If there was any doubt Belichik was running the show all along in New England
 

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

Could have done without the anti-semitic remark.

Truth.
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What's up with that? Not cool.

Exactly what is a "third down pick"?

And nice anti-semitic remark.....you ****ing tool bag.

I could have done without his entire post. Its nonsense.

repost.

Could someone please replace the word "Pioli" with a Star of David with the word "Juud" in the middle for B_Ambuehl....and you sir are a Moran!

MODS?

To be fair, he has a point. Its hard to force an interception on third down without a good pass rush.

Oh, Jesus, B_Ambuehl, what does that have to do with anything?

Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

jesus **** this is stupid

and the anti-semitism....awesome

Mel Gibson?

Was there ever any doubt that B_Ambuehl was the biggest ****stick next to Claythan on this board?

Didn't think so.

did he not 'US' them out of a pick?

(/peter griffin)

Bad poster, bad reference. Cool it please. Bad typo, tighten it up.

Now, let's get to the take itself:

This take is right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, and right again.

Did I mention this take is correct? Quite so.

"Scott Jewoli"

What do you mean by that exactly?

OH MAM!... I posted a thread basically making the same point yesterday (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...46#post5708446) with just a mere possibility assigned to it (as opposed to your conviction) and I got three ugly neg reps. You'll probably get 12. Right now Pioli is God to some of the posters and your blasphemy will cost you mass stoning by the zealots here.

He's changed it to "third round picks". Good enough.

Sorry. :doh!:

because the point is stupid...obviously stupid


the Pats had a bunch of picks coming in...we had a #3 that no one wanted

you'd have to be reeruned to not understand the simple difference

Shit draft, backup QB; deal with it.

You have some points but I am still ridin' with Paley and Hioli and see where they take me next year

Good Lord. The draft sure has brought out the reeruns. Give it time.

Ignoring the total absurdity of the entire post, I'll say this. It's slightly easier to trade out of a mid 20's pick than trade out of a top 3 pick. They didn't have a 2nd round pick because they used that second round pick on what they believe to be a franchise QB. I don't know where you're getting your information, but they did have a 3rd round pick.

Stupid:shake:

I am not going to say the Chiefs had a better draft than the Pats.

But, this draft resembles much of what the Pats have done. The Pats didn't trade down when they had the chance to draft Seymore.

The drafted defensive linemen in the first round for three straight years. That was one of their biggest priorities.

The Chiefs were able to a very good one in round one, and another one that should be another very solid prospect.

Pioli got a second round pick out of an aging TE. He got a franchise QB for a second round pick that teams like Denver and Detroit were both willing to pay more for.

Long ways to go, but so far, pretty happy with what he as done.

Actually, didn't they trade UP?

Racially insensitive remarks are constantly thrown around on this forum.
But this one struck a chord? Wow...

I thought they traded up for either Seymore, Wilfork or the third guy that I can't freaking remember right this second... Are you freaking kidding me... why can't I remember this guys name.

Ugh. Anyways, I think they traded up for ONE of those guys, but not sure.

Even Bellichick couldn't have traded out of the three spot. This is an absurdly premature assessment.

Is Scott Pioli jewish?

These comparisons to Scott Mitchell are ridiculous. Cassel started 15 games for the Patriots last year, and he put up very good numbers. More importantly, his performance improved dramatically as the season progressed. He had an entire season to prove his value. Scott Mitchell only played part of a season with the Dolphins before he signed his big contract with Detroit.

However, if you INSIST upon comparing Matt Cassel to Scott Mitchell, you should know that in Mitchell's second season in Detroit he threw for over 4,300 yards with 32 TDs and a QB rating of 92.3. If Cassel puts up numbers like that, I think most Chiefs fans would be just fine with that.

Mitchell had a very brief career because of several injuries, not because he lacked talent.

Really? I don't see many of them. Offensive remarks regarding gender, sexual orientation, and the mentally handicapped, but not a lot of race related stuff.

They traded during the Wilfork draft, but I don't know if it was up or down.

They took Ty Warren right around the time the Jags took Stroud. That pick was real mystery at the time.

I think it was Seymour that they traded up for.

What a stupid f'ing thread.

Your an idiot.:shake:

I was trying to remember Warren.

Oddly, Seymore and Warren were both under rated at the time. All the analysts were 'less than' impressed.

