Alice In Wonderland
 

Im no Tim Burton fan, but these early renderings look pretty damn cool.

i love the Dark Alice in Wonderland interpretations. Like the PC game for example. Hopefully this doesn't disappoint.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=56475

Isn't the original fairy tale fairly dark itself?

Man, that looks cool. Movies like this actually scare me more than actual horror movies. But does Helena Bonham Carter have to be in this? I think Kathy Bates would be perfect for the Queen of Hearts.

Of course...it's Burton and Depp.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/aliceusatoday1.jpg

Before reading the article, I scrolled down and initially thought that was Froto.

Frodo...not Froto.

I'm looking forward to this.

Anyone seen Pan's Labrynth?

Yep...it was a pretty good movie.

the name Tim Burton is all I need to hear to not go see a movie.

I'd have to agree with you, but this may be pretty cool.

whats wrong with burton? hes had a lot more great movies than bad ones

Like what? I liked Beetlejuice when I was little. Maybe the first Batman with Jack as the Joker. That's about all I can think of.

LOVE that movie.

basically everything hes done, except planet of the apes, was good. some better than others but i enjoyed all of them

Look him up on IMDB, and take a look at the list of shit festivals he's produced.

who gives a shit what hes produced. speilberg produced men in black 2 and mask of zorro. doesnt mean hes not a good director

Umm....Sweeney Todd....Sleepy Hollow.....

Speilberg is the most overrated director in Hollywood.

Sleepy Hollow was good. I will give you that one.

Edward Scissorhands
Nightmare Before Christmas

Batman, Batman Returns, Edward Scissorhands, Beetle Juice, Big Fish, and The Nightmare Before Christmas...

I love Tim Burton.. especially when paired with Danny Elfman

Batman Returns was piss.......

Hmmm... you maybe confusing it with one of the other batman movies that really are piss...
Batman Returns was not bad at all.

http://superherouniverse.com/wallpap...an-returns.jpg

I agree. And I'd throw in Mars Attacks. Hated it the first time I saw it. Now I love it.

(Those "Kill all Humans" games ripped that movie off, big time.)

Burton did Mars Attacks?

Yeah. Directed it.

Now it kinda strikes me as a Mel Brooks style comedy. Silly humor, tons of cameos...

Hilarious. Never knew that.

And agree on the Mel Brooks style.

That makes me like it more.

Amazing movie.

I like Burton's stuff. I couldn't think of anybody to re-re-re-re-imagine this story better.

is it really like a darker alice in wonderland

its on my netflix que, must rent now

Pan's Labyrinth was directed by Guillermo del Toro. Just want to make sure we're all aware... but it was a great take on the Alice in Wonderland theme.

Great time to mention The Devil's Backbone... great movie by the same director.

jesus. it's 'destroy all humans,' bran. shit, I'd neg rep you if I didn't think you were ok otherwise.

:shake:


('course, I'm likely one of a very few people who will admit to loveing the DAH series--even imported a copy from the UK so I could play 'path of the furon')

Batman Returns was the last good Batman movie until Batman Begins

I can't wait for the Burton version of Winnie the Pooh-where Pooh rips Piglets head off and skulls fugs him while bathing in his blood.

no way, the one with Arnold was da best! FREEEEZE!!!!

Doh! I knew that. I only played the first one, but I had a blast with it.

the second and third are great for what they are, running around and blowing shit up. the second one has a ****ing meteor gun, and the third one has a ****ing black hole gun. completely cheesy (and sorta difficult in spots), but great game series.

I don't know that I know Alice in Wonderland enough to tell you. But I do know it was dark and I do know that it kicks ass. So go see it.

I don't like Tim Burton at all

Yeah, I agree.

"Jaws" sucked. So did "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". And "E.T" was garbage.

"Raiders of the Lost Ark" was trash. Horrible direction and acting. "Schindler's List"? Gimme a break! Black & White in the 1990's?

And "Saving Private Ryan"? Crap. Utter crap. "Rat Patrol" was better than that drivel.

I can't believe you forgot Duel.

Is this what we might call...sarcasm? Cause it's really tough to tell in this post

:D

My b/f is making some of the props. Last I heard of was shackles with hearts on them. Guess there's going to be a pretty wicked dungeon scene.

Blech. I didn't care for Batman Returns. It was OK at best (IMO). Better than the crap put out by Joel Schumacher though.

I'm a Burton fan, but he really hasn't done anything good since before Sleepy Hollow. Man, he's picked some horrible scripts.

I'll see this one, just like I've seen all the others, hoping that he's finally righted the ship.

I actually liked Sweeney Todd.



















May I have my man card back, please?

I thought it was OK, but not up to snuff considering Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Batman and Ed Wood. Even his early stuff like Frankenweenie and Pee Wee's Big Adventure were solid directorial/script efforts.

Further proof of CoMoChief's genius.

I had no idea he did Frankenweenie. That's awesome.

Directed movies:

Good:
Beetlejuice,
Batman,
Edward Scissorhands,
Big Fish,

Bad:
Frakenweenie,
Pee Wee's big adventure,
Mars Attacks,
Planet of the Apes,
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,
Corpse Bride,
Sweeney Todd.

Average:
Batman Returns,
Ed Wood,
Sleepy Hollow.


He is hit or miss.. I tried enjoying Sweeney Todd but there was just something missing, no idea why it got any awards(Repo, a Genetic Opera I like for some reason though).. Corpse Bride was just a let down after Nightmare before Christmas for me..

