On Record: Who do the Chiefs pick?
 

lay it on the line, sometime before the draft:

Who do the Chiefs pick? If there is a trade down, say so....


this has nothing to do with your desires, you aren't advocating the pick, only a cold hard calculation on what our team does...


my pick is: Raji

Curry

they trade down, and still get Curry.

Trade down. Not sure where or who the pick is, though.

Trade down or Curry

Trade down or Raji

and who do we take if we trade down?

After much internal debate (or was that the beans?), I'm sticking with what I said in January:

Raji 60%
Orakpo 25%
Curry 15%

If they trade down, it won't be very far, and they'll be looking at the same players in the same order.

(In one change from Jan., Brown is no longer on my list, replaced by Curry.)

Sanchez

trade down.... this off season has been getting better .
Pick.... depends BPA.

Trade Down with Denver:

12: DHB
18: Trade with Arizona
31: Mack/Unger

If their isn't a trade down then it'll be Everrette Brown

if their's a trade with Denver then it'll Rey Maulauga and Connor Barwin
and a trade with the Redskins the pick will be Tyson Jackson.

Trade down.

I like this game:

They trade down and don't quite get book value, but a reasonable deal nonetheless.

Their first pick will be either Raji or Tyson Jackson. If they're both gone, then they'll pick someone with a track record of getting after the QB.

Their second pick will an offensive lineman.

Their third pick will be a WR or LB, depending on which position has the higher ranked player [on their board.]

After that...who knows?

Your mom.

They'll try to trade down and when they can't they'll shock everyone and take Michael Crabtree.

.....or something lol.

trade down to get Tyson Jackson or stay and get Aaron Curry

Trade down. And then we pick a kicker.

Seriously, I have no idea who we pick if we trade down. Depends on the position. I will say if we trade down we'll almost certainly get a lineman of some kind.

It wouldn't surpise me at all if Pioli builds the team from the line out in the draft.

My gut wants Curry but after picking up the old LB's we might pick that position later and hope they can teach the young guys.

If they stay at 3 Sanchez

If they trade down it will be with San Fran and grab Tyson Jackson

They trade down and take a defensive player, for the fun of it I'll say Tyson Jackson.

i agree butt only after a tradedown.

I think they trade down with Cleveland and take Tyson Jackson. If they are stuck at 3 I think they still take Jackson.

Tyson Jackson either at 3 or more likely in a trade down

They won't have any worthwhile offers to trade down.

Raji

DHB at 12?? :rolleyes: I guess that makes about as much sense as most of your posts.

Chiefs trade down to #10 and take Tyson Jackson.

Hopefully a trade down,im still not sure about the pick...

I would agree with a trade down and Tyson Jackson being a very likely choice.

its either gonna be eugene monroe or jason smith aaron curry or everett brown imo i dont want tyson jackson i dont like drafting a player just because there a workout warrior or have a mediocre college career but have a great combine

Get your own prediction, dick-knuckle.

I;m good with that, except the poor Defense.

I think they stay at #3 (not for lack of trying to move down) and take the big man, Raji.

I think if they are taking a "workout warrior" it would be Orakpo, not Jackson. Please, no Orakpo.

Does everyone really read the entire thread before posting? I posted, then I looked to make sure I wasn't influenced.

But, since, I have to get my own prediction.... FINE!

Chiefs trade to #4 with Seattle and pick up a third round pick. Then they trade down to Eight and pick up a second. The Chiefs then trade to 17, the Jets, and pick up another second and third.

At 17, the Chiefs take Mark Sanchez who has gone into freefall. Then, they trade him to the Broncos for their 18th pick, as well as a second in this draft and a first and second in next years draft.

With the 18th, they take Freeman. They then trade him to Tampa Bay for Tampa's entire draft.

Okay, Now, with the #19th pick, they choose Aaron Curry, who has went into freefall after Pioli started a rumor on Friday morning about his affection for small farm animals.

There, now, I have my very OWN prediction.

Chiefs trade down with the Bengals for their 1st and 2nd.

The Chiefs take B.J. Raji with the 6th pick.

