On to the 2010 Draft
 

So who are the top defensive prospects coming out next year?

Give me Taylor Mays or Eric Berry.

I like Taylor Mays alot. Anybody see any standout 3-4 pass rushers?

I think there's a good chance Adrian Clayborn is a standout this season and might be a good mid-round 3-4 DE.

we need LBs (many), a WR, center/guard/RT, safety, and maybe a RB

*insert token USC, Ohio St, Texas, SEC players here*

Man, I've been singin this kid's praises since the first game I saw him play. Great physical player. Good instincts, he'll be a good player.

I got some good reviews on the kid here on this board when we recruited him and so far he hasn't disappointed.

How about nose tackles, assuming we have a need after this season's experiment with players already on the roster?

I think the only guy I've really watched is Terrance Cody from Bama.

Selvie (OLB in NFL) USF
Spikes (LB) FL
Worilds (DL) - VT
Suh (DL) Neb
Weatherspoon (LB) - Miss

I might change my stance if Tank Tyler can't play the NT position. If he can....then I believe OLB and S become our biggest needs on D.

Eric Berry, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Carlos Dunlap (doesn't fit for us :deevee:), Everson Griffen (doesn't really fit for us), Terrence Cody

Bring in Spikes and Mays

Terrance Cody would be a good NT in the 3-4

Suh could be another good 3-4 DE.

There's our 1st round pick right there

Is it a weak year for WRs at this point?

TeeBow!!!!!

I think we should consider taking a DL early.

Yes. There are guys like Arrelious Benn, Dez Bryant and Damian Williams but as of now the prospects are not as good and the class isn't as deep.

Very strong DE class with Dunlap, Griffen, Norwood, Cunningham, Hardy, Selvie and others.

Very good DT/NT class with Cody, McCoy, Granger, Atkins, Suh, Marsh.

Awesome safety class with Berry and Mays at the top. Major Wright, Chad Jones and others are good too.

The real question for the Chiefs is: "Who's the best prospect out of LSU next year?"

Mays or Berry would be outstanding.

Ciron Black, OT or Brandon LaFell, WR

Do you think Griffen can develop into a rushbacker? I have only seen him a few times and I know he is very fast and athletic. 6'3 260 or something like that, good size for a rushbacker. It seems like he would be able to make that transition, but I haven't seen him enough to make that judgment.

No. He fits. He can play for any team if he is as good as some people are saying he is. Saw on one site that he was 6'7", 290lbs and runs a 4.63. If that is true, then he can play the "predator" position for us, and rush the shit out of the QB all game long.

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I guess he really is that big, and that fast. That needs to be our pick for future OLB/Predator.

Side note...
When you read about kids like him, doesn't it just make you shake your head and think about how unfair it is that you werent born with their physical talents... bastards!

As of now.

My favorite QBs...

Jevan Snead, Ole Miss
Colt McCoy, Texas
Tim Hiller, Western Michigan

My favorite RBs (all of them bigger, LJ-type backs)...

Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
LeGarrette Blount, Oregon
Charles Scott, LSU

My favorite WRs (all of them downfield threats)...

Carlton Mitchell, South Florida
(This is a really weak WR year coming in.)

My favorite OL...

OG Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
OG John Jerry, Ole Miss
RT Mike Johnson, Alabama
C Kristofer O'Dowd, USC
C John Estes, Hawaii

My favorite NT...

NT Boo Robinson, Wake Forest
NT Boo Robinson, Wake Forest
NT Boo Robinson, Wake Forest
NT Terrence Cody, Alabama

My favorite rushbackers... this is not a bad draft for them...

Dexter Davis, Arizona State
Rahim Alem, LSU
Auston English, Oklahoma
Antonio Coleman, Auburn
George Selvie, South Florida
Jermaine Cunningham, Florida

My favorite defensive backs (other than free safeties, I like bigger DBs)...

FS/SS Taylor Mays, USC
FS Eric Berry, Tennessee
SS Chad Jones, LSU

At this point, I am not excited about the CB class at all.

