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Tribal Warfare 04-08-2009 08:04 PM

PFW: The Way We Hear It — draft edition
 

Belichick disciples cloud top five; Draft audibles


By Nolan Nawrocki
April 8, 2009

With barely two weeks to go before the draft takes place, most teams have entered final draft meetings to properly set their boards before final character and medical meetings allow the board to bleed, as red strikes are crossed through names, draft cards are flipped upside down or removed altogether.
Virginia OLT Eugene Monroe

Virginia OLT Eugene Monroe
The top of the draft is beginning to shape up, with Matthew Stafford and a pair of blind-side protectors — Baylor’s Jason Smith and Virginia’s Eugene Monroe — all in heavy consideration at the top of the draft and expected to fit into the top five.

However, the presence of new Chiefs GM Scott Pioli and Browns head coach Eric Mangini — two tight-lipped, guarded Bill Belichick disciples — near the top of the draft order has left observers only guessing at what might happen in the top five, creating as much uncertainty at the top of the draft as ever.

There's a leaguewide perception that Aaron Curry is being prized by the Chiefs at No. 3 because he is such a safe choice. However, the way we hear it, the Chiefs will be in the big-man sweepstakes, with the new regime being driven by the need to draft someone who can protect new QB Matt Cassel and thereby enhance his chance of success.

If Stafford is selected first overall as expected, it would force either Smith or Monroe into the Chiefs’ hands. Monroe played for Al Groh, who worked with Pioli and new K.C. head coach Todd Haley previously in New York with the Jets, and shares a playing history with Chiefs OLT Branden Albert. Reuniting the two would be a very natural fit. If Smith happened to fall, the Chiefs could leave Albert on the left side and kick ORT Damion McIntosh inside to guard, significantly improving the pocket.

SBK 04-08-2009 08:06 PM

PFW: True fan edition

the Talking Can 04-08-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5652680)
PFW: True fan edition

no shit

mcintosh at guard?


reeruned

SBK 04-08-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5652817)
no shit

mcintosh at guard?


reeruned

McIntosh doesn't need a new position.....







































He needs to be on a new team.

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5652817)
no shit

mcintosh at guard?


reeruned

I agree. That's why Kraig Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

SBK 04-08-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kirk Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

Where's Goff in this abortion of a prediction?

DaKCMan AP 04-08-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kirk Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

Gay.

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5652852)
Where's Goff in this abortion of a prediction?

LG. Duh.

milkman 04-08-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kraig Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

****ing idiot.

Coogs 04-08-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652856)
LG. Duh.

Waters?

htismaqe 04-08-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kraig Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

That would suck.

the Talking Can 04-08-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kraig Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

that would suck ass...so it probably will happen

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5652863)
Waters?

LG. In Philadelphia.

That's why Alex Mack is playing center for the Chiefs. We got the 18th and 24th from them for Larry, Tony and Brian.

We picked Monroe with the #3, Clint Sintim with the #18 and Alex Mack with the #24. Fortunately, Kraig Urbik was still on the board when we picked in the third round.

Four potential Hall of Fame guys now on the offensive line, and three of them in this draft.

Jesus...what show have you guys been watching?

Coogs 04-08-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652893)
LG. In Philadelphia.

That's why Alex Mack is playing center for the Chiefs. We got the 18th and 24th from them for Larry, Tony and Brian.

We picked Monroe with the #3, Clint Sintim with the #18 and Alex Mack with the #24. Fortunately, Kraig Urbik was still on the board when we picked in the third round.

Four potential Hall of Fame guys now on the offensive line, and three of them in this draft.

Jesus...what show have you guys been watching?

:LOL:

the Talking Can 04-08-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652893)
LG. In Philadelphia.

That's why Alex Mack is playing center for the Chiefs. We got the 18th and 24th from them for Larry, Tony and Brian.

We picked Monroe with the #3, Clint Sintim with the #18 and Alex Mack with the #24. Fortunately, Kraig Urbik was still on the board when we picked in the third round.

Four potential Hall of Fame guys now on the offensive line, and three of them in this draft.

Jesus...what show have you guys been watching?

LMAO

DaneMcCloud 04-08-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652848)
I agree. That's why Kraig Ubrik will be our RG, Albert our RT and Monroe our new LT. Book it.

:Lin:

Saccopoo 04-08-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5652917)
:Lin:

I'd be like that already if you guys would stop talking to me. I want to hit the bar, get piss drunk and wake up at the bar maids house. Now stop bugging me so I can accomplish some worthwhile goals this evening.

