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DMAC 05-01-2009 07:50 PM

Dream Theater "Black Clouds & Silver Linings"
 
The first 2 songs are out...

Listening to A Nightmare To Remember

On First listen, this is ****ing awesome, really ****ing awesome.

:rockon:

http://www.dreamtheater.net/covers/bcsl_big.jpg

DMAC 05-01-2009 08:08 PM

Rite of Passage is badass too.

chiefs1111 05-01-2009 08:29 PM

Really looking forward to this album

DMAC 05-09-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 5732813)
Rite of Passage is badass too.

Here's the new video...

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Reaper16 05-09-2009 10:38 AM

"Nightmare" is pretty sweet, except for that part where Portnoy gets to do some really, really awful vocals. "Rite" is much less impressive to me.

chagrin 05-19-2009 06:19 PM

Just got the recording - it is, by far, light years beyond that last one.

chagrin 05-19-2009 06:24 PM

On "Wither" right now, it's about writer's block - and it's beautiful. This record is exactly what I needed this year, kick ass.

Reaper16 05-20-2009 12:08 AM

Yeah, this is DT's best album since Scenes From a Memory. There are parts in each song that I dislike, and I really don't care for The Shattered Fortress because it has like two minutes of new material (the other 98% is recycled bits, I mean references, from the other songs in the AA cycle), but taken on the whole its a strong record. The Count of Tuscany, despite its terrible lyrics, is a sweet closing song. Wither is probably DT's best song in a long, long time.

Lzen 05-20-2009 07:54 AM

I hate this. I have to wait until June 23 to listen to this album. They put Rite Of Passage on iTunes. I hate freakin' iTunes but I broke down and put it on my laptop the other day just so that I could download ROP. Now they have one of the songs from the cover songs disc on iTunes. It's Stargazer originally by Rainbow.

Oh, and the kicker is that I just discovered that I could have downloaded ROP from Amazon.com. :banghead:

DMAC 05-20-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5779192)
I hate this. I have to wait until June 23 to listen to this album. They put Rite Of Passage on iTunes. I hate freakin' iTunes but I broke down and put it on my laptop the other day just so that I could download ROP. Now they have one of the songs from the cover songs disc on iTunes. It's Stargazer originally by Rainbow.

Oh, and the kicker is that I just discovered that I could have downloaded ROP from Amazon.com. :banghead:

One question...why?

Lzen 05-20-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 5779206)
One question...why?

Why what?

DMAC 05-20-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5779252)
Why what?

Why wait?

Lzen 05-20-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 5779350)
Why wait?

Could you be any more vague?

I mean, the obvious answer is that the album does not come out until June 23. Last album, I got a couple of songs early but they were not very good quality. And frankly, I don't know how I would go about getting the album now (if that is what you're suggesting). I don't do Limewire or Pirate Bay.

beach tribe 05-20-2009 10:09 AM

Interesting. I've never really listened to these guys, which is strange because that's my kind of music. I'm going on Dream Theater marathon. Been listening to a lot of Bullet for my Valentine lately. I love the way they complement each other on guitar. Long live shredding.

Reaper16 05-20-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5779461)
Could you be any more vague?

I mean, the obvious answer is that the album does not come out until June 23. Last album, I got a couple of songs early but they were not very good quality. And frankly, I don't know how I would go about getting the album now (if that is what you're suggesting). I don't do Limewire or Pirate Bay.

I can link you to a .rar file of the album. No torrents or P2P, just a straight download.

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5779506)
Interesting. I've never really listened to these guys, which is strange because that's my kind of music. I'm going on Dream Theater marathon. Been listening to a lot of Bullet for my Valentine lately. I love the way they complement each other on guitar. Long live shredding.

I'm sorry.

beach tribe 05-20-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5779553)
I can link you to a .rar file of the album. No torrents or P2P, just a straight download.


I'm sorry.

For which part?

Reaper16 05-20-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5779906)
For which part?