I think Big Fish is his best work..

I personally think you're analysis is off base. Ed Wood is Burton's masterpiece, if you ask me.

Very good: Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, Pee Wee's Big Adventure

Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands are Burton's most critically acclaimed works to date, with landmark performances from Johnny Depp anchoring both films. And like the character or not (I don't), Pee Wee's Big Adventure has amassed an enormous cult following from a sublimely bizarre comedy that was masterfully crafted, especially for a feature film debut.

Good: Batman, Big Fish, Vincent, Frankenweenie

Mediocre: Mars Attacks, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sweeney Todd, Sleepy Hollow

Bad: Planet of the Apes, Corpse Bride

I'll agree he's kinda hit or miss, but most of his films hit that average to above average range. The problem, I think, is he was a shooting star for the first part of his career and fizzled from Sleepy Hollow, occasionally turning in just horrible efforts. I mean... WTF was he thinking with Planet of the Apes?

Ed WOod might be his best film. Criminally overlooked.

Those "Average" movies are very good, Pee Wees Big Adventure and Mars Attacks are hilarious. I never saw Frankenweenie or Sweeney Todd.

Im gonna go ahead and say i like the remake of Charlie better than the original. The original wasn't bad, I enjoyed it very much growing up, but Burtons was much more faithful to Roald Dahl.

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Same with Mars Attacks I think. Beautiful spoof of cheesy 50's sci-fi

Yea, that one has grown on me over the years. Didnt like it much when i first saw it back in 96. Love it now.


Heck, i like all his movies up to Sleepy Hollow. After that, hes turned into more of a director for hire and has been spotty.

Ah, I'd forgotten Charlie And The Chocolate Factory. That movie was bullshit. Incredibly stupid interpretation of the story.

bullshit on charlie and the chocolate factory. not only is the original an absolute classic, it's impossible to be more faithful to roald dahl when ROALD ****ING DAHL WROTE THE SCREENPLAY FOR THE ORIGINAL. yeah, the remake that goes completely off script is MUCH more faithful than the real genuine article.

:spock:

have you read the book?

yeah. when I was in middle school. and I maintain it's literally impossible to be more faithful to Roald Dahl than his own work on the screenplay.

Dahl wrote the original screenplay which was essentially completely rewritten by David Seltzer. After it's release, Dahl publicly disowned the film.

DISOWNED IT.

I call bullshit on your bullshit

I a just going to post this. Dahl was horrified by the original film.

That said, both films take some "liberties" with the book, and I'd have a hard time thinking Dahl would be happy with either.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=61

You don't know what you're talking about.

Well either way, the original film OWNS the Burton/Depp version. Depps take was annoying and i love Depp.


Nothing will ever top Gene Wilders take. Nothing. This is why you cant remake classics. You cant top perfection.

I'm actually not a fan of either movie. Not sure which I disliked more...

Tim Burton is pretty damn good...

Beetle Juice...rocked
Sleepy Hollow...kick ass
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory...pretty ****ing good

AT least the first one didn't spawn an entire fashion statement. I'm talking, of course, about Willy Wonka glasses. Also known as bug glasses.

I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

eh, screw it. I was pwned. that's what I get by going by the imdb site and 'screenplay by:' before the movie.

I'd never heard that, I also didn't know that Dahl was in any way involved with the first movie because it really wasn't like the books at all. I enjoyed the books and I enjoyed the first movie. The books were better but that almost always seems to be true. That being said: The second movie was absolute crap. It was like a runaway train made from spoiled cheese and dog shit that finally flew screaming off of a cliff into a pile of pus and snot. I hated it.

I don't know. "Do the Right Thing" and "The Passion of the Christ" were very good.
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Just waked through my lobby and saw a movie poster for "Alice". Johnny Depp as a scary-looking Mad Hatter. Release date early 2010 (March, I think?) and it's coming out in digital 3D as well as IMAX 3D (hence the poster in my lobby). Even though it's Disney, it should be pretty decent, since they let Burton do what he wanted pretty much with "Nightmare Before Christmas". And, unlike Willy Wonka, this story doesn't have a beloved 70s movie to compare to, so he can pretty much go nuts.

Johnny Depp is an ugly little girl.

If this is on Imax in 3-d, I might have to go old school and drop some acid...nah j/k. But I think this movie will be either really good or really bad, it just strikes me that way. And Tim Burton has about a 50/50 chance to make me feel my money is well spent, judging by how I felt about his previous work.

He also did


Batman... assume
Batman II.. not so assume.

I assume you mean awesome.

Thanks for the translation. I was sitting here staring at the word "assume" trying to figure out WTF he meant.

I assumed Batman II was awesome to everyone.

Course I was 13 but still...

trailer released for Alice in Wonderland i was sent this link a bit ago.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...ailer-released

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Dug this up looking for "Alice" stuff.

Holy shit, this looks terrible.

"What??? Johnny Depp is the Mad Hatter??!? Let's make him a main character!!"

FFS!! Is one strangely effeminate, top hat wearing weirdo not enough for Depp's resume? I swear to God, when I saw the poster I thought it was Bryce Dallas Howard playing the part. Ten years ago, Tim Burton would have killed this movie. This, however, looks like total horse-shit.

BTW, looking over the posts, I would like to go on record as saying that Batman Returns has the second worst Batman script I have seen. (After "& Robin." Seriously..... watch it again if you don't believe me.)