Chiefs sign Zach Thomas
 

http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...y/1137526.html

The Chiefs have agreed to terms with linebacker Zach Thomas.

Thomas, 35, is a 13-year veteran who started 14 games for the Dallas Cowboys last season and has made 20.5 career sacks. He spent the first 12 years of his career with the Miami Dolphins.

Is this a joke?

If not I'm ready to see him get some concussions.

print em!

that's strike 14! /hamas

:popcorn:

If this is true as shitty as we are at that position I don't think anyone is going to complain...oh and his sister is really hot.

This would've been really cool if this happened 7 years earlier.Now, it's just an indifferent issue.

Sort of rules out Aaron Curry.

this is about the locker room as much the field....fine by me

I know child workers in India who have made a hell of a lot more sacks.

Had 94 tackles last year. No harm to see what he has.

And his BIL is an over the hill pass rusher.

Perfect for Pioli.

Does this mean DJ is moving back outside, or is he just going to be a backup? Or I guess maybe we'll have two ILBs.

He's listed at 242. Seems a little smallish for an ILB in a 3-4.

Either way, I like the exchange of Zach Thomas for Pat Thomas.

Yep.

How?

Really? Ummmm...ok...I guess.

The word on the street is that they think he has potential as a pass rusher and they can train him.

Holy Shit!

I can't imagine the Chiefs are moving DJ outside.

Zach Thomas just played inside in Dallas 3-4 last year so lets not act like he can't do that..

And you'd think it may rule out Curry because Thomas and DJ are both inside backers in a 3-4.

Actually, this is a typical patriot's type signing. Pioli stacked the LB position with smart veteran role players for Belichick. Somehow, I doubt Clancy Pendergast will use them as well.

Can't find anything to complain about with this.

Because our two ILB's will be Thomas and DJ.

I like it.

I think him and Vrabel both bring great veteran leadership at a position and on a defense that is in dire need of some.

We have to get Raji or signing all these veteran linebackers is just going to look dumb.

With a nose tackle they'll be playmakers. Without one they'll be old guys getting killed.

Still kind of weird we cut Donnie Edwards.

Really...

In my opinion...I just don't give a shit about #3 anymore.

We take Curry? Fine.
We take Sanchez? Fine.
We take Crabtree? Fine.
We take Raji? Fine.
We trade down? Super.

I'm just happy we're going to have a legitimate chance to compete in the West next year.

Looks legit. Good guy in the locker room to teach the youngsters.

This is really about how I am now too.

He's done, he couldn't stay on the field last year and in a 3-4 his position is the same one DJ has to play.

Thomas is starting? We know this?

Why?

Donnie Edwards was never as good as Vrabel or Zach Thomas.

.................Page........................Morgan..................

Flowers........Vrabel...DJ...Thomas...Beisel..............Carr

......................Tyler....Raji...McBride.......................

Hali - backup OLB/3rd down pass rush specialist
Johnston - backup OLB
Edwards - backup nose tackle?
Pollard - bust

Oh yes I'm sure he signed here to be a backup on a team with one of the worst LB corps in the entire league.

Guys like Monty Beisel sign to be backups not Zach Thomas.

exactly...Pioli is trying to bring in leaders.

Die dumbass.

I don't think theres any way Beisel actually starts, I'd expect a drafted player to end up in that spot.

I'm not so sure about Curry now.

I'm talking about the veteran leadership part, I think Edwards knows hes a backup now.

It appears the Chiefs expect their backup LB's to be really good special teams guys if their signings show anything.

Dorsey?

We can't just write him off already, can we?

So you don't know.

One of the things you want from veteran leaders is the ability to help players to learn to use fundamentals.

Donnie Edwards was never a fundamentally sound tackler, so he brings nothing to the table as a veteran backup leader.

Well linemen rotate and he'll play in 4-3 looks and I'm sure they'll see if he can play end in 3-4.

If we do take Raji however I'd expect Dorsey to look good in 4-3 pass rush situations since he'd be able to play next to a huge guy that can take out the double team nose.

