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Huffman83 04-13-2009 04:41 PM

Chiefs on the clock report (nfl network.)
 
Coming up soon.

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:42 PM

They're going to give us an OT....

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 04:42 PM

Yay!

More poorly thought out smokescreens.

Pablo 04-13-2009 04:44 PM

And with the 3rd overall pick in the 2009 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

Name: Jesus Christ

Position: Our Lord and Savior

School: Jerusalem State

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 04:45 PM

Who the **** is Al Wallace?

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 04:45 PM

JESUS SAVES!

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5666224)
And with the 3rd overall pick in the 2009 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

Name: Jesus Christ

Postion: Our Lord and Savior

School: Jerusalem State

LMAO

Huffman83 04-13-2009 04:46 PM

that's what I was thinking....

Rausch 04-13-2009 04:46 PM

Whatever. Bringing in Thomas DOES NOT mean you'd pass on Curry.

The Bad Guy 04-13-2009 04:46 PM

The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

Huffman83 04-13-2009 04:47 PM

"Is the town warming up to Matt Cassel?"


......................................

Micjones 04-13-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666233)
The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

Just what I was thinking.
Some people around these parts are gonna have a shit ton of crow to eat if Curry pans out.

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666233)
The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

Frank - if he only becomes a "good" player, then people SHOULD hate on him.

Solid doesn't cut it that early - you better get a great, impact, game-changing player.

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:49 PM

What's your definition of good....

An ILB is going to have to be a dominant player for a very long period of time to justify that draft selection.

Rausch 04-13-2009 04:49 PM

Any expert predicting a Chiefs pick should just say "Day one we know they'll draft a safety."

Huffman83 04-13-2009 04:49 PM

I'm all about more early draft picks. But I'm hoping Curry is too good to pass up.

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huffman83 (Post 5666244)
I'm all about more early draft picks. But I'm hoping Curry is too good to pass up.

Wait what?

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5666243)
Any expert predicting a Chiefs pick should just say "Day one we know they'll draft a safety."

I'll take that next year...

The Bad Guy 04-13-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5666238)
Frank - if he only becomes a "good" player, then people SHOULD hate on him.

Solid doesn't cut it that early - you better get a great, impact, game-changing player.

I don't see an impact game changer in this draft. In 2 years, I may be wrong, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit with this draft.

I think most on here are too tied up into the fact that every year there are bonifide studs at the top. This year, there aren't. The draft isn't a cookie cutter situation.

Rausch 04-13-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666250)
I'll take that next year...

Hold on, forgot the 3rd round is day 2 now...

RealSNR 04-13-2009 04:53 PM

If I had a crystal ball and I saw that Curry was the next Lawrence Taylor, I would draft him at 3, yes.

The odds of that happening? Mmmmnyorp.

SAUTO 04-13-2009 04:54 PM

when is it going to be on?

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5666260)
Hold on, forgot the 3rd round is day 2 now...

Like I said I'll take that next year...there's gonna be 2 of the best safety prospects ever in that class.

SAUTO 04-13-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666267)
Like I said I'll take that next year...there's gonna be 2 of the best safety prospects ever in that class.

mays and.....

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5666268)
mays and.....

Eric Berry.

SAUTO 04-13-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666271)
Eric Berry.

thanks

Mecca 04-13-2009 04:58 PM

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SAUTO 04-13-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666277)
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i dont have time to watch right now, did he die??? wait it used to say berry tribute final

Dave Lane 04-13-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666233)
The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

I don't like the pick at all at #3 but I'll understand if we do take him.

rockymtnchief 04-13-2009 05:01 PM

I'm glad ya said Berry. I'm keeping close tabs on him this year.

DJ's left nut 04-13-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666277)
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Looks like a nice enough player, but that clip doesn't tell us crap.

There were at least 5 picks in there where the QB flat out threw the ball at him. The TD runback was Tebow hitting him in the chest and him getting a running start with only the QB to beat. He only made a couple of plays that I thought were good strong plays on the ball, the rest were just gimme picks or right place/right time fumble recoveries. Oh, and he's got Pollard's disease, kept going high with the shoulder.

I'm certainly not ready to place him up there with Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott on the basis of that clip.

