What the hell is wrong with Denver?
 

I guess you can just play with 11 RB's on offense.

I love it.

Well, they are going to have to run the ball a lot more now......

I wuv McDaniels.

:) hopefully someone takes Freeman

:bravo:

Oh my god. They really are going to field an all-RB offense.

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mcdaniels is destroying their franchise

I give Josh two years before he gets his butt fired.

And they were giving us shit for taking Jackson over at the mange.

This really isnt a bad pick by the Donks considering Moreno is a good HB. But they needed to go defense instead.

They are seriously having an offseason implosion like no other. They are rivaling what Herm did to the Chiefs.

Wow this has to be one of the saddest drafts ever for the NFL....

What the hell is wrong with Denver?
 

they are a monkey-see, monkey-do type team. They saw the Chiefs and Raiders make poor selections and wanted to follow suit. It's all up to the Chargers now, if we are to remain the worst division in football.

McDaniels is actually working for Pioli.

:)

Chargers will have a great pick....since the rest of us decided to suck.

Beautiful.

Moreno is an absolute stud. The first guy never tackles him and he has the balance of Ladanian Tomlinson. If he had 4.4 speed he would be Adrian Peterson part 2.

this has been a bad draft for the AFC West today

Denver can still get Cushing, Rey Mauluga, Mathews, Peria Jerry.... They will get an excellent player at 18.

He doesn't, so he's not.

You have a ****ing reerun running your team now.

He isn't #12 overall good.

I'm not saying he's a bad player but how many RB's does one team need? I'm just waiting for them to trade us their next 1st round pick for LJ so he can play QB for them.

Not to bring out the homer in you, but would you say he and Shonn Green have pretty similar skillsets?

I'll take a reach of 3-4 spots at #12 over a reach with the 3rd overall pick anyday.

But ****, they should have taken Orapko and then try to move back up for Moreno if they loved him that much.

Give me Knowshon Moreno over Correll Buckhalter, JJ Arrington, Lamont Jordan, and Selvin Young any day.

Moreno is a very durable running back too.

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He has great balance, can catch the ball very well, tough runner, good in tight spaces. The only thing he doesn't have is breakaway speed. This guy is a beast.

Us bronco fans will take a 1st rd RB with more picks to come today, and you chiefs fans take your 3rd overall run stuffing DE and everyone try to have a happy night. T. Jackson was showing up in a ton of mocks just a week or 2 ago as going to Denver at #18, looks like he really made a move.
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Hahahaha! Chargers coming through to ensure we remain the worst division in football. What a day!

He wasn't a reach of 3-4 spots. We picked Larry Johnson with the 27th pick, and he was a MUCH better prospect than Moreno.

Moreno is a late 1st/early 2nd prospect. RB's are overvalued far too much.

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Im lovin it:thumb::thumb:

The biggest difference between Moreno and Greene is that Moreno did it over multiple seasons. Greene is a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect - I have Moreno almost exactly one round higher (late 1st/early 2nd).

Like I said, RB's are way overvalued.

The Chargers' pick is GREAT.

Once again they start the draft with a great pick. Too bad they have Norv.

Moreno was a Top 20 prospect in this draft, it wasn't as big a reach as Jackson was.

Any other year, Moreno would be a middle of the second round pick

If the broncos get Rey, I predict them to have the DROY and OROY.
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I think you are wrong. Larry Johnson wasn't as good of a receiver as Moreno is. He also wasn't as good of a pass blocker as Moreno is.

Regardless, runningback is the last place you guys needed to go with either of your first round picks. How the hell do you pass up Orakpo (or even Everette Brown) and reach for Moreno?

A lot of those OLB's were still on the board, we would have gotten one of them. Denver can get Everette Brown right now if they want him.

Moreno would have been available 5 or 10 picks later IMO

And the donkeys get to enjoy Orton this year! :D

On the clock again, I bet you they take beanie wells.

I think New Orleans, Houston, San Diego, and Cleveland would all have looked long and hard at Moreno. Especially Cleveland who just traded back....

This is about where Tyson Jackson should've gone.
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Robert Ayers can play the same position Tyson Jackson can plus he can play OLB. Great first round coach.:thumb:

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I wouldn't go overboard here, the Chargers haven't drafted well the last few years.

Like the Ayers pick, the guy Mayock thinks will be the best defensive player in this draft.

Whenever I hear Tyson Jackson, it makes me think of Trezelle Jenkins. Must just be similar names
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Based on what? Senior Bowl practices?

What did Ayers actually do during the regular season in the SEC?

Are you serious?

Ayers will probably play 3-4 OLB. Jackson will play 3-4 DE. Completely different positions.

Call Mike and ask him.

Let me preface this by saying I hate McDaniels with a passion and am torn when I see the NFL crew ripping him between shouting my agreement with the TV, and plotting various terrible actions for him making the team a national laughing stock.