And remember who said it first here when it says "MONROE" on the back of our left tackles jersey when the season starts.

the Talking Can 04-08-2009 08:58 PM

the eagles are going to trade 2 first round draft picks for a bunch of over-30 yrs old players from one of the worst teams in the league....one of whom is an alcoholic, women beating quitter who was suspended last year...



this rivals the dumbest things ever typed on the planet

htismaqe 04-08-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652929)
And remember who said it first here when it says "MONROE" on the back of our left tackles jersey when the season starts.

No offense, but if you're right about this, I'm going to start a grass roots campaign to get you banned...saying stuff like this is just sick and wrong. It's like you want me to be physically ill.

Crush 04-08-2009 09:14 PM

Abominations 1:23 - It was then in the darkest hour that I saw a star fall from Heaven unto the Bottomless Pit and a LT emerged from the mist. Yea, it was then that I knew that the 3rd Pick of 32 was wasted in the name of the RT.

Reaper16 04-08-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652893)
LG. In Philadelphia.

That's why Alex Mack is playing center for the Chiefs. We got the 18th and 24th from them for Larry, Tony and Brian.

We picked Monroe with the #3, Clint Sintim with the #18 and Alex Mack with the #24. Fortunately, Kraig Urbik was still on the board when we picked in the third round.

Four potential Hall of Fame guys now on the offensive line, and three of them in this draft.

Jesus...what show have you guys been watching?

Joke account.

htismaqe 04-08-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5652997)
Joke account.

No, he was serious at one point, but all the arguing seems to have pushed him into changing his posting style. Unfortunately, it appears that he's jumped the shark.

LaChapelle 04-08-2009 09:34 PM

Need those ratings to ratchet up prime time commerical prices. They pay Kiper to be no better than he is.

Crush 04-08-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5653008)
No, he was serious at one point, but all the arguing seems to have pushed him into changing his posting style. Unfortunately, it appears that he's jumped the shark.


If that is the case, he needs to have a Ted McGinley avatar ASAP.

Chiefnj2 04-08-2009 09:36 PM

One of two scenarios are at play.

Either KC does think Monroe is better than Albert and may be willing to flip them; or

They think Cincy or somebody else will want to move up and take Monroe so they are feigning interest.

Nightfyre 04-08-2009 09:37 PM

Jesus h christ. Three olinemen who haven't played a down and they've been annointed hall of famers?
Posted via Mobile Device

Crush 04-08-2009 09:37 PM

... or this is all smokescreen because no one knows what Pioli is going to do.

Tribal Warfare 04-08-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5653025)
... or this is all smokescreen because no one knows what Pioli is going to do.

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!

SBK 04-08-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5652935)
the eagles are going to trade 2 first round draft picks for a bunch of over-30 yrs old players from one of the worst teams in the league....one of whom is an alcoholic, women beating quitter who was suspended last year...



this rivals the dumbest things ever typed on the planet

The previous dumbest thing ever laughs at his post for being reeruned.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5652961)
No offense, but if you're right about this, I'm going to start a grass roots campaign to get you banned...saying stuff like this is just sick and wrong. It's like you want me to be physically ill.

It's as relevant and likely as the Chiefs picking Sanchez or Stafford, and you know it. Probably more so actually.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5652968)
Abominations 1:23 - It was then in the darkest hour that I saw a star fall from Heaven unto the Bottomless Pit and a LT emerged from the mist. Yea, it was then that I knew that the 3rd Pick of 32 was wasted in the name of the RT.

Best one yet by far.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5653500)
It's as relevant and likely as the Chiefs picking Sanchez or Stafford, and you know it. Probably more so actually.

I never said it was relevant, or possible.

It's just stupid. And it makes me want to puke.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5653022)
One of two scenarios are at play.

Either KC does think Monroe is better than Albert and may be willing to flip them; or

They think Cincy or somebody else will want to move up and take Monroe so they are feigning interest.

I sincerely hope it's the latter.

kcbubb 04-09-2009 09:44 AM

I would rather pick Monroe than Sanchez.

Think about this. When the Chiefs had the BEST offense in the NFL, they had Trent Green, Priest Holmes and Eddie Kennison at three of the most important positions on offense. All three were serviceable at best without a great offensive line.

Not my first choice, but I don't think it would be terrible.

