F*****G Ticketmaster
 

So today my friend and I try to buy Tool tickets for the show at Nokia Theatre in Grand Prairie and it's the usual bs. My friend can't get in and then it took me 4 tries to get pit tickets. We needed 7 tickets but I could only cover 3 so my friend was going to grab the other 4. Luckily I got in when I did because at 10:07 the show was sold out (went on sale at 10) and then pit tickets were posted on stub hub for $542.

On top of all that there were an additional $17.25 in additional fees so an $80 ticket jumped to $97 and then there was another $5 service charge for the overall order. Goddamn 20% of face value fees and 17.7% of total purchase was fees. **** TICKETMASTER!

IIRC Didn't they get in trouble for exorbitant fees before?

lmao at tool always talking shit on the system, but bowing down to ticketmaster

So you have solution other than not going?

I remember when Pearl Jam cancelled the last half of a tour because ticketmaster was assraping their fans.

I had to buy one extra ticket for the Tech N9ne concert yesterday.

It said $20. Then there was an $8.95 fee + $3 Convenience Fee.

So I told my buddy I was buying it for that it was $32 instead of $20 like I told him, he said okay.

Then I go to checkout and they added another $5 for a service charge and charged me and extra $2.50 just to print the ticket!

So after all was said and done, the $20 Ticket cost me $40.

Thats such bullshit.

I agree that Ticketmaster's CEO is lord satan himself....

With that said, NEVER wait until the day tix go on sale.....Pre-sale my friend is the way to go...

Either:

A) Go to the band's website and sign-up for the fan club (that usually gets you a pre-sale code)

OR

B) I've used this website a couple times - well worth the extra 4 bucks to get good tix

http://www.presalecodes.com/index.ph...FQ6jagodknMdrQ

Yea, I usually go for the pre-sales too. You can google the name and find the password most times. This show didn't have any presale though. I get emails from all the local venues, ticketmaster, and another ticketing service and this show was announced this week and went on sale today.

learn to swim

I Hate Big Ticket

Convenience fee?? But that's not convenient for me at all....

Tool is touring again? I knew they were going to be at Lollapalooza in Chicago, but didn't know they were playing anywhere else.

My policy is to never use Ticketmaster. My little form of protest. Too bad I can't get more people to protest with me but as the great P.T. Barnum is rumored to have once said ...

"There's a sucker born every minute"

lol @ Palooza

They didn't say it was convenience fee for you...

Whew, and I was almost afraid that you would come up with something helpful. Okay, really, I wasn't, not even a little bit, but where is the fun in that. I was on the swim team, so I know how to swim, tyvm.

yeeeaaaaaaa i am going to say you missed the triple irony i was laying down

They're arent the first ones that have done this either. I think Korn did it once back in the day as well.

Think of it as a lack of caring :D

:) have a good weekend

The problem is that so many venues are locked into ticket master that there is almost no other way to get into a large venue. Of course they probably need to charge that much to pay off the venues to let them stay locked in.

You as well, lol.

Unfortunately you can't do that here. There are only a few venues that you can avoid ticketmaster on. One is the House of Blues and even with them you can't avoid it entirely. Some artists have contracts with Ticketmaster so you have to buy from them (you even get a fee if you walk up and buy them at the door on the day of the show). There's also a couple smaller venues that if you want to risk not being able to buy tickets at the door because of a sellout that will let you bypass ticketmaster.

There is another outfit here called frontgate tickets but they are just as bad as ticketmaster with their fees so all in all in Dallas Fort Worth you get ****ed either way.

I'll bet your boycott brings Ticketmaster to its knees.

I try to buy my tickets from the box office of the venue the show is at if at all possible. I've hated TicketRaper for a long time. What a F@$&%$ racket that place is.

Canada has it right:

An additional $250 million class action lawsuit has been filed on behalf of all persons in Canada who purchased tickets from Ticketmaster for an event anywhere in Canada (other than Ontario) and were charged a convenience fee, or additional service charges over and above the issued price of the ticket.

The initial $500 million class action lawsuit was filed on February 9, 2009 on behalf of all persons who purchased tickets for an event in Ontario via Ticketmaster or TicketsNow. This expansion of the lawsuit of February 9, 2009 alleges that any transaction for the purchase of tickets via Ticketmaster or Ticketmaster Canada is governed by the laws of the Province of Ontario; which laws preclude the selling of tickets at a price higher than at which they were first issued.

The second class action lawsuit was brought by a Plaintiff in Edmonton, Alberta. On November 21, 2008, the Plaintiff visited www.ticketmaster.ca to purchase one ticket to see David Byrne perform in Edmonton, Alberta on February 22, 2009; and on December 13, 2008, visited www.ticketmaster.ca to purchase four tickets to see Jay Leno perform on February 26, 2009 in Edmonton, Alberta.