Micjones 04-13-2009 05:05 PM

Berry's supposed to be the better prospect of the two.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:06 PM

He has better ball skills, he's not as physically impressive...they're very close.

Take into account that video is of him as a true freshman.

doomy3 04-13-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666277)
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Berry's a freak.

He plays so fast and has great ball skills.

There were a couple shitty throws from Stafford on that video.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:10 PM

If you really wanna compare them, Berry has better ball skills and has some return ability. Mays is has better measurables and runs faster and is more of a hitter.

They'll likely both be great players although I'm not sure Berry is going to remain a strong safety at the next level with his 5'11 200lb build unless he really is Ed Reed.

Micjones 04-13-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666319)
He has better ball skills, he's not as physically impressive...they're very close.

Take into account that video is of him as a true freshman.

So we're talking Ed Reed vs. Troy Polamalu?

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666233)
The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

DJ is a good player. Drafted at #15 overall and disappointing ever since.

If we take Curry at #3 overall, he better be ALOT BETTER than "good".

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5666333)
So we're talking Ed Reed vs. Troy Polamalu?

In a way Berry is very similar to Reed in the way he's built and what he does. But I'm not sure there is a physical comparison for Mays, he is 6'3 230lbs and is the fastest guy on the SC roster, freaks like him are something to behold.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666259)
I don't see an impact game changer in this draft. In 2 years, I may be wrong, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit with this draft.

I think most on here are too tied up into the fact that every year there are bonifide studs at the top. This year, there aren't. The draft isn't a cookie cutter situation.

All the more reason to take a player with more value as opposed to someone with the least amount of value.

If the entire upper end of the 1st round doesn't have any bonafide studs, then you have to compare them some other way. Position is a logical place to start. Which moves Curry down the list yet again.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:13 PM

Taylor Mays says hello.

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htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5666292)
I don't like the pick at all at #3 but I'll understand if we do take him.

This.

Just Passin' By 04-13-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5666336)
DJ is a good player. Drafted at #15 overall and disappointing ever since.

If we take Curry at #3 overall, he better be ALOT BETTER than "good".

This is where the problem lies in the Curry debate, from what I'm seeing here. There are no non-tackle prospects that one can reasonably and confidently claim will be "ALOT BETTER than "good"". It's just that kind of draft.

Just Passin' By 04-13-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5666344)
All the more reason to take a player with more value as opposed to someone with the least amount of value.

If the entire upper end of the 1st round doesn't have any bonafide studs, then you have to compare them some other way. Position is a logical place to start. Which moves Curry down the list yet again.

Since there are no bonafide studs, the next move is to take the player you think is most likely to be a good player for you, regardless of position, but taking need into account. Your moving Curry would be all well and good IF THEY COULD TRADE THE PICK AND GET CURRY AT A LOWER SPOT. Since there is no publicly known likelihood of that, your codicil makes no sense.

KcFanInGA 04-13-2009 05:18 PM

Holy shit! Thanks for posting that vid Mecca! I dont watch as much college ball as I should and had not heard about this guy Berry.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:18 PM

Personally I'm leaning Raji no NT for a 3-4 equals complete suck.

KcFanInGA 04-13-2009 05:20 PM

We are going D in this draft. Our Offense actually scored a decent amount last year, so I have a feeling Pioli and Haley will be looking D for sure. I agree with waiting on a safety after watching Berry, and I see good Oline choices in this draft, so Im hoping we go that route.

KcFanInGA 04-13-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666374)
Personally I'm leaning Raji no NT for a 3-4 equals complete suck.

But can Raji play in the 4-3? They said we'd probably be using a mix this year, working into the 3-4 slowly. If he can then he'd make sense there.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:23 PM

Well he's been in a 4-3 in college...

RUSH 04-13-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5666224)
And with the 3rd overall pick in the 2009 draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

Name: Jesus Christ

Position: Our Lord and Savior

School: Jerusalem State

LOL...well played sir

DTLB58 04-13-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666374)
Personally I'm leaning Raji no NT for a 3-4 equals complete suck.

Holy crap! We agree!

:doh!:

DTLB58 04-13-2009 05:35 PM

Mayock just said Monroe OT.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcFanInGA (Post 5666383)
We are going D in this draft.