If Zach Thomas was signing to be a backup I'm pretty sure he'd pick a much better team.

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.................Page........................Morgan..................

Flowers........Brown...DJ...Thomas...Vrabel..............Carr

......................Tyler....Raji....McBride.......................

Hali - backup OLB/3rd down pass rush specialist
Dorsey - backup DE/3rd down pass rush specialist
Johnston - backup OLB
Edwards - backup nose tackle?
Pollard - bust

We could maybe get a good 3-4 DE in the third round, too.

Monty Beisels are signed to play special teams. Zack Thomas can be signed to play quiet a bit, rotate in and out, to be a coach on the field and help young players.

Surely we could trade Dorsey and eat the cap hit?

We could get a middle 1st for the guy...even a late 1st. You're telling me a team in the back end of the 1st round won't take a promising DT that doesn't fit our scheme?

I'd rather trade the guy than use him as a specialist. He's a top 5 pick for crying out loud!

Maybe he didn't have his pick of teams.

YES.

NO AARON CURRY.

THANK YOU GOD.

2001 called. They want their linebacker back.

Thomas will teach Curry how to play LB! /true fan

It reminds me of when the Pats signed Junior Seau. He didn't play like when he was young but he gave them a couple of good years. I'm fine with it.

What is the point of this argument anyhow? Is your heart that set on Curry or something?

San Diego is obviously better than us on paper...

BUT...they have Norv Turner.

If we field a defense that doesn't suck, and finds the QB...we have an offense that can score points.

HOOTIE IS BACK ON THE AFC WEST CHAMPIONS BANDWAGON!

I could see either way still....

----------Morgan----Pollard
Flowers------Curry--Thomas--DJ--------Carr
-----------Vrable-Dorsey-Tank-Hali

--------------Morgan----------Pollard
Floweres------Robinson-Thomas-DJ-Vrable-------Carr
---------------Dorsey----Raji----Tank

I agree. Raji and yes, this is very similar to the Patriots M.O.
Bryan Cox, Roman Pfifer, Junior Seau. Veteran leaders at LB. It doesn't rule out drafting young studs. But generally, the Patriots draft on build the lines and sign veterans at LB. Mayo was the exception.
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The question we have to ask now is can the Chiefs win NOW?

Pioli and Haley are sending that message.

ROFL

OH no.

But...but he was so CUTE! :rolleyes:

Goddamn you Wendler; you will RUE THE DAY! :cuss:

If this team starts Tamba Hali as a OLB that is not going to be pretty.

I bet your pussy is really hurting now isn't it?

Him or McBride would be used like Miami uses Roth at OLB... Not my ideal situation though.

I'd honestly rather have Beisel starting at OLB than Hali.

1999 called. They want their joke back.

No, although I think he's the best player in the draft. Frankly I don't know what I'm arguing. I guess just that I don't think this signing means no Curry. Maybe it's me hoping it doesn't mean Orakpo.

I really don't understand this......at all.

if this means no curry, than im all for it

I think this frees us up a bit.

We don't have to make ILB a priority in this Draft. We can focus elsewhere.

Which is great. ILB is one of the last positions you have to worry about when it comes to building a 3-4 defense. DL, DL, DL.

Oh yeah? Well, the jerk store called...

I want Raji and Dorsey in the middle, BTW.

guys take a step back this signing has nothing to do with curry if we want him at 3 we get him thomas isnt a full time player at this point in his career and probably not even a starter he could be a mentor on the field to curry so again in no way does this affect whether curry goes to us

Trade down at mid to late 1st to get Barwin.

Give me all your phone numbers and I'll call and tell all you dumbasses to shut the **** up.

It's called our linebackers suck.

Works for me. But how much is the 4-3 going to be used?

Your unnatural love of this guy is starting to go overboard, he shouldn't be going in the middle of the 1st round, he'll be lucky to even go in the 1st round.

If thats what our players are best suited for then thats what we will run most...