In the case of the David Byrne ticket, the website listed the ticket's price as being $55.50. As the Plaintiff completed the purchase, he was also charged and paid a building/facility charge of $1.65, a convenience charge of $10.25, and a $4.35 order processing fee, resulting in an actual cost of $71.75 for the ticket. In the case of the tickets to Jay Leno's performance; the website listed the face price of each ticket as being $79.00. As the Plaintiff completed the purchase, he was also charged and paid a convenience charge of $5.00 per ticket and a $2.50 order processing charge, resulting in an actual cost of $338.50 for the four tickets, or $84.60 per ticket. The suit alleges that Ticketmaster Canada sold the Plaintiff five tickets at a price higher than that at which they were first issued.

Class members who are currently included in the first class action lawsuit may not participate in the class action lawsuit filed February 12, 2009.

From what i can find out about a tool concert series

18th July Mile High Music Festival, CO
19th July Energy Solutions Centre, Salt Lake City, UT
25th July Nokia Centre, Dallas, TX
1st August All Points West Festival, Jersey City, NJ
8th August Lollapalooza Festival, Grant Park, Chicago, IL

I pray everynight they come to KC or close ;)

They probably will. The Dallas show just sprang up out of no where.

Hope so, I'll be on the net checking periodically through the next weeks

I went to a Tool Concert back in 2006. It was in the Qualcomm Stadium Parking lot. There were so many people (it was standing only, no seats), probably about 20,000 or so.

As soon as they started playing, the whole crowd started moving. About 15 people were crushed and suffered pretty serious injuries. It was the craziest thing ever.

Maynard actually told the band to stop playing during The Pot because it was getting out of hand.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/f...1a13scene.html

Street Scene melee: 'It just happened'

Promoter, officials cite safety measures
By George Varga
UNION-TRIBUNE POP MUSIC CRITIC

August 13, 2006

'Look out for your brothers and sisters. No one has to die in rock 'n' roll.”

Those cautionary words at last weekend's Street Scene from Maynard James Keenan, the lead singer of Tool, were as sobering as any of the lyrics he subsequently intoned during his band's simultaneously galvanizing and chilling performance.

Few rock acts create music that can be as rousing and aggressive, or as thoughtful and intricate, often all at once.

Fortunately, no one did die during Tool's nine-song set, which began with “Stinkfist,” a song that includes such lines as Constant over-stimulation numbs me / But I would not want you any other way.

However, 14 fans were injured and hospitalized – three in life-threatening condition – in the wake of Tool's performance. More than 100 others were treated and released on site during and after Tool's performance, according to authorities.

“We have always been very pro-safety conscious at Street Scene. We spent a year planning this event,” said festival founder Rob Hagey, breaking his media silence for the first time since the event concluded early last Sunday morning.

“I know how hard we worked with Staff Pro (which provided on-site security). And we worked very diligently with Tool's security personnel and with the San Diego Police and Fire departments. It's because we had additional security at the event that we were able to be very pro-active in responding during Tool's set. Some of my key staff people were with me in front of the stage during Tool, working to solve the whole situation.”

Led by the charismatic Keenan, who declined an appointment to West Point in order to pursue a career in music, Tool performed in front of a loudly enthusiastic, multi-generational audience, whose size was estimated by authorities at between 15,000 and 18,000. A majority of the fans who sought medical assistance were treated for dehydration, heat exhaustion and minor injuries such as twisted ankles, authorities said.

City officials, who praised Street Scene's layout and security measures, described the surging crush of fans as “a freak accident.”

But there are few quick or easy answers about why Tool's headlining performance at Street Scene went wrong, or why the same band's performance in April at the Coachella festival in Indio created a comparatively less volatile crowd response.

In both instances, Tool performed nearly identical sets. In both instances, the four-man band headlined on a Saturday night. In both instances, excited fans pushed and shoved to get close, at least during the first few songs, before being calmed down by Keenan.

The excitement level was intensified by the fact Tool was returning to the concert stage after a hiatus from touring of several years. The band's music is a potent mix of punk-rock fury, heavy-metal thunder and prog-rock complexity.

Keenan's lyrics can be dark and disquieting one moment, barbed or surreal the next. His band eschews spotlights in favor of moody backlighting and eye-popping videos of otherworldly creatures, which are projected on large screens at the rear of the stage.

Because Tool was one of the few Street Scene acts whose performance was not shown on the video screens on the sides of the stage, authorities said Thursday they believe fans may have pushed forward from the rear of the venue to better see the band.