No.

This is a terrible year for defensive players. 2010 is the year for defensive players.

Why go against the draft? If you do that, it's called reaching.

The Chiefs need as many as three offensive lineman (four if Waters is moved).

It may not be "sexy" but this is the year for the line.

ToxSocks 04-13-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 5666473)
Mayock just said Monroe OT.

As long as he plays RT.....I guess

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcFanInGA (Post 5666392)
But can Raji play in the 4-3? They said we'd probably be using a mix this year, working into the 3-4 slowly. If he can then he'd make sense there.

Most have said he's better-suited to be a 4-3 undertackle actually.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5666367)
Since there are no bonafide studs, the next move is to take the player you think is most likely to be a good player for you, regardless of position, but taking need into account. Your moving Curry would be all well and good IF THEY COULD TRADE THE PICK AND GET CURRY AT A LOWER SPOT. Since there is no publicly known likelihood of that, your codicil makes no sense.

I don't care if other teams are stupid enough to draft the guy in the top 5. I just hope the Chiefs aren't.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5666476)
No.

This is a terrible year for defensive players. 2010 is the year for defensive players.

Why go against the draft? If you do that, it's called reaching.

The Chiefs need as many as three offensive lineman (four if Waters is moved).

It may not be "sexy" but this is the year for the line.

I don't have a problem with taking linemen with every pick EXCEPT the #3 overall.

Priest31kc 04-13-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5666476)
No.

This is a terrible year for defensive players. 2010 is the year for defensive players.

Why go against the draft? If you do that, it's called reaching.

The Chiefs need as many as three offensive lineman (four if Waters is moved).

It may not be "sexy" but this is the year for the line.

Agreed, we got our QB, lets go get offense this offseason. It'll make us exciting to watch, get fans back, and we'll improve the defense next offseason and hopefully be major contenders in 2010.

Mecca 04-13-2009 06:14 PM

I'm fine other than we shouldn't be taking an offensive lineman with a top 3 pick.

evolve27 04-13-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666591)
I'm fine other than we shouldn't be taking an offensive lineman with a top 3 pick.

Zach Thomas signing speaks volumes or does it? The 2009 Mike Mayock NFL Draft is gonna blow up this year at pick 3.

Mecca 04-13-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5666675)
Zach Thomas signing speaks volumes or does it?

What if BJ Raji is their guy?

evolve27 04-13-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666686)
What if BJ Raji is their guy?

That'd be good! Never really thought of that. Stupid question, who's our D Coord.? I'm going to hell i know.

Huffman83 04-13-2009 06:45 PM

For those that missed it, the video player on the right hand side of the page has the story.


http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascityc...rofile?team=KC

Kyle DeLexus 04-13-2009 07:07 PM

It'd be nice to trade down where we can pick up DHB and get a few more picks maybe pick up one of the pass rushing tweeners somewhere then build the line. Get one of the C's and revamp our right side. If we trade Tony for ATL's 2nd it would help this.

T-post Tom 04-13-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 5666473)
Mayock just said Monroe OT.

What? No "JFC" from the board arbiter of all things football? No casting of aspersions on Mayock's family? This is a first. :)

Pioli Zombie 04-13-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5666238)
Frank - if he only becomes a "good" player, then people SHOULD hate on him.

Solid doesn't cut it that early - you better get a great, impact, game-changing player.

Yeah he better be a great, outstanding hall of famer like Mark Sanchez.
Posted via Mobile Device

bowener 04-13-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666347)
Taylor Mays says hello.

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xv2iN4bUeVM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>

Herbstreet is a pussy QB...."you cant do that..."

Bullshit, if I am a 230lb safety you'd better know that I am going to try and kill people. Plus, that was almost entirely all shoulder pad to the helmet.

EyePod 04-13-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666242)
What's your definition of good....

An ILB is going to have to be a dominant player for a very long period of time to justify that draft selection.

Who do you think we should draft instead. I've seen you pick apart every single draft pick. MECCA - WHO SHOULD THE CHIEFS PICK IF THEY CAN'T TRADE DOWN?

