Would you give up a late rd pick for Vick's rights?
 

Espn reported that Atlanta is shopping the rights to Vick? Would you toss out a 6th or 7th round pick?

If you deal with the PR nightmare, dude would be a beast coming in situational spots. Throw in the wildcat and you have a legitimate pass option.

Go fuck yourself..........seriously.

**** no

FAIL, Epic FAIL!

lol

Sure, then I'd take the contract, rub a raw Ribeye all over it, and feed it to a pitbull.

Hey, throw out the PR nightmare, and throw in that he would be reinstated immediately, where are you going to find Vick value in the 7th round???

What value?

Well he can probably toss a mean salad now!

Well unless he lost a lot in the pen, dude was a super freak athletically

Is he smart and dependable?

No further questions.

all f'n day

vick>thiggy

1. You can't throw out the PR nightmare. It's part of the deal.
2. Are you actually suggesting that QB's split time? Because if so, then follow post number 2's recomendations.
3. Vick was never a very good QB. He is a great athelete no doubt, but not a very good QB.
4. Why you think that its ok to have a PoS like him in the league to begin with is enough grounds for you to follow the 2nd post's instructions.

hey ray lewis is playing and he killed some dude

Dogs have more value then humans do.

1. i understand that, but just for discussion I wanted to take out those 2 factors because obviously that is the major problem
2. wildcat option
3. return punts
4. there are a lot of POS's out there, maybe dude is truly remorseful

alright thread dead, but remember a lot of you wanted ray lewis before he re-signed with the ravens

I'm sure he already has fond memories of Kansas..

AWESOME!ROFL

the only thing id want him for is a chew toy, and if the chiefs sign him, i will change my loyalties.

Why would you waste your time posting a ? like that? Its obvious that no one wants him or wants to deal with all the media bs that would come with him. Godell would be pretty stupid to reinstate him especially since he hasnt played in god knows how long. Besides why waste the money on him when hes only going to ride the bench, or even be a practice squad QB, doesnt seem very logical in my mind, and what would the chiefs gain outta trading a late pick for his rights?

That blow job from a tranny that someone was offering for Surtain

fail

Thread bump - He could become a Missourian
 

Rams interested in Vick

Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 31, 2009, 12:54 p.m.

The St. Louis Rams have emerged as a potential landing spot for suspended quarterback Michael Vick if he’s reinstated, and team officials have been performing their “due diligence,” according to Michael Lombardi of NFP and NFL Network.

Per the report, the Rams have “genuine interest” in Vick, who’s on house arrest in Virginia after serving 18 months in federal prison.

“Several people in the NFL told me not to rule out St. Louis as a possible destination for Vick,” Lombardi writes. “If [NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell] reinstates him, look for them to actively pursue him. It makes sense, a new coach with an older quarterback who hasn’t played well. Playing in a dome on carpet would highlight Vick’s speed and athleticism.”

Of course, the Rams being up for sale complicates Vick’s prospects because new ownership could be opposed to pursuing Vick.

Plus, Vick must show “genuine remorse,” in Goodell’s words, to gain reinstatement to the league.

Lombardi portrays Vick as having his head on straight and ready for a second chance.

“According to people I’ve talked to who are close to him, Vick is in great spirits and looking forward to the future,” Lombardi writes. “I’m told he’s in great ‘non-professional football shape’ and is determined to prove he can regain his superstar status in the NFL.

“He intends to spend more time studying the game, more time preparing to play, more time working on his game. Two years alone with nothing but your thoughts can be a powerful motivational tool.”

No only no, but hell no.

no way. Vick "Slasher" QB style just doesn't work. it was nice to see him get 56-10ed a few years ago at Arrowhead.

Vick is going to end up in Atlanta West. Bank on it.

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No, because he's black.

Would it be wrong if I said yes?

I'm an animal lover and abhor what he did, but the guy went to prison and that's what society has deemed to be an appropriate punishment for it. By law and by society's standards, he should be able to come out of prison with a blank slate. A blank slate and an amazing ability to run the ball. I wouldn't want him as a QB, but would consider him as a mutant QB/RB/WR kind of guy.

Tell that to the kid that steals a pack of smokes at 18 and can't get a job in the financial industry at 40.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

That isnt' how it works.