And the Tool crowd at Street Scene may have been larger than anticipated, said Police Capt. Bill Edwards, because of Saturday's last-minute cancellation by pop-punk favorites My Chemical Romance.

“Because the stage My Chemical Romance was scheduled to play on went dark early, a lot of people who might have been watching them came over to watch Tool instead, and it caused the crowd at Tool to surge,” Edwards said.

“Plus, people are in a much different state at the beginning of the event than they are at the end. I think we thought everything was in place. But you can't predict everything. And, obviously, there were some exacerbating circumstances that led to this unfortunate situation. It just happened.”

A key to calming down the Street Scene audience was Keenan, who was praised by Hagey and city officials who were on the scene. Most of the injuries, according to fire department officials, occurred near the beginning of the concert, when the crowd moved forward.

During his band's second number, an anthem-like song of defiance called “The Pot,” Keenan repeatedly implored the audience to chill out.

“Step back so you don't get trampled. It's just rock,” Keenan said. Later, he told the crowd: “If you all take a couple of steps back, we can keep playing. That's two feet (back), instead of somebody's life. . . . ”

City officials met Thursday to begin their “after-action” analysis. It will be several weeks before they issue any formal suggestions for tweaking next year's festival in the massive Qualcomm Stadium parking lot.

One likely suggestion, several said, is to implement the use of multiple stage barriers. Sometimes called “T-barriers” because of their shape, such barriers were used for Tool's performance at Coachella. They provide added protection for fans by separating them into different areas, which can help prevent the scary surge of people that occurred near the front of the stage during Tool's performance here.

Even without this “stacked” barrier approach, the overall consensus among officials is that last weekend's Street Scene was well-planned and executed.

“The people at Street Scene did everything we asked them to do,” said Garrett Pryor, the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department's fire prevention supervisor of special events. “And through many many years of experience in doing this, we thought we'd laid the event out to accommodate well over the number of people who attended.”

Inevitably, however, there will be changes to the plan, said Fire Marshall Sam Oates, who has helped oversee Street Scene since its inception in 1984.

“There's no question that all the entities involved will come up with some recommendations for next year that would prevent this from happening again.”

wtf? only 18,000?

rockfest last year had 50,000, was in an open lot, was swaying back and forth going apeshit when Stone Temple Pilots played, but no one got hurt. Weiland didn't stop the show, but told everyone to calm the F down after the 2nd song.

It was a music festival.

Snoop Dogg was on at the same time, and he had a crowd just as big on his side.

The problem was that the sides were gated in, so the crowd couldn't get closer but to the sides.

I swear that there were people lined up a half-mile deep, at least.

God now i really want tool to come back

Heh who's the tool now?

(sorry had to say it!)

I've pretty much sworn off concerts once they exceeded $100 for tickets before all the other fees. Even for the shitty seats.

It would be hard for me to pass up a tool concert reguardless of the price. I mean if they were 150.00 i would be pissed but i would prob still go since i know it would be amazing.

plus a few extra bucks for the "party accessories"

I'm in the pit and they were $80 which I felt was fair. The only acts I've seen that want north of $100 are major acts I wouldn't want to see (Beyonce although wifey wants to see her, Rolling Stones etc)

That's why going in groups is awesome. Everyone pitches in (and everyone gets wasted).

I bought a pair of lawn tickets for the NIN show here at the end of the month. They had a promo which made the tickets $15.32 but there were $28.40 in total fees to buy the damn things. Still ended up being very cheap but it's irritating when the fees are almost double the face value of the tickets.

This is news to me too. They only come out of hiding every 5 years or so. :nosmilie:

I bought 4 tickets to Stevie Wonder today for when he plays at Starlight in KC this summer, and each ticket had a $15 charge added to it. ****ing bullshit.

Bought ticket to Slayer, Marilyn Manson, Cannibal Corpse.. etc $45 with a 8.95 "convince" fee. I think 20% is a bit high buying through the net and them USPS mailing to me.

$542 for Tool??? What dumbfug would pay that???

Concert prices are insane!

Fug tickmaster-I blame the artist for using them.

;) exactly-you can see 10 up and coming bands-front row-hang out with them and have them sign your CD

I am seeing Offspring this friday-they kick 10 times the ass of Tool.

I agree Ticket Master is one of the biggest rip offs going right now. How in the fug are they not a monopoly. I avoid going to shows that the only way to get in is through the shafting of Ticket Master. Which leaves you sitting out of a bunch of venues.

The thing I don't get is why they charge you for the print at home tix, but they'll mail them to you for free. Does not compute.

We're going to a Flight of the Conchords concert tomorrow night, and the tix for that are $38 on the ticket, but cost close to $55 after all the damn fees.