Trade with the Browns:
Chiefs Receive:
B. Edwards
Pick 36 (With which we draft Barwin if he remains on the Board.)
Brown's 2010 1st

Browns Receive:
Pick 3

Because its my favorite scenario.

Honestly, selecting Tyson Jackson would be anticlimatic to the umpteenth degree. I can't really get that excited about the selection.

Trade down or Curry. I have no idea who we'd pick (or who's available) at wherever we do pick. Soooo....in the end, Curry or *insert best player available after trade down*.

i think he's a smokescreen

Don't think we will be able to trade down, though i sincerely hope I'm wrong. Think we'll take Monroe, unless St. Louis doesn't take Smith then we'll take him.

He's no Barwin.

I'm going trade down and Maualuga.

We're gonna get Edwards and a second rounder to move down two spots? Pioli's good, he's not God

And a first rounder next year...:banghead:

I think we get curry. we can't afford to go el busto on this pick

No Trade- E. Brown

Trade- E. Brown (R. Maualuga close second)

Trade down and get Raji

I'll go trade down and Heyward-Bay.

Trade down, pick Oher in the first and Paul Kruger in the second with the compensatory picks.

Because, if you watch the tape/vids, Kruger is a substantially better player than any of the DE/OLB tweeners that we'll plug in as the weak side, standup ROLB, especially Orakpo. 'po plays short/compact. He doesn't extend himself on tackles, where Kruger plays like he's about 11 feet tall. In addition, Kruger is superb in drop back coverage - something that will be asked of the ROLB.

I have the DE's ranked as follows:

Everrete Brown- FSU
Brian Orakpo- UT
Larry English- UNI
Michael Johnson- GT
Tyson Jackson- LSU
Conner Barwin- Cinn
Phillip Hunt- Houston
Robert Ayers- Tenn
Paul Kruger- Utah

Of course, I am no scout, and this is my first year being super pumped for the draft.

I think Brown has the intangibles despite his size. I also really, really like Phillip Hunt as a late round pick. Kid has smarts, heart, and a great work ethic.

CRAP. I screwed this up, I'm changing to trade down and pick E. Brown, DE, FSU.

Also, maybe its just me, but i think Jackson is a cross between Eric Hicks and Tamba Hali.... yikes!

That's like asking if you prefer a runny shit or a solid shit, and then settling on diarrhea.

Haha... my thoughts exactly. His highlight videos are garbage. The featured play is him running around for ten seconds, and then eventually catching up to Tebow after he stops to look around. Then Tebow throws it away.

Now THAT'S neat.

I don't think there's a chance the Chiefs are able to trade out of 3.

My bad, Tebow ALMOST throws it away. Nevermind.

JACKSON IS GOD.

Ah yea, typo, edited and fixed.

Great minds think alike

I think they'll trade down at least once, if not twice

I'll be shocked if they don't trade down now. Curry if they don't. If they do, I have no clue who'll they take.

I still think it's funny that people think it's even remotely possible that we make a trade with Denver.

Here's to hoping they can trade down...

If not, then Take Monroe, Curry or Raji. I've not looked at the 2010 class well enough to pick amongst them myself. I think taking Monroe makes us better right now, but I think the others give us brighter futures.

However, my vote is to trade down - and select the best front 7 defensive player available. Get a 2 back and get an OT or Connor Barwin with that pick.

I'm guessing we trade down and take E. Brown. Makes much more sense than Jackson IMO.

Monroe

Let me fix that for you:

1. Paul Kruger
2. Brian Orakpo
3. Everette Brown
4. Robert Ayers
5. Tyson Jackson
6. Larry English
7. Cody Brown
8. Aaron Maybin
9. Connor Barwin
10. Lawrence Sidbury

Me too.

As far as what I want, I want to have 2 first rounders next year.

Your scouting abilities would be scrutinized from this corner for even including Michael Johnson. That kid runs like an excited duck, he will get mashed in the NFL.

Kruger number 1??

