Possible starters still available on Day Two
 

There's still some quality players available. Who would you like to see drafted as Chiefs?


Sidbury (LBer)
Duke Robinson (OG)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR)
Follett (LB)
Michael Johnson (DE)
Jauron Gilbert (DE)
Jared Cook (TE)
Antoine Caldwell (C)
Terrance Taylor (NT)
Jonathan Luigis (C)
Chris Baker (NT)
Louis Murphy(WR)
Rashad Johnson (FS)
Ramses Barden (WR)
Jason Phillips(ILB)

Yup there is still some good talent around

Jasper Brinkley MLB in the 4th possibly?

Jamon Meredith (OT)
Shonn Green (RB)

Robiskie got drafted by the Browns...

I knew I'd miss one.
I'll edit it out.

Chase Coffman

Might as well finish off the line with another LSU player and take Ricky Jean Francois. I would like to get a good receiving TE also, Cook, Coffman, or Ingram.

Who are the top kickers in this draft?

In a true 30 front (**** it), they desperately need a NT and some help at rush LB.

I like Chase Coffman, but I'm so sick of drafting TE's.

I like that pick.
Niswanger signed so he's prob gonna start.
My feeling is make nice with waters so you would have
Albert waters niswanger goff meredith
then get rid of sackintosh

It's a bit surprising Shonn Greene hasn't been picked.

Hampton is still available and so is Taylor from Michigan for possible NTs.

I think WR Iglesias or OG Duke Robinson are probably the best value. I also really like FS Rashad Johnson and TE Jared Cook. Cook has the skills of a 1st rounder, IMO, he just needs work on his blocking. There's still some guys that could be starters on our team, available.

Brandon Tate. If It wasnt for him testing positive for Mary J he'd probably be picked already. Could be a big time pick up.

I like that pick. Draft him, let him ride the pine a year or two. Get LJ's value up(it can only go up) and trade him for next to nothing of course. Greene's got a unique blend of power and moves. Should be a good back.

You mean the kid from Hampton - Chris Baker?

He doesn't really fit the character profile.

If we picked Shonn Greene they should cut LJ on the spot.

James Davis

No, but he's fit the NT position.;)

I'm fully expecting a collection of high-character, overachieving, not particularly talented guys -- perhaps including another DL, a LB, a RT and a TE.

I had him as a late 2nd/early 3rd rounder. I'm not surprised considering he only had one season to show off his stuff.

I wouldn't mind having him in KC if we could manage to jettison Larry. He'd be a nice complement to Charles.

My top 5

1. Duke Robinson
2. Jamon Meredith
3. Jarron Gilbert
4. Shonn Greene
5. Andre Brown

Gilbert and Jackson would be a damn good pair of young DEs, Robinson and Meredith for obvious reasons, Greene or Brown would set up a good one-two punch with Charles.

This.

Jarron Gilbert would probably be at the very top if you were asking me filling 2 3-4 line spots in 1 draft is a nice haul.

Still a long way to go.
I'd like to see the Chiefs snag one of the talented Centers (Luigs, Caldwell).
Duke Robinson maybe...
WR, LB, RT.

Lawrence Sidbury would be cool.

I'm still thinking they will pick Caldwell.

I'm kind of leaning towards Gilbert or Robinson. I like the idea of getting our book ends on the D-line and seeing what Dorsey can do with the help. I also think Robinson has PB type potential and that's hard to pass on.

Greene would be a great pick and a good value in the third, but we still have a ton of holes on the offensive and defensive lines.

The more I think about it the more I'm in love with the idea of adding Gilbert. I hate to neglect the oline but the duo of Jackson and Gilbert is hard to pass up.

I actually doubt anyone on here guesses who we pick, and the majority of the board will be furious at who the pick ends up being.

Who do the Lions and Rams pick?

Rams need a WR right? Maybe they go with Iglesias.

Lions???

How is that a book end? Robinson spent his entire college career playing left guard.

He said bookends on the D-line with Jackson and Gilbert.

We're not gonna fix everything with one draft. Need to draft for value.

Oh shit nevermind, I saw someone say Robinson was an OT earlier my mind jumped.

I'm referring to Gilbert as the BOOK END to Tyson Jackson.

