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RNR 04-26-2009 09:29 AM

What is a draft expert?
 
What is a draft expert?

From what I can tell it is hard to say. They are anything from a sports writer to a geek living in his parents basement running his command center or a ex-jock who had a Al Bundy type high school football career, while others appear to be your basic fan who is well known on a football message board.

Every year in the months leading up to the draft we are force feed opinions on who the next great this or that is going to be. By the time the draft rolls around we all have a pretty good idea who the must draft players are. So we settle in and watch it all unfold. The team we pull for make their picks and we feverishly search for the "expert" who thinks our team did well and roll our eyes at the ones who think different.

Being a draft expert reminds me a lot of being a weatherman because being wrong (almost all of the time) is not held against you. The draft grades I find very amusing as I am certain but entirely too lazy to see if the patriots got high grades for drafting Brady in the 6th round that year or the 49ers received a top grade for drafting Montana in the 3rd.

I am far from a expert but do know from years of watching the NFL a grade on a draft will not be known for a few years. I must fess up I have to google most of the names once they get past the first twenty or so players. Now I pull for a team that has a modern day Howard Hughes as a owner so head scratching over picks is nothing new to me.

I do remember a few years back all the "experts" patting Davis on the back for drafting sure fire no brainer Robert Gallery and have watched he master the "look out block" you know the block where he is on his ass yelling LOOK OUT! to the QB. I could type page after page of flop top picks and super star unnoticed by the "experts" players.

I would compile that information for everyone to show my "expert" prowess however I must spent some time on google to find out who the hell they are talking about at this point in the draft and also find the "expert" that is giving the Raiders a good grade so far because the rest of them are full of shit!

FloridaMan88 04-26-2009 09:33 AM

Not you

Skip Towne 04-26-2009 09:34 AM

Mecca Kiper Jr. Except the real Kiper has better hair.

dtebbe 04-26-2009 09:37 AM

You want to hear a real draft expert? Listen to Gill Brandt on Sirius. That dude is just amazing. Listening to him is what I imagine it would be like to have a cool grandpa that knew something about everything and everything about football.

DT

milkman 04-26-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5712497)
Not you

Was this post really necessarysince he doesn't claim to be an expert?

Especially since he specifically states he isn't one?

RNR 04-26-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5712497)
Not you

How incredibly witty, I awe struck by your banter and am fearful to engage someone so quick witted

rambleonthruthefog 04-26-2009 10:16 AM

a draft expert is a person whos name begins with Scott and ends with Pioli.

RNR 04-26-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 5712831)
a draft expert is a person whos name begins with Scott and ends with Pioli.

LMAO rep for the first prue homer reply

RJ 04-26-2009 10:20 AM

Anyone with a web site and everyone who works for ESPN.

RNR 04-26-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5712892)
Anyone with a web site and everyone who works for ESPN.

Are any of them saying nice things about the Raiders draft?

Dr. Johnny Fever 04-26-2009 10:27 AM

It's someone who is so arrogant they truly believe they know more than a guy who helped build a dynasty and a coach who went to the Super Bowl, even though they don't know what said GM and coach are really even trying to do. Somehow with all of this expertise no NFL team is yet to employ their services. I don't think I need to mention names. They're also people who need lives.

|Zach| 04-26-2009 10:30 AM

Nobody forces you to watch shit.

RNR 04-26-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5712946)
It's someone who is so arrogant they truly believe they know more than a guy who helped build a dynasty and a coach who went to the Super Bowl, even though they don't know what said GM and coach are really even trying to do. Somehow with all of this expertise no NFL team is yet to employ their services. I don't think I need to mention names. They're also people who need lives.

That is pretty spot on, but you forget the 25 straight Superbowls they have won on Madden and THEY built those teams!

RJ 04-26-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5712903)
Are any of them saying nice things about the Raiders draft?



Not yet, but I'm sure in 5 years they'll be raving about it as one of the most brilliant of the past 30 years.

RNR 04-26-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5712970)
Nobody forces you to watch shit.

