Jerry Porter
 

Why not? Don't really know the story with him but I would think he would be worth bringing in for a look and we don't exactly have a lot to offer in the WR dept.

liked him 4 or 5 years ago now
meh

I haven't gotten the impression that Jerry Porter has given a shit about football since about 2004.

I dont know what's worse.

Having WR's that play like they don't give a shit about playing football (KC's talent level at WR minus Bowe) or someone that really doesn't give a shit about playing football (Jerry Porter).

If you're going to take former Jaguar wide receiving disappointments, you're better off going with the coke-head. Jones might get suspended on you, but he'll catch a few passes first. He caught more passes last season than Porter has in the past 3 years combined.

We'd be better off with Plaxico Burress or Marvin Harrison IMO.

Good luck motivating that sack of shit. I've already wasted too much text responding on Jerry Porter.

this...and the fact that he's a low life douche.

Harrison is DONE.

The closest Burress will ever get to KC is Chicago.

My money's on the Jets.

he's a raider...

Quoted.
Well, bye.

I'd rather have Matt Jones or Marvin Harrison.
But it's hard to argue with bringing any WR's in.
It's not like we've got a lot in the cupboard.

Hey yeah. It will be like Sylvester Morris never got injured in the first place!

Smart man.

He means he's hit a wall and won't make much a contribution on the field.

Porter smells like Al Davis's nut sack.

I'm just gonna go with not.

how bout' no, you crazy dutch bastard.

the attitude of Randy Moss with the talent of Bobby Engram

We'd be better off by staying away from ALL OF THEM IMHO. Porter included.

Ya, I'm starting to feel the same way. Agreed.

THIS! ya THIS!!

EXACTLY!! Translation= ENEMY

Ya, ME TOO. NOT !! NO PORTER for me either.

Jerry Porter???

Gimme a break!

A big HELL NO for me, thank you.

What are some people thinking nowadays?

Not even before he got old would I consider thinking about throwing around the idea that we might be thinking about bringing in such a huge cancer to a team totally lacking a veteran lockerroom. He isnt even productive so I dont even see the point in discussing it.

Jerry Porter is a BROKE mans Plaxico Burress and even he is a big hell no!

I would trade a second rounder for Braylon Edwards (I know he has the dropsies, but Haley is a reciever genious and this would give us two young recievers for Cassel to grow with and build timing with as well.

or a second plus other considerations for Boldin

Or a first for Marshall and other considerations

Or just sign Marvin Harrison, as on his last legs can still be a dependable option for Cassel on third down when Bradley is hurt. The two could equal to a complete reciever, no?

I believe Engram will be valuable to this offense.
I think Bowe takes a step forward under the guidance of Todd Haley.
I hate depending on Bradley to stay healthy... And the other options just don't seem all that reliable (Webb, Darling). It'd be nice to have just 1 more guy...

He might be worth a look for the Chiefs. His flaws have been talked about already. Sometimes someone has to lose something to appreciate it. He left Oakland with the big head going to what he thought was a contender. He and the team fell flat on their face. He has found no interest and did nothing short of begging Oakland to take him back. If signed on the cheap he may rededicate himself minus ego and could maybe fill a need. If not they cut his ass and are no worse for the wear.

At this point we need to bring in any receiver we can for a look. All we have is Bowe and that isn't much.

I'd like to see Matt Jones get a look.

He's definitely the best option. He's only 27 and could give us a few years of service.

He's also pretty productive on the field.

Well, that too.

I'm just saying; if you're going bargain-hunting, why not pick a guy who still has some years left as well as being talented and in a bad enough spot to get him on the cheap?

I agree. He could easily give you 2-3 years service time.

Where would Porter rank amongest our WR's? A #4 WR?

Thank God I have a functional brain.

Of course you think the Chiefs receiving core would be better off without either Porter/Harrison/Burress. Your the one who praises Brodie Croyle, and thought he was awesome.

And I also imagine Mike Goff should be departed. Last I checked, he was a Charger :rolleyes:

Praise the lord above :D

Farzin, with all due respect,

Hmm...lets see here...

Burress...shot himself in the leg, ergo I'm just supposed to just start liking the fact that he will start the season suspended? Ya, great idea....:spock:

Porter was a freaking RAIDER, therefore as a CHIEFS FAN I say NO. You got a problem with that? I want NOTHING that Al Davis has EVER touched. NOTHING.
Oh and Harrison, hmm, I would be ok with him, if he wasn't at the end of his career, AND if we hadn't signed Engram already. Yet, your the only one with a functioning brain? Watch yourself.

And don't bring the freaking Chargers up. As much as I hate their sparkling asses, they still dont get as much hate as the RAIDERS. You of all people Farzin?
And the Chargers discarded Goff. DONT forget that.
And dont poke fun at me because I still support Brodie Croyle. You better watch out, because if by some slim chance this kid does what I think he is capable of doing, I will be RIGHT HERE ready to remind you when it's all said and done.

