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Tribal Warfare 04-26-2009 01:45 AM

Jeffri Chadiha: Jackson first draft of K.C. masterpiece?
 
Jackson first draft of K.C. masterpiece?
By Jeffri Chadiha
ESPN.com

KANSAS CITY -- There was no mistaking what Scott Pioli wanted to do with his first pick as general manager of the Kansas City Chiefs.

He wasn't looking for a player who would be a sexy pick. He also claims he wasn't looking to enhance his reputation as a master trader on draft day. Instead, Pioli only cared about finding a player who fit the image he has for this team. On Saturday afternoon, Pioli tried convincing everybody that LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson was that guy.

Of course, time will tell whether Jackson was worthy of being the third overall selection in the 2009 NFL draft. His stock clearly rose over the past few weeks, as he went from a mid- to late-first-round prospect to one with top-five potential. Pioli and new head coach Todd Haley obviously saw him as the most established defensive end in this year's cop. And given the recent history of highly drafted defensive linemen who became busts in Kansas City, they had better be right with this guy.

Chiefs fans know all about disappointments like Ryan Sims, Junior Siavii and Eddie Freeman. They also are trying to be patient with defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, who was taken fifth overall in the 2008 draft and produced a lackluster rookie campaign. Now they'll put their faith in Jackson, a former college teammate of both Dorsey and Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe at LSU.

"This was difficult only in the sense that there were a number of great players there [at the third pick]," Pioli said. "We spent the past several days evaluating all these guys, but after all that, we felt [Jackson] was the one player we wanted most."

Pioli said need really was the deciding factor in the Chiefs' decision to select Jackson instead of a player like Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry, who many analysts called the safest pick in this draft. The Chiefs want to transition to a 3-4 defense this season after years of playing a 4-3 scheme. They've already started amassing linebackers through free agency. The next step was fortifying a defensive line that didn't have many prototypical 3-4 players in the fold when Pioli succeeded former general manager Carl Peterson.

The obvious benefit of the 6-foot-4, 295-pound Jackson is his versatility. He played defensive end in a 4-3 system at LSU, but the Chiefs think he'll be equally comfortable playing over an offensive tackle in their 3-4 look. They also like Jackson's ability to contribute on all three downs, especially since he can move to defensive tackle on passing downs.

"He's a big, long, strong player who plays sideline to sideline," Haley said. "Those guys don't grow on trees."

That comment ultimately sums up the key to the first draft pick of the Pioli era in Kansas City: The Chiefs selected a player who offers them rare opportunities on the field. The important thing at this stage is tempering the expectations that surely will be foisted upon Jackson once he hits town. After all, a player selected that high is supposed to make an immediate impact on the field. You're talking about a player who likely will receive $30 million in guaranteed money once he signs.

Jackson obviously is anticipating big things, primarily because he's being reunited with Dorsey.

"We won a national championship together and now our goal will be to win a Super Bowl together," he said. But the fact remains that defensive linemen also need some time to adjust to life in the NFL. Most can dominate in college because they're facing inferior athletes. Many learn that such advantages do not exist in the league.

In fact, Pioli pointed out that his former team, the New England Patriots, watched all three of their current star defensive linemen go through their own growing pains as rookies.

It happened to Pro Bowl end Richard Seymour. The same was true for fellow end Ty Warren and nose tackle Vince Wilfork. Those players didn't really blossom in New England's defense until their second and third years, and Pioli anticipates a similar career trajectory for Jackson.

Pioli also mentioned a recent conversation he had with former Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson, who traded up to select defensive tackle Russell Maryland first overall in the 1991 draft. Johnson explained how essential Maryland was to the Cowboys' defensive dominance during their dynasty years in the 1990s. Pioli obviously hopes Jackson can have the same effect on the Chiefs' defensive play in years to come.

"Getting the right guy to play our scheme is what we're after," Pioli said.