I'm referring to Robinson as having PB potential as an offensive GUARD and that's why I'm torn between the two players, because both positions could use a major upgrade.

I'm been living it up a little tonight and might not be real clear.

I ****ed up, sorry about that.

C, G, T, WR, TE, S

Derrick Williams is a character guy who does everything well including returning punts and kickoffs.

Derrick Williams problem is he killed himself during the senior bowl he kept dropping punts and his 40 was so bad.

No problem at all, man.


I think we almost have to pull the trigger on Gilbert sooner, rather than later. I agree ,getting 2 of the 3 D-lineman for the 3-4 would be huge.

TJ Lang is a versatile sleeper that could start at gaurd or right tackle by mid season. Check the video out here http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...ot/TJ-Lang.php

If we draft Green in the third LJ is most likely history.

I'm a big fan of his. I took him in CP's mock draft. I think he would start day 1.

I'd say it's Robinson, but if the Chiefs question his work ethic or smarts at all, I think they pass.

Seeing as it doesn't seem we'll be picking up any extra picks this year, I wouldn't mind us using our 3rd and 4th picks on the Oline. We've got to replace MacIntosh for sure and someone like Jamon Meredith could be the guy that does that. Duke Robinson is nice value in the 3rd round...any chance he could play RT? Kraig Urbik is still there too....same question I posed concerning Duke Robinson applies here....

I think we got to have a center too. I'd like Antoine Caldwell or Jonathan Luigs but the draft is so deep for centers that we may be able to pick up AQ Shipley in the 5th round and have him start even.

Some nice linebackers left if we want to go that route too - Jason Phillips, Jasper Brinkley and Darry Beckworth can all play inside. Kaluka Maiava and Zach Follett might have a shot at starting on the outside for us.

Receiving-wise....Brandon Tate in the 4th or Austin Collie or Ramses Baarden in the 5th -6th round?

So, I guess if I had it my way, here's how things shape up -

3rd - Jamon Meredith/Robinson/Urbik
4th - Brandon Tate or Antoine Caldwell
5th - Zach Follett
6th - Ramses Barden

Seem feasible?

Kaluka Maiavia would be an ILB in a 3-4.

And if the Chiefs do take Robinson, Waters is either being moved or someone is moving to center.

Yea, I'm really starting to lean that way myself. If we're going to commit to the 3-4, we need to get some of the base players to pull it off.

and then the obligatory f--- pioli thread by hamas ensues....

It's kind of odd, but I think Goff is more set at RG than Waters is at LG.

No way we take a guy who's favorite movie is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II. :)

Geesh the kid started his first college game at 17 years old on the D-line and has played every position on the O-line. I know he's not from a BCS conference but he has unlimited upside and he's already damn good.

We should probably just take alot of lineman from here on here there's still plenty of quality guys left.

I saw that. I guess it could be worse, I think Ryan Sims favorite was Pretty in Pink. Atleast he wasn't trying to be a Scarface poser.

I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...

I'm on board. Let's do it.

I like Jarrett Dillard as a WR at some point. Reminds me a bit of Eddie Royal. Not the biggest guy obviously, but really quick and catches the ball consistently. I'd expect Pioli to go with a big man in the 3rd, Robinson, Gilbert or Meredith.

I also like the idea of Brandon Tate, but he's coming off a torn ACL, right? Are we willing to wait for him to recover? Pats liked taking tight ends early, maybe they go with Jared Cook. Everybody says Haley didn't use the tight end, but maybe he would if he had a very good pass catching option.

I've got him on my list and think as a 3rd rounder, he's worth taking a chance on. I would like to think Chan Gailey has the inside track on him. The top of the draft was pretty average, but this may be the best 3rd round in recent memory. Plenty of talent still available, who have realistic shots at being starters, especially on our team.

Tate tore his ACL in October he should be ok...he also tested positive for weed right before the draft though.

My money is on Jamon Meredith.