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5667380)
Who do you think we should draft instead. I've seen you pick apart every single draft pick. MECCA - WHO SHOULD THE CHIEFS PICK IF THEY CAN'T TRADE DOWN?

But you haven't seen him answer this very question eleventy billion times?

EyePod 04-13-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5666333)
So we're talking Ed Reed vs. Troy Polamalu?

I could care less who I had out of that group. I'd be plenty satisfied with either.

EyePod 04-13-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5667392)
But you haven't seen him answer this very question eleventy billion times?

Correct. I haven't seen him ever say anything. We all know that he wanted Sanchez. Who does he think the Chiefs should draft at #3. I know he says we screwed ourselves over by making our pick less valuable, but I don't know who he thinks we can get for the best value. I have gone out and said Crabtree is the best value we can get. I have not seen him say anyone.

Kyle DeLexus 04-13-2009 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5667400)
Correct. I haven't seen him ever say anything. We all know that he wanted Sanchez. Who does he think the Chiefs should draft at #3. I know he says we screwed ourselves over by making our pick less valuable, but I don't know who he thinks we can get for the best value. I have gone out and said Crabtree is the best value we can get. I have not seen him say anyone.

I've seen him say Raji many times actually.

EyePod 04-13-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 5667416)
I've seen him say Raji many times actually.

I must have missed it. I'm OK with Raji or Crabtree. I think the tackles are a waste.

milkman 04-13-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5667400)
Correct. I haven't seen him ever say anything. We all know that he wanted Sanchez. Who does he think the Chiefs should draft at #3. I know he says we screwed ourselves over by making our pick less valuable, but I don't know who he thinks we can get for the best value. I have gone out and said Crabtree is the best value we can get. I have not seen him say anyone.

He has answered that question.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666591)
I'm fine other than we shouldn't be taking an offensive lineman with a top 3 pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5666538)
I don't have a problem with taking linemen with every pick EXCEPT the #3 overall.

Me, too. I'd be happy if the Chiefs selected three offense lineman in rounds 2-5 (if they recover a 2nd).

The line needs to be rebuilt.

NOW.

The Franchise 04-13-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5667400)
Correct. I haven't seen him ever say anything. We all know that he wanted Sanchez. Who does he think the Chiefs should draft at #3. I know he says we screwed ourselves over by making our pick less valuable, but I don't know who he thinks we can get for the best value. I have gone out and said Crabtree is the best value we can get. I have not seen him say anyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666374)
Personally I'm leaning Raji no NT for a 3-4 equals complete suck.

Do you not read?

EyePod 04-13-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5667442)
Do you not read?

Nope, I don't read at all. It's because I have my foot in my mouth, and it's too hard to see because I'm all contorted....

milkman 04-13-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5667451)
Nope, I don't read at all. It's because I have my foot in my mouth, and it's too hard to see because I'm all contorted....

That's OK, that's a position most of us are familiar with

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-13-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666347)
Taylor Mays says hello.

<object width="425" height="344">


<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xv2iN4bUeVM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>

"But...but...Penn State sucks and USC never plays anyone good or great, so he CAN'T be good".

Our next performance of True Fan Theater will air at 10:00pm MST.
Thank you, that is all.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 5666473)
Mayock just said Monroe OT.

Piss on Mayock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5666889)
Yeah he better be a great, outstanding hall of famer like Mark Sanchez.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yeah, he ****ing better. For that grip, you are damned, ****ing right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5667363)
Herbstreet is a pussy QB...."you cant do that..."

Bullshit, if I am a 230lb safety you'd better know that I am going to try and kill people. Plus, that was almost entirely all shoulder pad to the helmet.

That's what I saw.

soundmind 04-13-2009 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666347)
Taylor Mays says hello.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xv2iN4bUeVM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xv2iN4bUeVM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

If I'm not mistaken, this hit now costs 15yds and a first in the NFL???

I only hear and witness good things from Mays though, he looks legit. He really likes to hit, so if he can also show that hawking ability, I think there's a serious weapon heading into the NFL...

melbar 04-13-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666242)
What's your definition of good....

An ILB is going to have to be a dominant player for a very long period of time to justify that draft selection.

I think he has as good a chance as anyone.

I go back to the useual question.

If that player isnt Curry. Then who for this team?


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