Yep. His only downfall is that he's missing a kidney. Otherwise, he's a complete player. Best player on a 13-0 BCS winning team. Absolutely dominates for a full game. Stong, fast, long, smart, instinctive, plays sideline to sideline and has the burst to chase down plays from behind. Is excellent in drop back coverage as well. Cerebral, but also plays nasty. IMHO, best DE in this draft.

Put on the game tapes of the Utah vs. Michigan and Utah vs. Alabama. He is absolutely dominant. Was completely unstoppable in the MWC and played big in the big games.

He is our Utah homer.

Thanks, but no thanks.

By the way, he is not only missing a kidney, he is also missing a spleen. And he is nowhere near the number one DE coming out. Come on, man. I know my list ain't perfect, but that's a joke.

And to follow it up by putting Orakpo in front of Brown? No way. Orakpo is high on my list purely on his physical ability. I think he takes plays/games off- but i couldnt throw any of the other guys in front of him with full confidence.

And I agree that Michael Johnson probably shouldnt be on the list- I threw him in the middle because of all the hype he had a few months ago. My bad.

Spleen? That's like missing a tonsil. And I'm totally serious about Kruger. None of the other DE's in this draft have his complete skill set. Not one. Find the Michigan game and Alabama game vids. Not Kruger highlights, but the actual game. Hell, any Utah game really. There is one guy that continually stands out every single game. That's Kruger. The guy is absolutely relentless with superb football instincts.

And yes, I put Orakpo in front of Brown. Brown seems to have a lot of love from this forum, but most guys in the know have him down the list due to the fact that all he can do, or has done, is go upfield in a speed rush. And he's probably maxed out his body. He's shorter than you would like on the outside as well. If he turns out to be Dwight Freeney that's one thing, but he hasn't shown enough, especially in the run game, to be that complete player. He's got an amazing first step, but that's just not enough to be anything other than the second coming of Elvis Dumervil - if he's lucky. Orakpo is big and amazingly strong which would help him against NFL caliber tackles. He also is able to play the run more effectively than Brown. He seems to be a bit stiff in his mechanics, but look to have more upside than Brown. Add to the argument that Brown was a 2nd Team All-American, while Orakpo was a consensus first team, and also won the Hendricks (top DE), the Lombardi (top D lineman) and Nagurski (top defensive player). Both are good players, but I think that Orakpo is the better player.

If they don't trade down the best tackle available.

If the do trade down probably the same scenario.

It all starts with the lines.

Kruger has short arms, lacks explosiveness, and has a bad injury history. He's pure dirt.

Of the last 10 teams to win a Super Bowl, how many had more than 1 first rounder on the line?

I don't know.

I'm making my guess by the draft strengths and the fact we already have our starting QB. You start at the QB and start working back from there when building a team.

Just a guess, nothing more.

The Pats won 3 Super Bowls, and had no first rounders on their line
The '99 Rams had 1, Pace
The 2000 Ravens had 1, Ogden
The 2002 Bucs had 1, and it was their RT, Kenyatta Walker
The 2005 Steelers had 3, they were a 6 seed, and none were taken higher than 23.
The 2006 Colts had 1, Tarik Glenn
The 2007 Giants had 0.
The 2008 Steelers had 0.

So, If you average those out you get an average of .7 first rounders per Super Bowl champion.

Five teams had no first rounders, 4 had 1, 0 had 2, and one had 3.

Of those 7 first rounders, 4 were taken in the top 20 and two in the top 10.

We already have one. Logic would dictate that we are far better served addressing other needs rather than bloating our cap with OL that we are unable to retain (see the Steelers with Hartings, Faneca, and Simmons).

Remember, even when we had our best line, there was only one first rounder on it, Roaf, two UDFAs (Waters and Wiegmann), a third rounder, and a fourth rounder.

Yeah but those teams you listed had several years of a consistent unit and much better coaching than most of the chiefs have ever had.

If we aren't winning the Super Bowl next year, and 2009 isn't the last NFL season ever, I fail to see what your point is.

you know I guess my point was that with a truly good o-line coach and a consistent unit of players you don't need first round lineman
I wasn't disagreeing

Actually, the Chiefs best line was Tait and Roaf at the OT spot. So, there were two first rounders.