Mr. Krab 04-09-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5652817)
no shit

mcintosh at guard?


reeruned

You would know more than Pioli.

kcbubb 04-09-2009 10:07 AM

McIntosh does have a few starts at guard. I would think that he wouldn't be quick enough play guard, but he does have some experience at it.

bdeg 04-09-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5654000)
McIntosh does have a few starts at guard. I would think that he wouldn't be quick enough play guard, but he does have some experience at it.

He has no drive, he would get overpowered. He wouldn't open a hole all season. I wouldn't be worried about his quickness in passblocking, but he would get bullrushed straight into the qb constantly.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5653961)
I would rather pick Monroe than Sanchez.

Think about this. When the Chiefs had the BEST offense in the NFL, they had Trent Green, Priest Holmes and Eddie Kennison at three of the most important positions on offense. All three were serviceable at best without a great offensive line.

Not my first choice, but I don't think it would be terrible.

And they had ONE first round draft pick on the offensive line. ONE. And it wasnt' even ours. Will Shields, like ALOT of superior offensive guards, was a MID-ROUND PICK.

The idea that we'd move Albert, after the rookie season he had, is just preposterous. You don't **** with potential greatness. Ever.

SBK 04-09-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5653961)
I would rather pick Monroe than Sanchez.

Think about this. When the Chiefs had the BEST offense in the NFL, they had Trent Green, Priest Holmes and Eddie Kennison at three of the most important positions on offense. All three were serviceable at best without a great offensive line.

Not my first choice, but I don't think it would be terrible.

I enjoyed celebrating all those Super Bowl wins too!!

OnTheWarpath15 04-09-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5654000)
McIntosh does have a few starts at guard. I would think that he wouldn't be quick enough play guard, but he does have some experience at it.

It has more to do with the fact that he's a terrible run blocker.

His lack of speed is another issue altogether.

McIntosh at guard = EPIC FAIL.

ChiefsCountry 04-09-2009 11:01 AM

San Diego and Miami already tried to have him play guard and he failed. Besides we have Goff and Waters at guard no need to move McSuck there. I wish people would use their ****ing brains on that.

The Franchise 04-09-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5654210)
San Diego and Miami already tried to have him play guard and he failed. Besides we have Goff and Waters at guard no need to move McSuck there. I wish people would use their ****ing brains on that.

McIntosh has one place and one place only. On the FA market with no calls coming in.

kcbubb 04-09-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5654171)
I enjoyed celebrating all those Super Bowl wins too!!

that was obviously bc of the defense not the offense. if any of Vermeils drafts would have been good, we could have had a chance.

SBK 04-09-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5654303)
that was obviously bc of the defense not the offense. if any of Vermeils drafts would have been good, we could have had a chance.

The point is with an all world O line we didn't win dick.

milkman 04-11-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5654303)
that was obviously bc of the defense not the offense. if any of Vermeils drafts would have been good, we could have had a chance.

Meanwhile Peyton Manning and the Colts have been successful for a decade, winning a lot more games than they've lost, winning playoff games, and winning the SB, all while having a mediocre or worse defense throughout.

The Steelers, last year, won a SB with a crappy O-Line.

Chiefnj2 04-11-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5655539)
The point is with an all world O line we didn't win dick.

Was someone arguing that all you need is an all world OL to win championships?

SBK 04-11-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5659987)
Was someone arguing that all you need is an all world OL to win championships?

Anyone that argues for taking a 2nd LT is making this point correct?

RustShack 04-11-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5659987)
Was someone arguing that all you need is an all world OL to win championships?

So then why are people suggesting taking another LT?

Hammock Parties 04-11-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5652670)

If Smith happened to fall, the Chiefs could leave Albert on the left side and kick ORT Damion McIntosh inside to guard, significantly improving the pocket.

How can anyone be so ****ing stupid?

McIntosh would be a ****ing terrible guard.

Saccopoo 04-25-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5652929)
And remember who said it first here when it says "MONROE" on the back of our left tackles jersey when the season starts.

Just a little pre-draft appetizer from April 8th...

htismaqe 04-25-2009 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5660555)
How can anyone be so ****ing stupid?

McIntosh would be a ****ing terrible guard.

Exactly. This article is horseshit.

We just ****ing signed MIKE GOFF.

We have our starting Right Guard.

htismaqe 04-25-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5704284)
Just a little pre-draft appetizer from April 8th...

**** off.

At least save the gloating until after we totally **** up the draft.


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