Still, the fact is that Jackson might never live up to the price tag that he'll carry into the NFL. People will see all that guaranteed money and expect plenty of bang for that buck. They'll want to see double-digit sack numbers, a bevy of tackles for losses. This is how the league works these days. What fans can see often matters far more than what players actually do.

At his best, Jackson will be a player who makes life easier for everybody around him. He'll occupy blockers, control his gaps and do all the little things that rarely get noticed by the average fans.

"He has some pass rush skills, too," Haley said. "He'll be able to take advantage of some mismatches."

So it should be interesting to see how Jackson develops in Kansas City. It also will be intriguing to learn how fans view this choice three years from now. At first glance, Pioli's first draft pick in Kansas City couldn't have inspired less buzz. What he has to hope now is that fans have the patience to see just where Jackson fits into the Chiefs' master plan.

Mecca 04-26-2009 02:56 AM

See that...transitioning into the 3-4...we are going to be a 3-4 team it's painfully obvious no more hybrid talk.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711568)
See that...transitioning into the 3-4...we are going to be a 3-4 team it's painfully obvious no more hybrid talk.

I've heard that monkeys throw poop. Is this true?

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711578)
I've heard that monkeys throw poop. Is this true.

In that article Scott Pioli says they are transitioning to being a 3-4 team....

What is with people around here lately?

Crush 04-26-2009 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711578)
I've heard that monkeys throw poop. Is this true.


Then you just shoot and kill the monkeys. They made really shitty music anyway.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711580)
In that article Scott Pioli says they are transitioning to being a 3-4 team....

What is with people around here lately?


Sir, I respectfully request that you answer my question.

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:08 AM

Well I think you should get a pet monkey and find out.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711581)
Then you just shoot and kill the monkeys. They made really shitty music anyway.


Lol, I was just playing "I'm a believer" on my guitar.

Your words are hurtful. Just hurtful.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711568)
See that...transitioning into the 3-4...we are going to be a 3-4 team it's painfully obvious no more hybrid talk.

What I want to know is why this media-hack named his piece "KC Masterpiece"?

No one with one quarter of a barbecuing brain speaks that name without a pre or post spit on the ground to emphasize it's mediocre suckiness and the name of great tradition that Rich Davis mauled like an ass-raping grizzly bear.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711584)
Well I think you should get a pet monkey and find out.


But, but, but you know everything else. Please enlighten me on monkey feces tossing..

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:10 AM

I'm pretty sure he works for NFL network.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711586)
What I want to know is why this media-hack named his piece "KC Masterpiece"?

No one with one quarter of a barbecuing brain speaks that name without a pre or post spit on the ground to emphasize it's mediocre suckiness and the name of great tradition that Rich Davis mauled like an ass-raping grizzly bear.


maybe he was hungry

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711587)
But, but, but you know everything else. Please enlighten me on monkey feces tossing..

Oh chill out I don't know everything I'm just going on what that article said.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711581)
Then you just shoot and kill the monkeys. They made really shitty music anyway.

Cheer up sleepy Jean.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711588)
I'm pretty sure he works for NFL network.

Does he know anything about monkeys throwing poop?

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711589)
maybe he was hungry

...for incredibly mediocre ribs.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711590)
Oh chill out I don't know everything I'm just going on what that article said.

Wha????

I'm so cold my penis is an inny.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711593)
...for incredibly mediocre ribs.


I never said he was tasteful, just hungry.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711584)
Well I think you should get a pet monkey and find out.


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5...cfb062cb3d.jpg

.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711589)
maybe he was hungry

Whitlock hijacked the media-fatty table.

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:13 AM

Ok, people are acting bizarre.

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711596)

$18.95! I have to change my tag...

Crush 04-26-2009 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711585)
Lol, I was just playing "I'm a believer" on my guitar.

Your words are hurtful. Just hurtful.


LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711584)
Well I think you should get a pet monkey and find out.

I hear Smed is available.

"Just inject him with our patented 'Monkey Crank', and WATCH HIM GO"!

