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Chiefshrink

04-28-2009 01:27 PM

Check out Donald Washington's vertical...

he will definitely be able to compete for the ball with all the big WR's-nooooo problem!!!! :thumb:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f34fb5

KCChiefsMan

04-28-2009 01:29 PM

he's definately a great athlete

Chiefshrink

04-28-2009 01:30 PM

Standing long jump is almost out of the box. This kid could be the defensive version of Larry Fitzgerald. Great explosion!!!

Pablo

04-28-2009 01:34 PM

Damn..dude pivots pretty fuckin nice..and he's got hops.

Johnny Vegas

04-28-2009 01:34 PM

what was that a 45" vert?

Pablo

04-28-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 5722616)

what was that a 45" vert?

Yessir.

beach tribe

04-28-2009 01:35 PM

Good value pick. This guy has the potential to put Carr in the nickel spot.

Pablo

04-28-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5722620)

Good value pick. This guy has the potential to put Carr in the nickel spot.

Yep..I gotta say with Flowers, Carr, Leggett, and now Washington in the DB position I'm pretty excited about the potential talent at the DB position for the next 6-10 years.

Johnny Vegas

04-28-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5722619)

Yessir.

I can't believe he's only 6'0. Starter?

beach tribe

04-28-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5722629)

Yep..I gotta say with Flowers, Carr, Leggett, and now Washington in the DB position I'm pretty excited about the potential talent at the DB position for the next 6-10 years.

Yepper.

Pablo

04-28-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 5722648)

I can't believe he's only 6'0. Starter?

He could certainly contend for a starting spot with athletic ability like that.

Think he was a bit of an under-producer at OSU...didn't really live up to expectations.

loochy

04-28-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5722629)

Yep..I gotta say with Flowers, Carr, Leggett, and now Washington in the DB position I'm pretty excited about the potential talent at the DB position for the next 6-10 years.

That's great hopefully they can hold coverage for the 15 to 20 seconds it takes our line to get pressure on the QB........

Pablo

04-28-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 5722662)

That's great hopefully they can hold coverage for the 15 to 20 seconds it takes our line to get pressure on the QB........

Yep..hopefully.

beach tribe

04-28-2009 01:45 PM

WOW. Just watched the whole vid. This guy could be a steal. He looks great.

Valiant

04-28-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5722629)

Yep..I gotta say with Flowers, Carr, Leggett, and now Washington in the DB position I'm pretty excited about the potential talent at the DB position for the next 6-10 years.

If we don't get pressure it is a moot point..

DaneMcCloud

04-28-2009 01:47 PM

Let's just hope he doesn't make Westport and The Plaza his number one priority.

Valiant

04-28-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5722673)

WOW. Just watched the whole vid. This guy could be a steal. He looks great.

Well hopefully it translates onto the field.. Bigger WR should be able to push him around at his size, so he will have to use his intangibles to get around that..

beach tribe

04-28-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 5722681)

If we don't get pressure it is a moot point..

I think we are going to get more pressure than we did last year. If Vrabel is healthy, he can pull 9 sacks, and generate pressure. Hopefully someone else will emerge in our new scheme.

Mr. Arrowhead

04-28-2009 01:55 PM

Hes a champ bailey type of corner athletically, he just prolly needs a year to develop. This could end up being one of our better picks

Fish	04-28-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5722620)

Good value pick. This guy has the potential to put Carr in the nickel spot.

I haven't been overly impressed with Carr. I could see Washington supplanting him if his measurables transfer to the field....

Direckshun

04-28-2009 02:02 PM

Good ****ing lord, that's outrageous.

Anybody else see how he just floats in the air at the end of that final drill?

DaWolf

04-28-2009 02:04 PM

Let's just hope his head is screwed on straight. He's got the ability...

Mr. Krab

04-28-2009 02:06 PM

I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?

Stats

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htismaqe

04-28-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)

I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?

He's raw and undisciplined. So much so that he got benched while at tOSU. I think he's a great prospect, perhaps even a potential #1 CB in the league, but not right away.

Molitoth

04-28-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)

I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?

Maybe they didn't throw to his side so much.? I really don't know.

MOhillbilly

04-28-2009 02:29 PM

my uncle related me a story about when the titans drafted jevon kearse. said when kearse came into the workout room one of the coaches aske how high his vert. was. kearse replied how high is the drop ceiling, steve waters said it was about 12 ft. kearse palmed it.

gta0012

04-28-2009 02:30 PM

Wow. I really like this guy. Hopefully we can develop him. Our DB's are nasty. I'm actually getting excited about the youth on this team. We'll have to see how this draft class pans out.

Micjones

04-28-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5722841)

:eek:
Insane!

SBK	04-28-2009 02:56 PM

My bro-in-law is a die hard Buckeye, he texted me the second we drafted him and said "steal of the draft"....

