes not part of the long term plans. Hes only a TE.

He's not going to pull a Cutler for one simple reason:

It doesn't get him what he wants.

If he bitches and moans and makes demands, other teams know the Chiefs have no leverage, and will lower the offer.

In turn, Pioli's not going to give him away.

More money and a better chance of winning a ring. Hmmm. I wonder who WOULDN'T want to be traded in that case?

You never go FULL Cutler

Bye, Tony. I'll hate to lose your talent, but you've become a ****ing distraction.

Source: Chiefs don't give a shit about what Gonzalez wants.

But it was a source close to Tony :)

Pioli has proven he knows when to dump an aging vet.

Heheh, yeahhhh...

Just like that source close to Brian Waters.

It seems like there is at least one story a month about how he wants out..

Of course he wants out.

He's only gone to the media 3-4 times in the past 18 months to say so.

Grant his ass his wish.

Jason Taylor style.

(Meh, I'm not sure I mean that... I might. Give me some time.)

Clark qualified his statement....the Chiefs won't be shopping Tony--doesn't mean they won't listen to a reasonable proposal by someone. I think it would have to be a SB contender, that was willing to give at least a 3rd rounder--and after TG's second half last year, more likely a 2nd rounder. TG has 2-3 good years left....and could be the difference for a team like the Giants, the Patriots, the Jets, the Vikings, or maybe even someplace like Tennesee or Arizona.

:hmmm:

They wont get a 2nd for him ever.

They did get offered a 3rd last year but Carl couldnt let his baby leave the nest and backed out.

Uh, seems to me, that's not what he's doing at all.....Chiefs are rebuilding, he doesn't have much time..... would like to ACTUALLY experience a playoff win...let alone being in the big one.... let alone winning it.

He's not being a whiny bitch , he''s proved himself...IMO....it's not his fault that his mentor (CeePee) gave him untold amounts of money that would guarentee he finished his career as a Chief...and he graciously accepted...

Just two sides of the story, and I guess we'll see what the new GM decides, I myself would get what I could for him....JMHO.

Id take a 3rd in a second.

If the Chiefs could ever get a 3rd for Gonzalaz and a 3rd for LJ it would be a great day.
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Not his fault? Nobody forced him to sign with the Chiefs again. I dont feel sorry for him one bit.

You would 've turned it down? :spock:

That sucks

Oh this is a new thread? I just thought someone dredged up a thread from one of his six previous trade demands.

If we end up drafting a QB (doubtful) then I want him to stay. Otherwise, well, bye.

Tony, LJ, Waters, and a case of Natty to the Lions for #1.

While I can understand why Tony would want a trade, its best we keep him on. He has shown that despite the trade drama, he will go out and play hard every week. This team needs someone that a new QB can rely on when needed. If Gonzales goes, Bowe will never see a passing down that he doesn't get double teamed again. The Chiefs have few enough weapons on offense they can hardly be able to give them away. We still have a weak offensive line that has not proved it can run block or protect the QB. We still have no other recievers on this squad that can consistently catch balls. This team without Tony Gonzales would be a contender for 0-16.

He can't tell Pioli. Pioli doesn't talk to players.

I have no problem with this for the simple fact that I know Tony will give the Chiefs 100% if he's not traded. He just needed to put this out there to keep his options open and allow the offers to come. There's nothing there about a demand, just making his wishes known. I hope we keep him. He's a great player and much more than "just a TE." He produces like a top flight WR and demands the kind of defensive attention a top flight WR does.

Tony needs to get a grip.

Yep. And this.

Would be nice if he would just STFU, but that is to much to ask...

Cry baby #2 behind Big Crying Waters...

TAMPERING.

Rat the teams out and get us some draft picks, Tony.

There's a part of me that would like to see the Chiefs go ahead and let Tony, LJ, and Waters go, then proceed to go to and win the Superbowl within 2 years.


In reality though, I have the same mentality with these guys as Denver should have with Cutler - You're under contract, shut up and play!

It seems like every year Gonzo whines like a bitch about something. Our version of Cutler, I guess.

I'm getting really tired of his gas.

Love your work, Tony, but seriously, shut the **** up already. You're a future hall of famer, a multi-millionaire and will absolutely get a job as an analyst when you retire. Stop acting like you're a leper begging for change.

I feel soooooo badly for these athletes who were forced to sign contracts of their own free will.

**** 'em. No one owes them shit.

It will be nice when all these previously coddled veterans are gone. I've been a loyal Gonzo fan since the day he was drafted, but this is ridiculous. Clark is doing everything possible to build a winning franchise. Considering all the money he's paying these players, it seems to me that the least they can do is shut their burrito holes and focus on learning the system and making plays when their number is called. Even if TG is traded, he only has short odds that he'll go to a franchise that will find their way to the Super Bowl. That's why they play the games.

I'm weary of this drama.

FAX

Hey Tony, with the throwback uniforms, consider yourself a Texan. 2 games into the season you'll get traded to the Chiefs.

if we could get a decent pick for him, then i'd probably do it

Just wait, "a asshole" will be along shortly to explain why he's worth a late 1st/early 2nd. And if you have the urge to agree with my previous statement, save yourself the hassle and don't.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject.