Bullet for my Valentine.

DMAC 05-20-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5779461)
Could you be any more vague?

I mean, the obvious answer is that the album does not come out until June 23. Last album, I got a couple of songs early but they were not very good quality. And frankly, I don't know how I would go about getting the album now (if that is what you're suggesting). I don't do Limewire or Pirate Bay.

Talk to Reaper. Quality is fine. Buy it when it comes out. More vague? Possibly.

beach tribe 05-20-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5779944)
Bullet for my Valentine.

Those two dude's can shred. Kind of a younger feel than I like, but I respect the old style shredding they do.

beach tribe 05-20-2009 04:10 PM

Listening to DT now. Awesome.

beach tribe 05-20-2009 04:11 PM

What are the best older songs by DT?

Reaper16 05-20-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5780588)
What are the best older songs by DT?

I think Dream Theater's best albums, by far, are their first three w/ James LaBrie: Images and Words, A Change of Seasons, and Awake. Well, A Change of Seasons is an EP, but that song is awesome.

chagrin 05-21-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5778977)
Yeah, this is DT's best album since Scenes From a Memory. There are parts in each song that I dislike, and I really don't care for The Shattered Fortress because it has like two minutes of new material (the other 98% is recycled bits, I mean references, from the other songs in the AA cycle), but taken on the whole its a strong record. The Count of Tuscany, despite its terrible lyrics, is a sweet closing song. Wither is probably DT's best song in a long, long time.

I agree with most of this, except that I have to say that I like ROP the best, or even the count - to this point; but I'm not slamming your opinion at all. After that last work, which I really hate to say I didn't like that much, I needed to hear this from them - this is the best since Scenes, IMO as well :clap:

chagrin 05-21-2009 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5779461)
Could you be any more vague?

I mean, the obvious answer is that the album does not come out until June 23. Last album, I got a couple of songs early but they were not very good quality. And frankly, I don't know how I would go about getting the album now (if that is what you're suggesting). I don't do Limewire or Pirate Bay.

I think what he means is why not torrent it just to get a feel for it and then purchase it when it is released?

you can also find "Wither" and "Rite Of Passage" on youtube in fine quality if you don't want to hear the rest of it until it's released, it's awesome Lzen - you're going to love it!

chagrin 05-21-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5780588)
What are the best older songs by DT?

Anything off "Scenes From A Memory" but off that record, "Home, Scene Six" and dance Of Eternity, Scene Seven" but the whole thing is tits!

Train Of Thoguht, "Honor Thy Father" "This Dying Soul" "Stream Of Unconciousness (instrumental from hell)"

Octavarium - the whole fuggin thing

Images and Words, the whole fuggin thing

If you have been touched by any sort of Mental disorder, be it yourself or freind/family member - Six Degrees will move you deeply with the stories but the music is out of this world as well - their most "piano heavy" is that's fair to say, possible - Jordan's debut with the band

Awake - Lie - Space Dye Vest, and the rest of the album too, lol!


okay - all of them!

I wasn't a big fan of Systematic Chaos but all their live work is excellent as well, they ad lib a lot and do some outstanding instrumental medleys and stuff.

chagrin 05-21-2009 12:55 PM

I'd also add that on this latest work, the JP solo beginning about 10:00 in, is heart felt, emotional, technical and kick ass, until about 11:40 I think when it becomes a long dramatic repetitive piece; then again it's about the end of a parent's life, so I think he was making it to be theatrical kinda...whatever, great record!

Lzen 05-21-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin (Post 5783264)
I think what he means is why not torrent it just to get a feel for it and then purchase it when it is released?

you can also find "Wither" and "Rite Of Passage" on youtube in fine quality if you don't want to hear the rest of it until it's released, it's awesome Lzen - you're going to love it!

Ok, I will try it. I know I will love it. DT has never disappointed me. Unlike what you say about Systematic Chaos, I absofreakinlutely love that album.

