Sanchez...I hope he sucks.
 

I'm not proud of the fact that I hope Sanchez turns out to be a dismal failure.

It started with the planet arguing about Sanchez vs. Cassel. I don't mind a decent argument on QB's but after getting rid of both Carl and Herm that alone should have been enough of a positive move forward to keep the issue civil. Taking issue with Pioli picking the QB he wanted over an unproven college draftee was silly. Then bitching about not picking Sanchez during the draft for trade bait instead of letting Pioli getting the guy he really wanted sealed the deal.

So for mostly whiny, petty feelings I hope he sucks. I don't want him to get hurt but would love to see him crying on the sidelines when he's finally replaced as a starter. I hope the first time he's called on to make a game saving throw it's evident when he chits is pants. I hope Blackledge has better numbers when their collective careers are done.

I'm going to root against him more than I did Elway. Ok, that was a stretch but I will totally enjoy every interception, every bad pass, every sack.

I hope he sucks, mostly because I can't stand the Jets.

I don't have anything against the guy, but hearing Berman proclaim him "Broadway Mark Shanchez" about made me sick.

I think John Matrix hopes he sucks, too.

i dont hope he sucks, but i do hope cassel is better. and i think the 2 are VERY comparable

I like Sanchez, but I just hope Cassell is better. Sanchez got placed on a much better TEAM, so he has an advantage there.

I should go on record saying I don't have anything personal against the guy, other than I hope he sucks.

Until which of course, the Jet's dump him and we pick him up on waivers to be Cassel's backup. At that time I'll ask the mods to go back 4 years and delete this thread.

Yeah...probably better hope he sucks, because the Chiefs will look pretty stupid if he goes on to several pro bowls.

unless cassel does the same thing, and why just the chiefs??? what about stl and seattle? their qbs arent young, if sanchez ends up great they could have upgraded too

Yeah, them too, but I don't care about them.

fair enough:thumb:

LMAO

I don't really care. His path and ours were only connected by the slimmest of theories. We could go through hypotheticals with any situation, but at the end of the day Cassel is our QB and Sanchez is NY's.

So did Hosanna come to New York and walk on the Hudson River today?
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What?

You mean that theory of Clark wanting to develop a young, franchise QB and Sanchez declaring for the draft and clearly being a top prospect and Pioli deciding that he'd rather go with his boy from NE?

The connection is already established. The Chiefs, for the first time in a long time, were in position to draft a franchise QB and we passed. We can't make the same claim about Ryan last year. Dude was off the board.

Chiefs fans now need to hope that the new GM was/is right.

maybe we did draft a franchise qb.... with the #34 pick

I could go through every draft in the past 40 years and find people we "should" have drafted. Circumstance dictated that we didn't for one reason or another. This year, we already had our franchise QB. It's all a moot point.

Maybe.

We'll find out.

A lot of Pioli's chips are riding on the assumption that Cassel > Sanchez. As a fan, I hope he's right.

He had to consciously make this exact same decision. This has nothing to do with would of, could of.

I hope Sanchez is the second-coming of Rick Mirer, Heath Schuler, or Todd Marinovich.

Or Todd Blacklege. :D

Seriously.

Yes, there is a connection, hence the thread.

Of course.

Good thing my post wasn't in response to the OP then, but rather to the claim of the connection being only of the slimmest margins.

There's a lot of hate in this thread.

JFC.

It will pale in comparison to the threads that will be started if/when Sanchez lights it up...

(Insert name of draftee that didn't fill a position of need)...I hope he sucks.

I actually think he's gonna be pretty good. He's got that swagger about him and that's just my prediction.

maybe he thinks they are = which means pioli got great "value" with the pick

spending the 34 rather than the 3

God knows you're the beacon of love and tolerance, Dane.

I'd be willing to buy that argument if he then didn't spend the #3 overall on a 3-4 DE, which says anything but value.

Plus, if you'd really think the two equal, you take the younger option.

Right. I clearly see the connection.