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina

If NFL teams are looking for an offensive lineman to come in and contribute immediately, they can look no further than this South Carolina Gamecock. To say Meredith is high on the experience factor would be an understatement. He redshirted as a freshman after playing in one game, and coming into 2008 he had started 28 consecutive games; 29 in total dating back to his freshman season. Meredith started 18 straight at left tackle protecting his quarterback's blind side, but recently he has been forced to show his versatility. He had to sit out two games at the start of this season due to having played during his 2005 redshirt year, and coach Steve Spurrier moved him to guard upon his return. In addition to his football skills (which include running under 5.0 in the 40-yard-dash despite his size), Meredith is outstanding in the classroom and will bring no off-the-field concerns with him into the next level. Right now he looks like a second-rounder in the 2009 draft. Meredith has the frame to get even bigger and he needs to show he can truly dominate a game up front before NFL brass will be convinced to go for him in round one.

I've seen Meredith projected as a OT and a guard, I wonder which he is.

I think Scarface was Sammy Parker's favorite movie. Can't argue with that! :D

The difference 20 pounds makes?
1:56 pm April 24, 2009, by Doug Roberson

Guess who this player is:

He’s 6-6, 283 pounds. Had 13 sacks as a junior, 24 in his career. Left school. Ran a 4.65-40 at combine. Benched 225 pounds, 35 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off.

Now, guess who this player is:

He’s 6-7, 266 pounds. Had nine sacks as a senior, his first season starting full-time. Also played on several special teams units. Ran a 4.69-40, benched 225 pounds 28 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off. Could fall to the third round, according to some mock drafts.

The first player is Mario Williams, whom the Texans selected No. 1 in the 2006 draft. He’s gone on to have 30.5 sacks in Houston, and is considered one of the best defensive ends in the NFL.

The second player is…..you guessed it, Michael Johnson.

So, why did Williams go No. 1, while Johnson could fall as low as the 70s in tomorrow’s draft?

Williams is obviously bigger, and stronger, but does 20 pounds and eight reps make that much of a difference?

NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock has blistered Johnson over and over, but many people were saying the same thing about Williams.

Could Johnson be the sleeper in the draft?

The problem with Johnson is he's just never been a big on field producer, he's more athlete than football player.

I saw one report on him that said to think of him as a Jordon Black clone. I shuddered and mumbled at the thought. Although at RT I think Merideth has more upside than Sackintosh.

Duke Robinson, OL, Oklahoma

It is not everyday that a true freshman plays a role on Oklahoma. But Duke Robinson played in ten games at left guard in 2005 and even some saw action at left tackle. By his sophomore campaign, Robinson was a staple at left guard and took more snaps than any other linemen on the team. For his efforts he earned All-Big 12 honorable mention accolades. As a junior, Robinson cemented his status as one of the best guards in the nation.
At 6-5 and 335 pounds, Robinson is a big, big man. He is a road-grader who could be a starting guard on many teams in the NFL as a rookie. Ideally, Robinson should be a guard, but he is versatile enough to play at the right tackle spot if needed and that will be a big plus for some teams.

Not many offensive guards crack the first round of the NFL Draft, but Duke Robinson is one of the few who can. His size, experience and sheer talent will be difficult for teams in need for a guard to pass up. Robinson could slip into the second round since he is a guard, but he will almost certainly be the first taken in April.

Micheal Johnson for sure. I've seen this guy play (I live about 45 minutes from GT) and he is for real. I've seen him batting balls like Yao Ming, seriously his jump is ridiculous. I dont know what he jumped at combine but it should be high. And I dont think a WR would kill us, by a long shot

The upside of Johnson really intrigues me.

I don't think it would take much to get up in the top 10 of the 3rd round to take Johnson if we go Meredith or Robinson first.

Jordan Black/Jeff Criswell/Kyle Turley/Victor Riley/Damien Mackintosh = epic :cuss:

I also really love Jared Cook but I won't pimp for the Chiefs to take a TE.

He can get to the QB, but he's probably a better fit as an OLBer in a 3-4, than a DE, for sure, that's why I like Gilbert, because he solidifies the D-line, at least in theory.

I also still really like Duke Robinson, that's hellacious value in the 3rd round-I hope the Lions or Rams don't draft him.

looks like he could be another Quinton Moses. But if he could be another Jason Taylor...... Boom/Bust

Told you the other day Cushing would go before Mauluga

And Duke Robinson. That dude doesn't stop.

Harvey Williams has no neck compared to this guy.

One of them will for sure, unfortunately....

Duke Robinson ****ing sucks.

There are five guys left that blow him away.

Sucking.


He doesn't stop sucking.