ChiefsRoyalsMizzou

04-28-2009 02:59 PM

holy sh** :eek:

CoMoChief

04-28-2009 03:33 PM

Our defense will suck for a couple more seasons IMO.

MOhillbilly

04-28-2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5723100)

Our defense will suck for a couple more seasons IMO.

i dont think so. i believe by mid season KC will be around 15th in total D. loads of talent on this team,believe it or not.

Mr. Krab

04-28-2009 03:37 PM

Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

MOhillbilly

04-28-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)

Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

true but i got the feel that the D was was just as tired of gun as the fans. like a black fog over the team.

RustShack

04-28-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)

Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

Our talent wasn't terrible last year, the coaching was. Jackson, Magee, Washington, Daniels, Thomas, Vrabel, Robertson, Mays, and Beisel are pretty big upgrades over what we had too.

shitgoose

04-28-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5723104)

i dont think so. i believe by mid season KC will be around 15th in total D. loads of talent on this team,believe it or not.

I think it hinges on the transition to a 3-4. We have some leadership now with Vrabel and Thomas. Hopefully DJ plays to his potential and the guys on our line spend more time on the opposing teams line of scrimmage.

Fritz88

04-28-2009 03:39 PM

The guy's got potential.

MOhillbilly

04-28-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 5723119)

its why i said by mid season. it also depends on how the offense does throwing the ball. if the O is something crazy like top ten/five itll hurt the Ds numbers. i agree though there is some leadership in place and a new start gets everybody amped.

I think KC will suprise some people this next year.

wasi	04-28-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)

Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

I could live with saying the talent level might be the same or slightly higher than last year. However, I think there will be improvement because the rookies last year will have had an entire offseason to condition themselves and hopefully they learned to apply their talent (albeit marginal in some cases) better than last year as rookies.

I also think having the likes of Thomas and Vrabel on the field will help. I see improvement happening.

Fritz88

04-28-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)

True. But he can be coached. That's my only consolation.

shitgoose

04-28-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5723130)

I hope your right. It would be nice to see the team progress as the season goes on compared to them sucking all season long like the last two years.

Brock

04-28-2009 03:47 PM

Getting rid of Herm and Gunther should easily translate into two wins by itself.

Cosmos

04-28-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)

Only 9 reps on the bench press...

FD	04-28-2009 10:49 PM

Asante Samuel was taken in the 4th round too, I believe.

Thanks for the vid.

KCinNY

04-28-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5723160)

Getting rid of Herm and Gunther should easily translate into two wins by itself.

At least.

6-10 should be automatic with competent coaching.

Sure-Oz

04-28-2009 10:56 PM

Man they better coach this kid up, he could do great things

Red Beans

04-29-2009 06:20 AM

His physical skills border on the reeruned!

KcFanInGA

04-29-2009 06:29 AM

I am feelin this guy, what a steal, if we coach him right.

SenselessChiefsFan

04-29-2009 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)

Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

I think this team will be much different. Think about it. We have two new starting linebackers, our top backup (Beisel) is new.

Chiefs have two new defensive linemen. Plus, the biggest part of it all will be experience. Dorsey, Flowers and Carr, all legitamite starters last year, will be much better.

There are still many questions, but tons of reasons for optimism too.

SenselessChiefsFan

04-29-2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 5723156)

I hope your right. It would be nice to see the team progress as the season goes on compared to them sucking all season long like the last two years.

HEY... the Chiefs IMPROVED over the last season... they sucked less at the end of the season than they sucked at the beginning... still sucked.... but less.

htismaqe

04-29-2009 07:17 AM

I know people don't like the thought of going 8-8, but I learned my lesson on Saturday - we DO NOT WANT to ever pick in the Top 5 again.

I have this team going 7-9. I think a change in attitude and better coaching, along with the subtle talent upgrades we've made, are good for 4-5 more wins. I think we NEED to win at least 6 games to avoid the shitty scenario we had this year.

Pablo

04-29-2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724836)

I know people don't like the thought of going 8-8, but I learned my lesson on Saturday - we DO NOT WANT to ever pick in the Top 5 again.

Unless we need a Franchise QB or a LT. Which we don't.

I'd like to think the Chiefs can win 7 games next year, but the schedule is just brutal, and we're going to be implementing all new offensive and defensive schemes with a totally new staff and a host of new players. I'm going to stay cautiously optomistic, and go with 5-11, hoping for 7-9.

htismaqe

04-29-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5722718)

I haven't been overly impressed with Carr. I could see Washington supplanting him if his measurables transfer to the field....

He's a hard worker and a smart player, but that will only take you so far. I said it the minute they drafted Washington - there's one thing on his bio that stands out against the other guys on the roster.

He's a legitimate 6' tall.

I'm a little bit concerned that the new GM and coaching staff have some "things" in their profile that they're going to stick to regardless of whether or not they make much sense.

milkman

04-29-2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724836)

Best case scenario, these guys win 6 games.