Do I detect a story here?

LMAO I'm not 40 you asshole!!!!!

Oh, well then you should have asked. I would have bought the smokes for you.

Not for me personally. I work as a credit manager, and could never have that position with any crime of dishonesty on my record. I do have a friend though who is a financial guru that is working in construction making less than half of his potential because of a class C misdemeanor he committed 15 years ago. And we wonder why the reoffender rate is so high? Not everyone has the morals my friend has.

The point I was trying to make is, this being the land of 2nd chances is a fallacy. Too much liability.

I can see him as a wild cat/WR/KR_PR guy not as a qb anymore.

Gambling and professional sports. It's not going to be an easy fix.

Well, the next time I'll definitely shoot you a smoke. :D

Man, I am genuinely surprised by the responses in this thread. I'm a dog lover and owner and I would gladly take Vick on the team as a slash type of weapon, especially for a 7th rd pick.

The guy has done more time than any one person would have served for similar crimes, will have the ongoing problems of being a felon for the rest of his life and people still want to punish him further? He did the crime and he did his time, isn't that what society asks for? RayRay and Leonard Little both killed people and where is the PR nightmare and backlash regarding this, THAT is what I find more disgusting than anything. Little has been in the league for years since killing a MOTHER and it appears to be a forgiven or at least forgotten thing.

i understand the POS served his punishment. i still don't want him on my team for any other reason then to heckle the shit out of him. what happened in VA was only possible because he financed it. we're not talking about a minor crime, it was a felony. and quit bringing up ray lewis, this argument is not about him, and if i had my choice, he'd be banned from the league too. if you've seen what fighting dogs are put through, from the breeding to the training, its absolutely horrible. no, a message needs to be sent to all the dumbass gangstas coming into the league to leave that shit at the door. get new friends and find new hobbies, this ain't the nba, and if you **** up you're done. end of story. stupid ****ing people....

i'm a fan of eye for an eye justice. lets strap him to a rape rack, and let the biggest baddest dude, penetrate him. then we can remove any defense he may have (in the dog fighting world they use bait dogs, with all their teeth removed so they can't harm the prize dog) lets tie his hands together and let mike tyson pound the shit out of him for practice. then when we're done we'll just kill him through either electrocution, or we can drown him. which ever is more convenient to us.

No

another great thread by ferry spider

While I agree that he has paid his time and should get another shot.. I wouldn't want him on my team.

but whoever gets him.. he would probably best be used exactly the same way Reggie Bush is used in New Orleans. Unless his ass looks like Elephant ears after the time in the pen.

Tebow is going to be in the draft next year. Why would you want Vick?

Okay. Personally, I despise Vick. I think he's overrated, and I love dogs, and I hope a pitbull takes a chunk out of his ass someday in retribution for the species.

Having said all that: he does have some on-field value, especially with the popularity of the Wildcat again thanks to teams like Miami. As a receiver, a running back, or just a change-of-pace QB, he would have to be gameplanned for, and anything that gives your opponent something else to think about is worth considering.

Especially since he'd come pretty cheap, and--the Tom Bradys of the world aside--you usually don't find much of value with a 6th- or 7th-round pick.

Now, there would certainly be a stigma to signing him, not to mention a media circus, and a fan uproar from both the fans of the team he's on as well as the enemy fans. (I wonder how many Milk-Bones he's gonna get thrown at him.) And I'm not sure a young, rebuilding team needs that sort of headache. A team like the Patriots or Steelers or Colts could probably weather the storm and make it worth their while to have him around. However, ironically, a team like that also wouldn't NEED him around. So it's sort of a Catch-22: he'd be more help to a Kansas City than an Indy or Pittsburgh, but he'd also be more of a headache for Kansas City than for Indy or Pittsburgh.

I'm really on the fence. I think he's paid his debt to society, at least in terms of what the legal system demanded of him. So he's perfectly entitled to give the NFL another try, if someone will take him. I'm just not sure I'd want him on a team I like... or a team I hate.

Again, he's positively going to end up in Atlanta West. I'd bet money on it.

This...

The double standards that people have for animals is ridiculous.

Is this question assuming that Vick will take a huge pay cut? His big money contract is still in affect for his future if he is traded for isn't it????