Crush 04-26-2009 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711600)
$18.95! I have to change my tag...


What they don't tell you, though, is the fact that the poor little guy is shipped via 3-5 day UPS delivery. He is going to be dead upon arrival.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711596)

dude that's just f-ing sweet. Sweet I tell you.

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711605)
What they don't tell you, though, is the fact that the poor little guy is shipped via 3-5 day UPS delivery. He is going to be dead upon arrival.

$18.95 for a dead hand monkey is better than having no hand monkey.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:17 AM

whomever came up with $18.95 hand monkey it's genius.


Pure genius

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711590)
Oh chill out I don't know everything I'm just going on what that article said.

LMAOLMAOLMAO It's hard at the top, ain't it?

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711610)
$18.95 for a dead hand monkey is better than having no hand monkey.


More wisdom than I've heard all day.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711610)
$18.95 for a dead hand monkey is better than having no hand monkey.


Truer words have never been written.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:19 AM

"Even likes lollipops"!!!

ROFL

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:22 AM

The real question is how much will the taxidermist charge to stuff the $18.95 dead hand monkey to make it worth your while to get him?

Crush 04-26-2009 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711622)
The real question is how much will the taxidermist charge to stuff the $18.95 dead hand monkey to make it worth your while to get him?


I don't know, but I'm really tempted to find out.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711622)
The real question is how much will the taxidermist charge to stuff the $18.95 dead hand monkey to make it worth your while to get him?

Hand Monkey Puppet!

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:24 AM

I was gonna make a football comment, but this seems to have become a monkey thread. Time to rename?

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711622)
The real question is how much will the taxidermist charge to stuff the $18.95 dead hand monkey to make it worth your while to get him?

Stuff him? No. Better idea:

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/upload...tchdoctor1.jpg

Witch Doctor. $18.95 Zombie Hand Monkey.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711630)
I was gonna make a football comment, but this seems to have become a monkey thread. Time to rename?

Can it not be both?

Crush 04-26-2009 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711633)
Stuff him? No. Better idea:

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/upload...tchdoctor1.jpg

Witch Doctor. $18.95 Zombie Hand Monkey.



Yeah, but then you will turn into zombie after the little guy inevitably bites you.

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711634)
Can it not be both?

NO. Choose now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711633)
Stuff him? No. Better idea:

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/upload...tchdoctor1.jpg

Witch Doctor. $18.95 Zombie Hand Monkey.

Practical AND decorative!

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711637)
NO. Choose now.

J/K.... What kind of choice is that??

















Monkey Time!!!!!!!!!

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711630)
I was gonna make a football comment, but this seems to have become a monkey thread. Time to rename?


Don't hate on monkeys Llama lover.

It's all some of us have left.

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711635)
Yeah, but then you will turn into zombie after the little guy inevitably bites you.

And that's a risk I'm willing to take.

On a completely related note, if you type hand monkey into google image search, you get this (WARNING: MAY GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES):

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/4...013105.jpg?v=0

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711637)
NO. Choose now.

DCS votes for Hand Monkey!

Wait,
What?

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711640)
Don't hate on monkeys Llama lover.

It's all some of us have left.

LMAO I love your sig.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711633)
Stuff him? No. Better idea:

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/upload...tchdoctor1.jpg

Witch Doctor. $18.95 Zombie Hand Monkey.

Who is that? Tamba Hali?

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:29 AM

You guys know the draft restarts in about 4 and a half hours right?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711641)
And that's a risk I'm willing to take.

On a completely related note, if you type hand monkey into google image search, you get this (WARNING: MAY GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES):

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/4...013105.jpg?v=0

KoalapandaFerritgerbel!!!!

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711645)
You guys know the draft restarts in about 4 and a half hours right?

Yeah, I need to go to sleep.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5711641)
And that's a risk I'm willing to take.

On a completely related note, if you type hand monkey into google image search, you get this (WARNING: MAY GIVE YOU NIGHTMARES):

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/4...013105.jpg?v=0



It's does give me nightmares. I'm all like bitch, I send you my child support. How about you buy my kid some clothes with it instead of you, but I digress.