And what's this whole "he's got 1 or 2 more years left" crap? I've never seen/heard anything about him showing up to a team activity out of shape and he's still very productive. I'm willing to bet he could play 3, maybe even 4 more seasons if he wants to. By that time, we should hopefully be competing for playoff spots & whatnot.

Hope he stays ...

Sorry Tony. We have a young quarterback. You can't leave now.

This.

"...a person close to the Pro Bowl tight end told The Associated Press on Tuesday."

Sorry, but this is nothing close to the Cutler saga. This team is going to need TG next season and Mr. Hunt has spoken. Story over.

I thought you believed in Thigpen, Tony? Huh?? ****in' Prima donna.

That's Tony saying, "Off the record..."

I'll bet both the Eagles and Giants wish they'd pulled the trigger on that deal last season, though.

Eh, if it was unprecedented I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but it seems like we have a Tony drama once or twice a year. I sometimes think he's wanted out of KC ever since he was drafted.

Tony probably went a whole week without sex or something.

It's a tough spot.

If you really have a legit shot at the SB, you have to pull out all the stops. But if my team gave up a high draft pick for an old player whose level of play could realistically fall off a cliff tomorrow (don't think it will with Gonzo, just saying) I would be beyond pissed.

And we're not talking about an old QB or dominant pass rusher; we're talking about a TE. Aside from KC fans, saying 1st rounder for a 30-something guy who plays an ancillary position will cause people to look twice.

Sounds like TG and BW are working from the same playbook then. I suspect Mr. Hunt's comments are final. Unless someone makes an offer that can't be refused.

He should just buy October another ring, and get over it.

Trade him to the giants for a pass rusher..they have extras

I agree. But Gonzalez would have immediately contributed and could have well put either one of them over the hump. And he is, at the moment, at least, at the top of his game and healthy. It is reasonable to assume he's got at least one good year left in him, so they would have had that plus the end of last season.

If it works, the GM is a hero. But even if it doesn't, I think it would have been an acceptable risk.

Now, with another year gone? Perhaps not.

Gonzo is a special, freakish player. There's no doubt about this.

Last year I would have taken the second rounder for him. This year, though, you're right; the same value isn't going to be there.

Thus, with a new QB in the stable, he's too valuable of a security blanket, which is needed for the continued development of our team, to part with for a later-round pick.

Still doesn't change the fact that he needs to shut the **** up.

No kiddin'..... :hmmm:

I like Tony and wish for him to retire as a Chief, but I'm on board with most everyone else here. I understand you want to go to a championship contender, but you can look directly at Jason Taylor and the Dolphins on how quickly things can change in the NFL. Of course, I don't want to blatantly state that we're going to the Super Bowl (or the playoffs) anytime soon....but things can change like *snap*...that.

Also, I'm very sick of athletes UNDER CONTRACT bitching and complaining about where THEY want to go. The front office has ponied up the dough and you signed that contract of your own free will. Nobody owes you shit. Put on some pads and keep making it hell over the middle for defenders.

The inmates keep trying to run the asylum.

This is getting old...and fast.

Clark Hunt has made a hell of an effort at changing the culture of this franchise with Pioli, Haley, and his commitment to building a winning organization.

None of these players give the Chiefs great options for moving them off the roster. Gonzalez is still a stud, but his time is getting shorter by the day. Johnson's off the field troubles are going to keep teams at a distance. Waters isn't exactly a spring chicken himself.

The three of them would be GREAT pieces, even if only temporarily, to this team over the next couple years.

Suck it up gents and play ball.
Damn.

If you want to change the culture generally it means getting rid of players who were the "leaders" of the culture you are trying to change.

SSDD

Ever since Tony gave up meat, he's been asking for a trade. :hmmm:

Gonzo and LJ, if they can fetch a couple of decent picks, are Gonzo.
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ship that whiny ass bidge out

No kidding, 22 players off the street could have won two games....

Clark might just be adding trade value by stating that he doesn't plan to trade Tony. If somebody would offer more than "fair trade", I'm sure Pioli will be all over it. Gonzo's one of my favorite all time Chiefs on and expecially off the field. But, let's just say on draft day that somebody's on the board that we need, and that team wants Tony, pull the trigger.

Trade LJ and TG. By the time we're good they will both be shells of their current selves (ie two yrs from now).

This!

And Mecca is 100% right, if you want to change shit, you gotta change all that shit.

I love Tony too, any REAL (tm) fan would, but I can see them trading him for the right deal. It's the right time for Tony and the Chiefs to part ways, for the right deal of course.

Trade him, get atleast a 3rd for him

This.

Another great trade for both teams. Gonzo to the Patriots for one of there 3 third round picks. Patriots can afford to give one up and Brady firing to Moss, Welker, and Tony would be awesome.
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That was essentially a fourth round pick and considering Tony's production and Pro-bowl caliber season I'd say that the last pick in the third round was way too low. Peterson was right to ask for the Giant's second round pick.

Gonzalez has three good years left, IMO. Any team that is within their window of opportunity might cough up a second rounder to put them over the top. I'll bet you that the Giants wish they had made that deal for a second rounder. He would have been a perfect go-to target for Manning. Gonzales would have been the tonic for what ailed them last season.

God damnit Tony. There is no ****ing loyalty in the NFL. What a bunch of shit. This is a problem in professional sports all over though. I still can't believe that John Smoltz can pitch for the ****ing Red Sox...

The problem is that he costs a lot for only 3 years.