No to Vick the citizen and football player. Keep him out of KC.

Hey, throwing out that little assassination thing Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

That's just one giant bell I wouldn't like for my team to ring...

Rams have Leonard Little, hell why not sign Vick?

HELL NO.

Again, No.

I believe it's the contract that's the part of the issue.

I'd be ok with it, depending on the draft pick and the salary. Not crazy about it, but ok with it. I'd call it a worthwhile roll of the dice.

And yes, as a matter of fact I am a dog lover. Got two of them myself.

The double standard is not ridiculous. Animals have no protection against humanity. They don't have free will, nor the means to defend themselves other than what nature gives them, which when compared to the "tools" mankind can bring to the table, they don't stand a chance. What Vick did was heinous. And those who follow in his footsteps deserve to be treated equally as horrible as they treat their dogs.

Vick may have paid his debt to society, but I don't give a shit. Let that dumb mother****er work at 7-11 for the rest of his life.

Id take him. Hes worth a 6th or 7th rounder no doubt.

Whatever team he ends up with, and he will end up somewhere in the nfl, fans will give him a hard time until he starts producing points then all will be forgotten.

A mostly rural area would be more apt to give him a second chance, or more forgiving.

I expect Vick to be suspended for the first 3/4 games of the season to avoid the PETA protests outside of a stadium for opening day. Unless the NFL/Vick and PETA come to some sort of agreement to avoid the picketing.

If it were just dogfighting, nobody would care. Electrocuting dogs, drowning dogs, hanging dogs? Sorry, Ron, I don't want to know you.

and this is different than the woman driving in her car that was killed by a drunk Leonard Little? Where was her will and chance to defend herself?

Is anybody saying it's a good thing Leonard Little was able to resume his NFL career? Has anyone, anywhere ever said that?

Hey throw the book at Leo as well. Im not asking for any less of rules for crimes against people. I just hate the "people have double standards for animals" argument.

SLASH 2!!!!!!!!!!

hell no

a shitty QB spends two years in jail and now is going to be a rb?


no thanks, yo

No and that's not what I'm saying, it's simply the lack of uproar about Little vs. what there is over Vick that I and I assume others are talking about. Leonard got off with less time, less consequences and less long term PR repercussions and nobody seemed to care much at the time or now. This is what I find sad and disturbing even as a dog lover and owner.

Agreed. I'll boycott any team that signs him. I'd never switch teams, but I would quit watching football while he played for the Chiefs.

send him to denvar they need to practice their chop blocks on somebody

Count me in for taking him on the cheap. He could be used for a few different things. I think it would be good for the ticket sales for KC. Love the sucker, or hate him.......everyone is going to want to see him kick ass......or.....fall on his face. I don't think he will hurt any team that bad after a week of bitching when he gets to start. KC is a good fit for him to me.

I think what he did was way wrong and I am a dog lover but to do 2 years in jail and ruin his career when people who abuse children, make and sell meth, (which has done way,way more damage to society than dog fighting ever will) refuse to pay child support to kids they brought into this world, and people that ****ing steal shit from other people get way less time if any.........I think he has paid his price.

People are just happy to get on a soapbox to bash someone that had more than they ever will and screwed it up. I think Vick is overrated as a QB but I think the media coverage and punishment on this was over the top.

Is he a dumbass, yes, is he Satan, not even close.

http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg this is gypsy, one of vick's dogs.

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the rape rack that is used to force breed champion dogs.

Ummmm..i dont think any of us needed that.

We all know what the man did. Hes paid for his crimes and rightfully so.

the level of sadism that is required to not only watch and enjoy, but finance an entire dog fighting operation makes it just as bad as the murderers you guys will bring up, or the whiskey tango meth dealers mentioned before. he took pleasure in the pain and suffering of another living being. i still say we return the favor.

don't bother with the ray lewis comeback. or the l. little comeback. neither of those two should be in the league. so the argument loses its effect.

he paid his debt to society, yes. but playing in the nfl should be a privilege. if he can't vote, or own a gun, he shouldn't be reinstated.

WHy should it be a privledge? If some team wants to take a chance on him, thats their right. In the end its just like any other job.

He already threw away a ton of money with the Falcons and in endorsment deals.