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:30 AM

Tags are on?? I'm excited! I'm such a n00b I've only heard about these babies.

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711648)
KoalapandaFerritgerbel!!!!

LMAO My new favorite animal!

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711645)
You guys know the draft restarts in about 4 and a half hours right?

I got plenty of sleep after the third pick. Didn't miss nothing.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711645)
You guys know the draft restarts in about 4 and a half hours right?

At 7-8-9AM?????

Now that's just weird.

Mecca 04-26-2009 03:32 AM

It starts at 9...........9-5.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711655)
At 7-8-9AM?????

Now that's just weird.


The NFL is screwing with the time matrix.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711643)
LMAO I love your sig.


Why thank you. Previously I had a reference about will franklin (kinda joke about clifford franklin from the replacements)

Pioli screwed me. I want CP back now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711654)
I got plenty of sleep after the third pick. Didn't miss nothing.

Man, you ain't shittin!

This was one weird, WEIRD ****ing round one and two.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711656)
It starts at 9...........9-5.


Will Dolly Parton be involved?

I hear it's a way to make a living.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711656)
It starts at 9...........9-5.

That's a punishment I am willing to sleep through.

Goldmember 04-26-2009 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711596)

LMFAO I always wanted one of those as a kid, then my neighbor's monkey bit me because I teased him and that was the end of it

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711656)
It starts at 9...........9-5.

That's no way to make a livin!!



http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3412/dollyp.jpg

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711660)
Will Dolly Parton be involved?

I hear it's a way to make a living.

Beat me to the Dolly Parton reference! I don't know who wins that one. :hmmm:

Crush 04-26-2009 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711667)
That's no way to make a livin!!



http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3412/dollyp.jpg


I would still do her, but Lily Tomlin has to videotape it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711668)
Beat me to the Dolly Parton reference! I don't know who wins that one. :hmmm:

And yet she still looks better than Loni Anderson.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:42 AM

mmmm I also love Loni Anderson. Decisions. Decisions.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crush (Post 5711672)
mmmm I also love Loni Anderson. Decisions. Decisions.

Circa 79'. No blonde hotter.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:45 AM

Sometimes I just feel like a honky drove the last sky blue Caddy off the lot.

Crush 04-26-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711673)
Circa 79'. No blonde hotter.


Damn straight.

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711645)
You guys know the draft restarts in about 4 and a half hours right?

By "restarts" do you mean we have another shot to draft Curry?

Crush 04-26-2009 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711678)
By "restarts" do you mean we have another shot to draft Curry?


The Time Displacement Equipment only works once, so you have to get it right.

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711673)
Circa 79'. No blonde hotter.


This.

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711673)
Circa 79'. No blonde hotter.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8131/ianz.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711678)
By "restarts" do you mean we have another shot to draft Curry?

Couldn't I just eat some razor blade-laced apples and call it good for all the Chiefs Nation instead?

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711685)
Couldn't I just eat some razor blade-laced apples and call it good for all the Chiefs Nation instead?

I think a lot of people on here would call that "good for all the Chiefs Nation." ;)

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5711686)
I think a lot of people on here would call that "good for all the Chiefs Nation." ;)

You might have just earned my place in the lottery with that picture of...that picture of...Willy Ames???

ShortRoundChief 04-26-2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711685)
Couldn't I just eat some razor blade-laced apples and call it good for all the Chiefs Nation instead?

That would be some explosive diarrhea.

kysirsoze 04-26-2009 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5711687)
You might have just earned my place in the lottery with that picture of...that picture of...Willy Ames???

Ian Ziering!!! Of 90210 and "Side Order of Life" Fame!!!

He never gets the credit he deserves!!!:banghead::banghead:

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2009 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5711689)
That would be some explosive diarrhea.

That's some Top Secret Ninja Diarrhea if aimed properly.


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