My favorite five picks for a hypothetical Top 10 pick next year:

1. NT Boo Robinson, Wake Forest
2. OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
3. S Taylor Mays, USC
4. OLB George Selvie, South Florida
5. NT Terrance Cody, Alabama

Todd Reesing!

Pick up Chase Daniel off the waiver wire!

2010 draft?

Please, God, make it stop.

Taylor Mays is going to be ridiculous in the NFL. He's been a ****ing man child for almost 7 years now.

Not sure. I haven't seen much of Griffen, but his measurables say yes. I'll watch more of him this coming season.

Dunlap is that big (6'6" - 6'7", 290lbs) and he is that fast (somewhere between 4.6 and 4.7). He is a Mario Williams clone and I think he can be even better. He should go Top 3. I expect him to have a monster year and I also expect Jermaine Cunningham to regain his sophomore season form and each to benefit from the other as well as Omar Hunter finally seeing the field and taking up blockers along with Lawrence Marsh.

The Florida D is going to be spectacular this year that any one player may not get crazy stats because there is so much talent (a la USC 2008). Carlos Dunlap, Brandon Spikes, Jermaine Cunningham, Lawrence Marsh, Joe Haden and Major Wright should all be high draft picks in 2010 and then there's Janoris Jenkins, Justin Trattou, Omar Hunter, Dustin Doe, AJ Jones, Lorenzo Edwards, Brandon Hicks, Wondy Pierre-Louis, Ahmad Black, Will Hill and Dee Finley. The next 1-3 years the NFL will see a lot of Florida D players go in the first 3 rounds.

Taylor Mays is a crazy athlete. Eric Berry makes me think of Ed Reed.

Assuming nothing goofy happens, like injury, this dude would be a sick draft choice.

I really like Jevan Snead.

For RB I like CJ Spiller, Jahvid Best and I think Caleb King can have a strong year.

WR is meh - but Dez Bryant and Arrelious Benn.

I think Brandon Spikes can be a damn fine rush backer at the next level.

Love the 3 safeties you mentioned. I also like Major Wright as a SS.

Heh. Walterfootball's 2010 mockdraft. With the third overall selection:

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/chiefsb_logo.gif Kansas City Chiefs: Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas http://walterfootball.com/college/Texas_logo.gif
Projected 2009 NFL Draft Pick (as of 4/21): ILB Aaron Curry

With Aaron Curry in the middle of Kansas City's defense, the Chiefs will be able to focus on the exterior come 2010. Sergio Kindle had 10.5 sacks and 21 TFL as a junior. At 6-4, 254, Kindle could run a low 4.5 40, making him the top rush linebacker available in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Does Russell Okung from Oklahoma St. project as a RT in the NFL?

Somewhere, Mecca's head just exploded.

So much juiciness next year. Carlos "Fuzzy" Dunlap makes me hard; can you imagine Dunlap and Glenn Dorsey on the same line in a 4-3? Oh, what could have been.

I'm psuedo-scouting for the Chiefs, though. We have little use for a speed guy. We'll need power first.

WR and CB both seem to be meh right now. Not thrilled with either class.

Spikes is a MLB but has great pass rushing ability -- I remember him making a fool out of Andre Smith. Whether that could translate to pass rushing full-time remains to be seen.

we already have an extra 2nd..i think trading Gonzo will be seen as a huge coup for us next year...

When talk was of him being in the 2009 draft many thought he'd transition best as a DE/OLB or a LB who would move to rush DE on passing downs. He has good cover skills, is a monster tackler but he also has very good talent at rushing off the edge. I think he fits in a 4-3, 3-4 or hybrid.

I'd tend to think we'd be looking for a NT if we don't have one on the roster now, if we do then OLB and possibly a freak a S (if no OLB is worth it) would be areas we'd be looking at.

I know it doesn't really matter, but it's amazing to think we're going to have major needs in an area that has seen the investment of 3 first rounders, 1 second rounder, and 1 third rounder.

Wow.

It's ****ing gross. Two top 5 picks in the last 10 years dedicated to defensive line. But in all fairness, we're apparently just going to throw one away. Dorsey will not bust.