But if I were predicting right now, I'd say 4 wins.

htismaqe

04-29-2009 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5724838)

Unless we need a Franchise QB or a LT. Which we don't.

We had needs at pretty much every position this last draft and it was still a problem. It's no longer about need - the salaries are so out of control that it's just not worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5724838)

I'd like to think the Chiefs can win 7 games next year, but the schedule is just brutal, and we're going to be implementing all new offensive and defensive schemes with a totally new staff and a host of new players. I'm going to stay cautiously optomistic, and go with 5-11, hoping for 7-9.

I don't put in any stock in schedules anymore. Every year there's a half dozen or more teams that dramatically underperform or overperform compared to expectations.

EyePod

04-29-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5722602)

Standing long jump is almost out of the box. This kid could be the defensive version of Larry Fitzgerald. Great explosion!!!

He already jumps higher than Larry Fitz (from USA Today in 2005), Larry had a vert of 35.5".... I can't believe that's right though especially with this guy having a 45" vert... either way I'm excited to see what he can do.

El Jefe

04-29-2009 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=GonzoRox88;5722656]He could certainly contend for a starting spot with athletic ability like that.

Think he was a bit of an under-producer at OSU...didn't really live up to expectations.[/QUOTE]

Yea he was, he lived in Malcolm Jenkins shadow. Donald is a ridiculous athlete, and should definetely bump Carr out of his spot. He is a little unpolished but has all the tools necessary to be a very good player in the NFL.

CoMoChief

04-29-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5723104)

i dont think so. i believe by mid season KC will be around 15th in total D. loads of talent on this team,believe it or not.

Jesus Christ how many years now have people on this board have been saying this?

CoMoChief

04-29-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5723118)

Our talent wasn't terrible last year, the coaching was. Jackson, Magee, Washington, Daniels, Thomas, Vrabel, Robertson, Mays, and Beisel are pretty big upgrades over what we had too.

Beisel was here once and he sucked. I cant see how people think he's going to do any better this time around.

CoMoChief

04-29-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724836)

I know people don't like the thought of going 8-8, but I learned my lesson on Saturday - we DO NOT WANT to ever pick in the Top 5 again.

Not when you have a weak top 1st rd which is what I've been saying all along.

We needed to trade down and didn't because others didn't think anyone was really worth #3 money.

There wasn't a Mario Williams, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, anyone like that in this seasons draft. I mean Aaron Curry was listed as the best draft prospect for crying out loud.

Mr. Krab

04-29-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724836)

I don't know about that. Many times there are elite skill type players to be had in the top 5. This year's draft just sucked. Beside i think the next CBA contains some kind of rookie pay scale which will make the top 8 draft picks much easier to deal with and much more valuable in terms of trading.

Sweet Daddy Hate

04-29-2009 04:19 PM

That'll definitely work.

htismaqe

04-29-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5726567)

The next CBA won't contain any such thing. The players aren't just gonna cave like everybody thinks they will. They already get far less of the cut than players in other sports.

Next year's rookie salaries stand to be even worse than this year's.

aturnis

04-29-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5726645)

I disagree. I don't think any veteran likes seeing a first day employee making more than they do. Next years rookies are not a part of the players union. Who's going to speak on their behalf?

The less money that is spent on rookies, the more that can go to veterans.

htismaqe

04-29-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5727021)

The players want a bigger cut of the pie - the vets don't want to take money from the rookies, they want to take it from the OWNERS. And if you don't think veterans use rookie salaries as a bargaining tool, you're kidding yourself. If less money is spent on rookies, the vets lose part of their leverage for bigger contracts.

Pasta Little Brioni

04-29-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724846)

We had needs at pretty much every position this last draft and it was still a problem. It's no longer about need - the salaries are so out of control that it's just not worth it.

I don't put in any stock in schedules anymore. Every year there's a half dozen or more teams that dramatically underperform or overperform compared to expectations.

I laugh every time I read about how "difficult" or "easy" someone's schedule is the next year. Injuries, player development, player regression and coaching changes will cause dramatic changes like they do every year.

Tribal Warfare

04-29-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5722620)

Good value pick. This guy has the potential to put Carr in the nickel spot.

or maybe FS

htismaqe

04-29-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5727118)

or maybe FS

Some of the scouting reports listed him as a safety.

soundmind

04-29-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 5727107)

As do I, but you have to admit - at first glance, this years schedule looks hellish.

Tribal Warfare

04-29-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5727250)

Some of the scouting reports listed him as a safety.

Their you go then

gta0012

04-29-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5727576)

As do I, but you have to admit - at first glance, this years schedule looks hellish.

Injuries or not I'm also an eagles fan and the NFC is never an easy division to play.

alanm

04-29-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)

It might have to do with Ohio St's TOP. Maybe the defense wasn't on the field as long. Who knows? And as someone mentioned maybe they stayed away from him.

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