Good. I don't like it when my connections are tenuous. But I believe that we're really connecting here.

No kidding....the irony is side-splittingly hilarious. LMAO

If Cassel sucks THAT bad, then we can draft Bradford next year....

ok
in my mind the 2 are very comparable though. and many others see it. cassel has actually done it in the NFL

I KNEW IT.

I'm just ecstatic the draft is over. For CP's sake. Watching two separate groups so entrenched in their beliefs and convictions that they almost became irrational animals was sort of like wandering into the DC forum.

And I don't even hate Sanchez, yet. But I'm sure I'll get sick of ESPN's swallowing his mexi-roll by at least the 3rd or 4th week into the regular season that I'll start to develop a small seed of hate for him.

He has all the potential to be a great QB for the Jets, but I hesitate because the Jets are almost forced to throw him in the fire Week 1 and he's going to struggle. Who do the Jets have for him to throw the ball to outside of Jericho Cotchery? He needs to work on raising his release point, dealing with the New York wind and adjust to scanning a pro Defense.

My thinking has always been Pioli picked Cassel because he was a known commodity (to him) and that in rebuilding a team at this point in time Cassel makes more sense then going with a rookie.

In the end Pioli is using Cassel as a patch while building the team from the line out. He's hedging his bets Cassel will fill a need long enough to fix our deeper other problems.

Not this.

i disagree here, IMO there will be a longterm deal in place soon

Knew what? lol.

I'm ALL about giving Cassel a chance. He has succeeded at the NFL level for a year, I think he should be given another chance. Personally I think he should be given more then just another 1 year chance, but I'm saying if he is THAT bad... and I'm talking BAD.... then we can just draft Bradford next year. Makes sense to me!

and I'm only mentioning Bradford because I know there will be lots of CP jocking his nuts next year. You can use his name as a variable to whatever QB you think is the next jesus.

My argument in another thread was that even if Cassel has a Pro Bowl year, people will be calling for him to be traded so that we can draft Bradford. The grass is always greener.

Rep. Well said, sir, well said.

Thigpen out of the spread could have done this or some marginal vet. Pioli took Cassel to be his Brady.

Um, shouldn't we hope that the QB for every other team sucks?

With "patch" I meant "proven need". No doubt in my mind Pioli thinks Cassel fills that need. He chose him because he knew what he can do.

QB is a very tough position and he chose the guy thinking he wouldn't need to worry about that through the draft, training camp, season.

Yes.

Personally, I hope that about 93% of all the players drafted over the weekend suck. Sanchez just happens to be at or near the top of that list.

Right, I think I misued the word "patch".

ok, to me "patch" means a temporary fix. not a 7-10 year player(which cassel can and IMO will be)

**** Yeah!

Yep. Almost as bad as when they were calling Matt Ryan "mattie ice" :shake:

What have the Jets ever touched, that amounted to anything?

I'm not sure New York City is prepared to handle a star of the magnitude of Mark Sanchez. Sure they've hosted Presidents, Popes, Elvis, the Beatles but nothing will compare to this kind of greatness.
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Like ****ing hell there will be. I'll back Thigshit before ever desiring any of the 2010 QB Three Stooges.

Maybe instead of names for future Chiefs drafts, next to each QB candidate they can they can just grease board "Do Not Want".
Somewhere, Todd Blackledge is pulling his pud in victory because his "Only 1st Round QB ever drafted by the Chiefs" record still stands triumphantly on the books.

****ing pathetic.

When Sanchez makes his first Pro Bowl, can I punch you in the vagina?:thumb:

Playing in New York he'll be selected for the Pro Bowl the first time he completes a ****ing screen pass.

A-Rod and Jeter will have to retire now. They will be so blinded by the light.
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I'll take that as a "yes".

I rally don't think he'll be that good. He played in a terribly weak conference in college and played only 2 or 3 ranked teams iirc. Granted he didn't have all world wrs like mecca loves pointing out but in their case, they didn't have to play any good corners. Sanchez won't be the next matt ryan or joe flacco. I doubt he'll do any better than favre did last year. Cassel will probably have a better year. His 16 nfl games > sanchez's 13 college games.