Lzen 05-21-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5780805)
I think Dream Theater's best albums, by far, are their first three w/ James LaBrie: Images and Words, A Change of Seasons, and Awake. Well, A Change of Seasons is an EP, but that song is awesome.

So then I'm gonna guess that you really enjoy former keyboardist Kevin Moore's songwriting.

Lzen 05-21-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin (Post 5783290)
....Six Degrees .... - Jordan's debut with the band

Not to pick on you, bro, but you are wrong. Jordon Rudess's first studio album with DT was Scenes From A Memory. ;)

DMAC 05-21-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5784277)
Ok, I will try it. I know I will love it. DT has never disappointed me. Unlike what you say about Systematic Chaos, I absofreakinlutely love that album.

I love SC for In The presence of enemies 1 and 2.

Love those tracks.

Reaper16 05-21-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5784288)
So then I'm gonna guess that you really enjoy former keyboardist Kevin Moore's songwriting.

Yeah. For sure. I find Kevin Moore-era DT to be an infinitely better band than other iterations. Hell, I like Falling Into Infinity w/ Sherinian a lot more than Train of Thought, Six Degrees, Octavarium, etc. But I have a history of posts here displaying my general dislike for the band under Rudess.

Lzen 05-21-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5784479)
Yeah. For sure. I find Kevin Moore-era DT to be an infinitely better band than other iterations. Hell, I like Falling Into Infinity w/ Sherinian a lot more than Train of Thought, Six Degrees, Octavarium, etc. But I have a history of posts here displaying my general dislike for the band under Rudess.

See, I love Rudess. Sure, Moore was great. But I like Rudess just as much. And I like him more than Sherinian. In any case, they are just one part of the band. The main forces in the band have always been Petrucci and Portnoy.

Reaper16 05-21-2009 08:16 PM

I like Rudess, too, in isolation. He's obviously an incredible player. I just don't like the write & record song writing style that they have employed with him in the band. With Moore, the band would demo and demo and demo during the writing process, making sure their material was working. For the last several albums, they've gotten too loose during the recording process, and the songs are a lot sloppier (not in technical proficiency but in thightness of writing) than they used to be. I also don't like the Pantera & Metallica worship phase that Peh-truck-see went through for several albums.

Thankfully, for my tastes, that sloppiness is diminished on BC&SL.

Lzen 05-21-2009 08:41 PM

Ok Reaper, can you hook a brother up?

Reaper16 05-21-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5784920)
Ok Reaper, can you hook a brother up?

http://rapidshare.com/files/23485337...dillDTBCSL.rar

DMAC 05-21-2009 09:17 PM

:rockon:

Lzen 05-22-2009 09:37 AM

WOW!!!!

Just started listening to the album (thanks Reaper). A Nightmare to Remember is kick ass!

chagrin 05-22-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5784300)
Not to pick on you, bro, but you are wrong. Jordon Rudess's first studio album with DT was Scenes From A Memory. ;)

whoops, yep

chagrin 05-22-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5785607)
WOW!!!!

Just started listening to the album (thanks Reaper). A Nightmare to Remember is kick ass!

aww-right!!

RiversRunRed 05-22-2009 12:03 PM

idk i havent listend to dt much since i bought train of thought. They're amazing musicians, but the singer sometimes sounds really goofy. Although perhaps its just me.

RiversRunRed 05-22-2009 12:06 PM

Btw Reaper, your avatar is brilliant:rockon:

DMAC 05-22-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RiversRunRed (Post 5785903)
idk i havent listend to dt much since i bought train of thought. They're amazing musicians, but the singer sometimes sounds really goofy. Although perhaps its just me.

Amazingly enough, he tones it down for this one.

chagrin 05-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 5786310)
Amazingly enough, he tones it down for this one.

Over the last 3-4 works, he's found his groove and doesn't go overboard anymore. I think James has really settled in, SFAM, if not 6 degrees, certainly proved that.


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