Does LSU have one coming out?

Listen here, Donkey! :cuss:

Seems like a good year for NTs and 3-4 OLBs. That is what we need.

Of course, by the actual draft next year it could be completely different.

Spikes would be amazing. He is a BAMF.

I'd be willing to bet that this year was an anomaly, given the situation with the late start, the scouts, and everything.

I'll bet we're far more active next year.

what about RBs and WRs?

anyone know if there might be a RB/WR in the second that we couldn't afford to pass on?

Mecca actually likes Sergio Kindle...This dude is by far the best guy to come out of Texas next year. Hes got a chance to be special.

WR Arrelious Benn from Illinois. He might go in the first though. But this guy looks promising.

There are a few good HB's for next year in the 2nd round I believe. I like Jahvid Best.

He's from Texas. Pass.

Just curious. Have you seen him play? He's is probably the best thing to come out of Texas since Casey Hampton. He should go to atleast 2 probowl's in the same time period that DJ has been in the NFL.

What kcroc said about mecca liking Kidle is true, he does like him in next year's draft.

Given how much mecca dislikes Texas prospects in general it speaks volumes to how good Kindle is.

Come'on. Lets not ride the Mecca bandwagon. Lets form our own opinions on the guy. I understand what your saying, but you make it sound like Mecca is the ruler of all draft prospects.

I'm not riding mecca's bandwagon.

Kindle is a damn good player.

I am just using mecca to illustrate just how good he is.

Does he project as an OLB in the 3-4? Doesn't really have the weight right now, at 239.

Plus some of the short pieces of analysis on the kid make me want to vomit:

"Kindle is one of the most intriguing prospects due to his ability to play multiple positions in college. If he played running back, we¹d compare his game to Eddie George. But we think he¹ll start at linebacker where he is already drawing comparisons to Derrick Johnson given his HT/WT/Speed package."

I'm just saying...

I don't think you're remembering correctly, because Spikes was non existent in the Florida vs Bama game, he did absolutely nothing.

I think those comparisons just begin and end with the HT WT Speed ratio that you put on there. He actually weighs around 255 last time I checked. He could be a great fit as a rush LB in the 3-4 if he can put on 10 more pounds and not lose his speed. The guy was a monster when he played runningback, they compare him to Eddie George/Eric Dickerson IMO because he ran straight up and down. That is one thing I want to see more of in Kindle is to bend his knees more. He plays a little to upright for my liking.

Jeremy Beal appears to be an ideal outside 3-4 linebacker. A little undersized as a 4-3 d-end and owned our 5th round draft pick.

heh. I dont know much about this guy, who is he with?

If that's the case, he'll probably go long before we pick anyway, so it's moot.

Sipping the kool-aid, huh? ;)

No, I just think we're going to win 5 or 6 games, which means we'll pick somewhere between 6 and 10.

If he's so good that playing at Texas doesn't matter, he'll go top 5 guaranteed.

Well he is a linebacker. He will probably go between 7-12

Just funnin' you. I still think we are going to go 9-7. May seem a bit high, but I just think we can do well within the division. 5-1 possibly.

7 tackles + 2 QB hurries = non existent & absolutely nothing

to be fair, those are extremely average stats for a middle linebacker.

Absolutely. He didn't have a good game, but to say he was non-existent and did absolutely nothing is not accurate.

OU, in one of if not his first start he terrorized Chase Daniels in San Antonio as a red shirt freshman. Unless he really bulks up, he appears to be a better outside lb in a 3-4 than a DE in a 4-3.

Yeah I remember him now. Ill have to begin my research on some of these guys soon.

Me too. Anyone know of a few sites that has scouting reports out now? the ones i go to don't have much on 2010 just projected top players by positions

I wouldnt worry to much about the scouting reports for now. A lot can change over this next college season. I would kind of watch whatever vids you can find for now, then during the season keep your eye on which ever guy you want to know more about. That way you can see the good and bad of each player, instead of just highlights. Then I would look for some scouting reports closer to the end of the season, and compare them with your observations.