The highest tickets were $80. The scalpers (scalping er sorry ticket brokering is legal for the most part in TX) flooded Ticketmaster's site which made it hard to get it (similar to the shit that was happening at the sprint center). The show was sold out in 7 minutes and no less than 3 minutes later the pit tickets were on stub hub for a high price of $542. Nokia Theater is a pretty big place and the fact it sold out in 7 minutes is ridiculous.

If someone wants to make some money and take it to ticketmaster just start a rival company..

Thats probably easier said than done. IIRC I heard that TM has long term exclusive deals in place for a Helluva lot of venues.

I saw Tool once in like 2002.

It was pretty kick-ass. But that's probably because they played a ton of shit from Aenima and Undertow. I wouldn't care to see them play anymore.

Use the fan club 4 days earlier. Yes it cost $20 dollars but I got the limit and go for free?

I am an ass but I go for free. Knowledge is king. I went to Lynerd Skynerd in Atlanta after paying $20 for "fan" club but made $400 and had 4th row tickets.

Knowledge is power, Otherwise it would be like Gaython teaching a sex class.

I am sure congress might help out.. They love getting into things they shouldn't..

Are you gay?

I'd rather listen to offspring as well.

Tool is so much more talented than Offspring.

so is yanni, your point?

Exactly, musical taste is so individually biased. I really like some of Tools songs, just I enjoy more Offspring songs.

This thread just turned reeruned. The Offspring are fun and all I guess, but Tool are one of the best rock bands of all time.

That does not make sense. You didn't like Lateralus or 10,000 Days?

uhhhh...

offspring is cool and all, but that pop-punk could never compare to the musical artistry that Tool creates.

A pair of $10 tickets to the preseason NHL game at the Sprint Center, and f***ing TicketMaster wanted $20 in fees. :cuss:

I'll just go to the box office tomorrow, but WTF? Guess I don't notice it as much when the tickets are already $50+. I don't really care about the TicketFast charge, even if it's crap, but a $12 convenience charge on $20 worth of tickets... and then $5.50 for processing?

I'd rather pay over face value with Stubhub than get fee'd to death. :banghead:

Those fees are horrendous but the one that really gets me is the fee for printing it yourself. Screw that and take the free standard mail delivery. I can't believe they charge you for them to NOT print the ticket and mail it.

I'm usually last minute about tickets since I travel so much and never know if I'll be some place even a few weeks down the road.... so while it is completely asinine and ass-backwards to not charge when mailing it, I bend over and take the "oh, you need it now" fee.

I bought Buckcherry tickets earlier today through Ticketmaster, and it ended up being $15 in fees for a $35 ticket, but I was just surprised it wasn't sold out and didn't mind paying $50 to see them..... I need to start using box offices though. Damn. :cuss:

FOCKING TELL ME ABOUT IT!

I bought $43 seats for DEVO and the total was $108.

:cuss:

Yeah! $5 extra for EMAILING you a PDF? WTF?!?!

We need Pearl Jam and they're protest now more than ever.

comparing TOOL to Offspring is like comparing a Porsche to a yugo, are you ****ing kidding me with this?
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Need to get netflix CEO to open his wallet and start up some competition..

Wow....

I guess it's good to have "connections".

:)

I'm staying home from the Tool show. That'll learn 'em.

TicketRaper is one of the biggest scams going. I try and by directly from the venue the show is at as often as possible.

Hell yeah! I am staying home too just to teach em a lesson.

That sucks. But at the end of the day ticketmaster knows that harcore music fans will pony up to go see their favorite bands and that's why they do what they do. What's even worse is I think Live Nation just merged with TM so expect to get overcharged even further.

Hard to believe a fan of Rush could make a statement like that, eh?

Whip it Good. :whip:

lmao at the emicon for whip it. I have been to a billion shows in my lifetime, but I am pretty tired of artists mailing it in. No local bands are going to mail it in, but I have seen enough of the large bands that I don't need to see them again. Get their dvd, buy good beer, put on some headphones and it is better and more enjoyable than sitting around "those guys" at a concert. those guys include the overly drunk guy, the I am going to kick everyones ass even if it is not a mosh pit, and the lost hippies. I also have to question most of the artists sound on stage, too canned most the time. If there are horns in a song I want someone on stage playing the ****ing horn.

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Samething happens with Phish. Ticketmaster partners with it's own ticket broker. How they are even able to do this or why the venues and the bands put up with it is reeruned. Phish started using musictoday and it's gotten much better. Ticket scalpers are parasites.

Go see Phish or Tray Anasatio Band(When he has the Horn Section) it's awesome.

phish? No thanks I can ride an elevator or listen to hold music anytime