Play him off...

That blabbering buffoon Chuck Cook could of ran this draft while Haley and Pioli were gone on vacation in Scotland.

Close, but it is "your and idiot". ;)

Rounds 4 through 7 were certainly "Intern Blue Light Special".

I hate Jews.

Ooops! I mean, I think we had a terrible draft class.

(God, I hope nobody heard that.)

LMAO

ROFL

Yeah lets not forget that the Patriots had the 23rd pick and the Chiefs had the 3rd overall.

The Chiefs tried to trade down. Remember that in order to trade down someone has to want to trade up to your pick. With the 3rd pick, there is a lot to give up and a lot of money that's invested into that pick.

In other words, its much easier to trade down from the 23rd pick in the first rd than to trade down from the 3rd pick, especially this season where there wasn't a real strong top 10.

Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even Sanches said there was a lot of discussion about him going #3. Even if the Chiefs only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again witha mid to late 1st rounder. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

I don't even want to get into the way the picks were used on the 2nd day.

Ignorance is bliss... wait a minute no it's not.

Italian name+Balding=Jewish.

...interesting.

What a useless thread. Whoever thought Belichick wasn't running the show in New England?
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The balance of control in New England is VERY important considering Pioli is here running things without Belichek.

ROFLROFLROFL

Fair opinion but neg rep for the racist comment. I'm sick of seeing that shit on here.

Again, top-notch coaching is what turns "meh" drafts into "damn, they knew what they were doing" drafts - some are questioning all the trading down the Pats did this year and missing on better prospects - they probably won't be saying that in a couple years because that staff will coach them up and ask them to do things within the scheme that play to their strengths.

This all hinges on how good our coaches are.

Oh, ho ho haa ha ha. I get it, because Jews are tight with their money.

Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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Yeah do you remember how they all reacted after Herm was hired and several Jets fans came over here and told them exactly what would happen? hahaha I still get laughs out of that. I didn't see that post yesterday Frankie, but its good to know not everybody around here just sits around and drinks the koolaid.

NICE back peddle! Your audacity amazes me more and more each day.

Just so you know Italian Americans - especially my wife's relatives are very frugal people, they only give up their dough to family members, and live within their means.

Maybe this wasn't the draft to go balls to the wall with trades, because we already have reshaped the team considerably this offseason, he doesn't know exactly what he's got to work with yet, and he needs to keep his ammo for next year.

Maybe Pioli was drafting within his means, until he gets a better idea of what we really have and don't have? Plus with no second, hard to move up, and no one with anything of value wanted us to move down.

Well if you're correct, that would explain Pioli's inability to move around in the draft this year. Let's just hope that his talent evaluation is better than his draft managing.

Maybe he could go back up to New England and take some "how to make a ****ing trade" classes from Belichek.

What backpeddle. Pioli did a great job in NE and he'll do a great job here I believe.

That doesn't mean he was in charge of the Patriots, you dumbass.
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Stockpiling picks for an uncapped year is a bad idea.

I forgot. You are one of assholes too.
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Difference is after Pioli was hired Patriots fans came here and said great hire.

I find it intresting that "Drinking the kool-aid" now means all takes that aren't everything sucks.

And look how he left your boy Cassel open for a fun day(s) of "On your ass, and eating grass".

Quite the genius that felllow, what with the ungodly deep reservoir of O-line talent in this draft, no?

I love how its already a given that the draft sucked. Because of a few assholes on chiefs planet say so.
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I'd like to believe too. Do I just click my heels together and say "Jesus Berry Kool-Aid Oh YEAH" three times?

:doh!:

Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.

Anything of substance to say?
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Actually yes! I guess you missed it:

I must have missed something. Has the season started yet?

Well while you guys masturbate I have to get back to work. Later.
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I wonder who did the contract negotiations, Belicheck or Pioli? Will we see another STFD and stfu moment?

Scott Buddhistioli.

This thread sucks & RaisedOnRiots is obviously DarthCarlSatan.

They will ride ol Bill for another 10 years based on the the 3 rings. Even if they don't make the SB at all he will be allowed to do whatever he wants.

Scott Atheioli?
Scott Hindioli?
Scott Lutherioli?
Scott Baptioli?
Scott Wiccioli?

THIS.

The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.

This

Wow, you catch on quick!

Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?