Gee thanks Zack! nobody forced you to open this thead. So what if I find the draft and the experts amusing, that is unless you consider your self a expert and some how I have offended you :rolleyes:

RNR 04-26-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5712972)
Not yet, but I'm sure in 5 years they'll be raving about it as one of the most brilliant of the past 30 years.

I officially deem thee a draft "expert"! It is clear your knowledge is vastly superior to the other draft "experts". My search is over it is your word I will heed!

Dr. Johnny Fever 04-26-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5712971)
That is pretty spot on, but you forget the 25 straight Superbowls they have won on Madden and THEY built those teams!

oh yea.... my bad.

|Zach| 04-26-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5713006)
Gee thanks Zack! nobody forced you to open this thead. So what if I find the draft and the experts amusing, that is unless you consider your self a expert and some how I have offended you :rolleyes:

No I don't consider myself an expert.

I just think that they hire some people to cover the draft. That nature of the draft doesn't mean they are going to be right all or most of the time. You just sounds like you want to hear yourself bitch.

|Zach| 04-26-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5713043)
I officially deem thee a draft "expert"! It is clear your knowledge is vastly superior to the other draft "experts". My search is over it is your word I will heed!

Drama queen.

RNR 04-26-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5713133)
Drama queen.

I have no idea what you are talking about or why you would think me kidding around with RJ makes me a drama queen. You act like you want to pick a internet fight with me for what appears to be no reason. Whatever scooter :rolleyes:

RJ 04-26-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5713043)
I officially deem thee a draft "expert"! It is clear your knowledge is vastly superior to the other draft "experts". My search is over it is your word I will heed!


You're welcome. I'll meet you at DHB's Hall of Fame induction.

rambleonthruthefog 04-26-2009 11:01 AM

i do know for a fact that thier isn't a single expert on this board. I'm not thrilled bout our draft so far, but i don't make a living at scouting college athletes either. None of you do, as far as i know. Why not have a little more trust and patience in the new regime? the pedigree on haley and pioli is pretty much unarguable. These guys are winners plain and simple.

RNR 04-26-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5713189)
You're welcome. I'll meet you at DHB's Hall of Fame induction.

I will buy the first beer! uh will we still be alive by then?

RNR 04-26-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 5713199)
i do know for a fact that thier isn't a single expert on this board. I'm not thrilled bout our draft so far, but i don't make a living at scouting college athletes either. None of you do, as far as i know. Why not have a little more trust and patience in the new regime? the pedigree on haley and pioli is pretty much unarguable. These guys are winners plain and simple.

Uh RJ is a "expert" because I say he is! The thread was intended to be light hearted. For those offended that was not my intent. However I really do not care :)

|Zach| 04-26-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5713244)
Uh RJ is a "expert" because I say he is! The thread was intended to be light hearted. For those offended that was not my intent. However I really do not care :)

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kstater 04-26-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5712903)
Are any of them saying nice things about the Raiders draft?

ROFL

RNR 04-26-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5713263)
ROFL

I had to ask :harumph: :)

rambleonthruthefog 04-26-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5713244)
Uh RJ is a "expert" because I say he is! The thread was intended to be light hearted. For those offended that was not my intent. However I really do not care :)

i wasn't hating on you, and believe me i'm not offended.

keg in kc 04-26-2009 11:17 AM

Draft experts are people who are not currently paid by NFL franchises to help them evaluate talent and build their draft baords. That doesn't mean that what they say doesn't carry any merit, but I look at them about the same way I look at film or book critics.

brandon 04-26-2009 11:18 AM

The only thing more stupid than draft mocking/scouting is draft grading. It is obvious that Pioli is going to draft for the long-term. We've came out so far, through half our picks, with arguably the two best 3-4 DE's and a high-upside CB project. Let Scott do his thing.

RNR 04-26-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5713295)
Draft experts are people who are not currently paid by NFL franchises to help them evaluate talent and build their draft baords. That doesn't mean that what they say doesn't carry any merit, but I look at them about the same way I look at film or book critics.

I understand that and feel the same way. I just find it funny how serious fans take these people and how serious the experts take themselves


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