All that said, picking a RB in the first round made a certain amoutn of sense. You have a great offensive line and can add a level of explosiveness if you believe this young man will be a big-time player--and make up a little bit for trading one of the most dangerous arms in the league.

I probably would have rathered to flip the order and go Orakpo and then Beanie Wells, but apparently they weren't super high on Orakpo, and were on Ayers.

He can play both at 272. He is very versatile and he can always add weight.

All-SEC First Team, 15.5 tfl - as a DT.

Or you have a mental disorder.

When they covered the pick Ed Werder said that McDaniels' comment was that they think Ayers can play on the outside some downs and be moved in on others, so that's apparently what they think they can do with him, whether or not there's any validity to it. And they also siad they think Ayers can play with 10-20 more lbs on him.

Denver's pick was roughly 5X better than ours.

They actually got an impact player and someone that can take the pressure off their QB. We got a glorified under-tackle 7 picks higher.

As bad as the Denver offseason has gone, I'd take it over ours.

7 sacks in two years.

He sucked prior to 2008. Everyone knows that.

But he was awesome in 2008.

I guess McDaniels is counting on the man rather than the teenager.

Ayers is a good pick. Moreno was bad. They get a C so far.

Let's not lose our heads here. We threw away a pro bowl QB and you may have gotten a franchise QB. You could have just given the pick to Denver for nothing and still would have had a better off season.

Because you are under the mistaken assumption

Dude, Ayers would get MAULED as a 2-gap, 5-technique tackle. He would be used as a tackle in certain passing situations, which is not uncommon for DEs to play.

It is highly doubtful that the two will play the same position. Jackson has almost 30 pounds on Ayers.

In a world where sacks were the only thing that matters, then yes, you may have a point. Jackson is far safer and he plays a position that most 3-4 nuts would argue has a much greater impact.

he's not good. Slow and stupid.

Ayers was thought all along to be one of three Broncos targets on defense, along with LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson (No. 3, Kansas City) and Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji (No. 9, Green Bay).

The Broncos were looking for a stout, pass-rushing defensive end for their new 3-4 defense. Ayers recorded three sacks and 14 tackles for losses in 2008.

Ayers could play either 5-technique defensive end or pass-rush outside linebacker.

Ayers appeared in nine games as a redshirt freshman in 2005, but was suspended from the team after being charged with aggravated assault. Charges were later reduced to misdemeanor assault.

Ayers became a fulltime starter in 2008, and broke through for 49 tackles, 15.5 tackles for a loss and three sacks.

He was a first-team all-SEC selection by the league's coaches and second-Team by the Associated Press as a senior. Named the Senior Bowl's outstanding defensive player after making three tackles and 1.5 sacks.

Ayers is athletic and versatile. He could stand to add some upper body strength.
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McDaniels brings this Patriot Way bullshit to Denver, but winds up taking a lazy guy with a questionable work ethic.

I understand the good things Ayers brings to the table, but don't spin this like Denver is on the right track. This is the worst offseason since Red Miller became head coach.

Yeah, but you don't see the problem with the last comment?

"He's athletic and versatile. He could stand to add some upper body strength." A 3-4 OLB needs the former, a 3-4 DE needs the latter. If he plays any snaps as a 5-technique, it's only to add a wrinkle. But make no mistake that the majority of his snaps will likely be in the 3-4 OLB.

C'mon, man. Many draftniks claim that he was undersized as a 4-3 DE. You really think he's going to have the size to then play a position that many claim is more similar to a defensive tackle?

Who should they have taken? Brown, Maualuga, Matthews maybe?

They're all still there. Eight more teams (and counting) have said "so what."

NO running back should be a top 20 prospect in the draft unless he's a once-or-twice-a-decade talent like Adrian Peterson.

They've done pretty well in the 1st though.

Go over to Draft Planet and read up.

Ayers might be one of THE most over-hyped guys in the 1st round.

If I had been standing next to our Owner/Coach/GM when they announced this pick I would have punched any one of them in the throat. Then, after they fell to the floor, pissed in their eye.

So...no...I'm not happy with us picking a RB first overall.

They should have taken Orkapo at 12 and Maclin at 18.

I'm going to go on record here - save this post for future reference.

Ayers will be much better than Longbust Orakpo.

and Moreno will be better than Maclin (both pretty good).

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I will one up your prediction.

Knowshon Moreno will be the NFL 2009 Offensive Rookie of the Year and Robert Ayers will be the Defensive Rookie of the Year:p

You will get over it. I'm sure if Raji was sitting there we would have picked him. Moreno was the best player available and is worlds better than who we have a RB right now.

Sweet deal you just made, assclowns!!!

Next years first! in a good draft! for a 5'9 CB?????/?

Bowe is going to rape this clown!

clown clown clown.

Yes, I enjoy saying it.

Mighty mouse...part 2!

Haha, yup.