But no matter what, none of the dirty sanchez dick riders can say he'll be great. 13 games at a legendary college vs. Medeocre at best teams is not all that special.
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Oh, shit! Well thank YOU magic 8-ball!!!! While were at it, when will the economy recover?
:rolleyes:

Oh damn mecca isn't here so you can cosign on him? Well I guess you can say random shit until he comes along. I know you know nothing and just cosign on the things he and hamas say.
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Magic 8-Ball, can you tell me when Mecca will show up so I can cosign on him?

Depends on when his mother let's him come out the basement.
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Sanchez was such a media and internet hype creation its hysterical anybody bought into it. Oh boy he's a qb and he plays at USC he must simply great. As usual the stupid **** Jets are the suckers. Can't wait for what Belichick has in store for youngster.
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You know, we can throw around jabs and be goofy about this shit but the fact of the matter is, when it comes to Sanchez and your takes on him?

You're a fool. An absolute fool. And there's nothing funny about being a fool.

But I can see why Pioli would take Cassel instead. He's familiar with him. He's safe.
And he's a wonderful "feel good under dog" angle that plays right up to a fan base starved for anything that might give them hope.
Let's hope he can live up to HIS "one year wonder" hype.

Funny how you menion one year wonder when sanchez himself is a one year wonder....
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You are a ****ing moron.

Are you going to tell us that Rex Ryan drafted Mark Sanchez because he's an "internet sensation"?

Seriously?

If so, you're dumber than I'd previously given you credit.

Enjoy the short bus!

Listen..I'm pretty content with Cassell. I don't mind that we gave up a 2nd rounder for him, and although our 1st round pick was a reach, I'm not bent out of shape about that either. I hope Cassell becomes a Pro Bowl QB and takes us to eleventy billion Superbowl's. I do. I don't harbor any resentment towards him or the administration.

I do, however, acknowledge that Sanchez is a great talent. One year starting aside, he is THE prototypical NFL QB. He's pretty much everything you could want. If he'd stayed in school, it is unquestionable he'd have been the consensus #1 pick in the 2010 draft. To say he's a product of hype or that he's gonna fall flat on his face because he wasn't ready is ludicrous. I can understand hating the guy, I can even understand hoping he'll fail in the league, but I can't understand the logic that "He'll suck" or "He's just hype". That's ridiculous.

Uh, because they're BOTH "one year wonders"????

This. Rep.

I think PZ is a Pioli lackey and/or intern. That's the ONLY thing that could explain his ridiculousness.
Or he's just being a goober.

This was a ****in awesome post.

So did Leinart.

Mmm....who else is from USC?

Oh.:huh:

You think our fans are rough. If he doesn't preform the NY press and fans will eat him alive and send him crying for Mama.

Go ahead... mention Bradford to Mecca. I dare you. ROFL

Yeah, Leinart sucks.

I don't have ANY idea why he can't beat out a Hall of Fame QB.

Piece of shit.

LMAO

Yeah that spin isn't going to work. Leinart was given the prime opportunity to start yet he sucked even though he had 2 all world wide receivers. Kurt was on the backside of his career. He had bounced around the league like a 2nd tier backup. There is no way he should have won the competiton agaisnt leinart if leinart was halfway decent.
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I hope he sucks if for nothing else than not having to hear the east coast media drone on and on about the New York teams. I'm already seeing way too much Eli Manning on my TV...

How about this. He has only played 2 or 3 ranked team, all the others were mediocre at best with terrible corners. There's no way he should have failed. He he put up comparable numbers to booty. The pac10 is a terrible so its not like he was playing real talent. His own coach even said he's not ready. How the hell are you going to argue with him. People are saying that carrol only said that just so he could have sanchez back another year, but seriously usc has been cranking out qbs like no other. It will only be a year until people are on mustains ball sack. Damn near every qb to go through usc will seem successful.
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