I'm opposite of that, I like to look at the reports first and record as many games as possible then make my own notes and reports from game tape, I don't believe in highlight videos at all. I then base everything off of my notes and compare them to other reports.

The reports I read early(usually sometime between now and midsummer is when the majority come out) just give me an idea of what games to watch and who to watch for. Helpful on who might leave early and such.

I usually take a month or 2 off before starting in on the next draft, but I'm excited about the extra 2nd and some of the players in next years class

Im real excited about next year already. The day after the draft I was mentioning to my girl that it might be a bad thing that im already excited about next year because ill be begging for it to get here faster. Im already falling in love with Eric Berry and he might not even go pro? It would suck to have to wait until 2011 to see Berry in an NFL uniform. I love college football, but the NFL is truly the test to see what your made of.

I always pick out about 5 guys that I think will be drafted next year and watch each of their games, and gather as much info on them as possible.

This high school football season im taking my BLESTO scouting sheet to local games, meeting some area scouts and taking notes like the rest of them.

you're going to scout high school football? without pay, for fun?
who were the other 4 guys you scouted last year besides Curry? who's gonna shine who's gonna flop?

Yep, without pay, for fun. Getting my name around to the other guys and meeting people. Thats the best way to get into the scouting business. On the downside, if you become a full time scout, you wont have much of a life outside of it due to constant traveling. I knew a guy that had to quit his professional scouting career just to keep his family. He never had any time with them, his kids, his wife, or anyone. He loved it other than that.

Anyways, I kept a good eye on Stafford last year. I would go out on a limb and say "hes gonna shine" because trust me, he has every tool you look for in a QB. He has mental lapses at times, but being in Detroit im afraid will truly hinder his growth as an NFL QB. I dont want to see him turn into David Carr, constantly on his back getting sacked.

I watched a few games on Brian Orakpo, not all of them. But I saw 7 so I had a fair evaluation on him. He will be a hit or miss prospect. You will either not hear his name in 5 years, or he will have gone to 2 pro-bowls. If the Redskins D-line coaches can really get on him, and teach him how to rush the passer in the NFL he will be fantastic. He does disappear sometimes in games, but he knows how to play when hes needed most. He was mostly dominant against good competition.

I watched 3 games on Heyward-Bey, and was not real impressed. I guess to be fair Maryland just doesnt throw the ball that much. He has awesome straight-line speed obviously, and can accelerate away from defenders. But that was in college, in the NFL I dont see him being anything special. He drops too many passes from what ive seen. I would say, Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, even Ramses Barden will end up with better NFL careers than Heyward-Bey. I think he is an alright kid, pretty soft-spoken in his interviews but I will be very surprised if he ends up having a good NFL career. Hes the type of player that might have 50 catches for 800 yards his rookie year, but NFL teams will quickly figure him out and be able to shut him down.

I watched 9 games on a guy named Will Davis from Illinois. Hes a DE drafted in the 6th round this year. Was only a junior, but I think he has nice upside in the NFL. Hes very athletic, although he didnt run a good 40 time at the combine. He needs a lot of technique work when rushing the passer, he doesnt get off blocks very well initially. but I think the perfect team drafted him. He will fit in Arizona's scheme very well if they keep the hybrid which it looks like they will.

Other than these guys, I watched a few guys in a couple games, but didnt actually break down and watch each game. Hakeem Nicks reminds me A LOT of Dwayne Bowe when I watch him. He will be an interesting player, and I think he has a great future in the NFL.

Next year I need to pick out an O-lineman and do some work on him. But the DB's in next years class look incredible. This years class was very weak overall. But next year if we get a top 10 pick I dont think we can miss on whoever we draft.

Ya, I was just thinking I'd rather just watch college and take notes if I felt like doing that, but there's something to be said for the live experience. Not sure which gives you the better view, though. I like to be able to pause, rewind, and rewatch a play a few times to figure out what happened if I need to. It would be fun to watch football for a job, that's for sure.

As for next year, lookin forward to seein those pass rushers :)