Dont mistake my apology for last year as an invitation to poke fun at me because I am fan of Croyle, and the Roll Tide. I read and process the same information as you Farzin, and I have been more than patient with your non homer responses. I will pounce on you like a fat kid on a cup cake if you give me just cause. Write that down while your at it.

I am a fan of football, and football players. Just because you decide to participate in the mass be heading of a player that failed last year, doesn't mean that I am going to BAAAAAAAAA like the rest of the sheep. ( ehem.........like YOU. )

There is a 0% chance that Brodie Croyle will ever amount to anything but a scout team/clipboard holding QB in the NFL.

Where will you be so we can poke fun at you for being wrong?

LMAO Better watch out Barry; Farzin interns for the Mighty PetroDouche at 810!

He might send PetroDouche to your house to bore you to death with endless discussions of Royals Baseball!!!!

But tell me; you wouldn't take a 30 year old Marcus Allen back? I'd drive LJ downtown and put his ass on the midnight train to Georgia for THAT trade.

RIGHT ****ING HERE. Just like I was last year. When he had a horrible line. And bad QB's coaching. And BAD play calling.

Brodie needs to toughen up, and if people would JUST READ MY POSTS, they would realize that even I realize, you gotta be tough to play in the NFL.

How many starts did Troy Aikman lose before he started to do well? Look that shit up, and get back to me.

What kind of chance to people really think Brodie got last year? You think that was fair?????

Whatever

FARZIN should know by now that I will speak my mind, and I will not be pushed around by a know it all. That goes for Whitlock, Babb, and anyone ELSE that wants to challenge what I am trying to accomplish.


By the way, That's unity in CHIEFSNATION. Not Division. I am not selling certainty like he, and everyone else THINK they are.

I'm in the corner over here, with doubt. And Doubt says they ARE ALL WRONG this year, and even though they may have the odds, they better be hoping and PRAYING that I AM WRONG. Because If I'm right,.......Im just saying.

Toughness isn't his problem.

His body and frame will never withstand the pounding. Period. Hell, one could make the case that he's far tougher than the average player to even try to play realizing this. The kid isn't stupid.

Please don't mention his name again in the context of being a viable candidate to play QB in the NFL. I'm a more likely option.

I DID NOT mention his name. Farzin did. I defended myself. This Friday, when I speak with Mark McMillian ( who also is an ex player for Bama ) on his radio show, I'm sure he will bring Croyle up. Feel free to listen in. His show is in Phoenix, AZ.

His body frame has been the question. I have never denied that. This is why I am interested to see what kind of camp he puts together, Again, another case of someone NOT reading my posts.

Dude, crack is BAD.

Go see someone for help.

How many consecutive games did Troy Aikman play in without getting hurt. I'll guarantee it was a hell of a lot more than the 6 Brodie has. Was Brodie's line awful in high school? He was injury prone then as well.

You really want to blame his line why he was hurt. You can't "toughen up" when you're a fragile player. It's not like he's sitting out with hangnails. He is tearing ligaments, straining his shoulder, etc...

Yeah, our coaching staff sucked, but he was given a fair shake. He was basically handed a starting job and couldn't make it out of the first half of the first game.

Croyle was able to get out of the last 3 preseasons. Playing in real games has been the problem. I fail to understand how camp is going to show you anything about Croyle's ability to take hits and get back up.

Croyle has no chance to be a contributer to this team. None. I'm sorry it's difficult for you to see.

What would be great is if we cut Croyle to add someone like Jerry Porter.

Croyle to Porter=SB!111111111

Elvis to Hendrix FTW!!!!

Saying any qb on our roster right now has a 0% chance.... is just dumb.

For all we know, our streak of signicant personel losses on opening day might continue losing Cassel for significant time, Thigpen underperforms and Croyle is given another shot and goes injury free for five years, as Trent did after suffering injury after injury elewhere. Not saying I am wishig that,Im not, but it isnt out of the realm of "Chiefdom" either.

Barry just sees it as he wants to and that is by ignoring anything negative about the team. He will get better and his opinion will be taken better once he accepts negative views asxwell as positive ones and forms a unique opinion from the most personally convincing of both. Or maybe he is genuinly happy being a homer and that is his way of enjoying his role as a fan.

I supported Croyle too. Not to the extent he does/did, but I did support him. I have wanted a QB we drafted to succeed since I was two! Looks like I will still be wanting.

My brothers son, 3 year old Troy, met Brodie at camp and got his auto on ffn and evertime the Chiefs are on offense he stares at the screen pumping his fist shouting "go Brodie, go Brodie!" or "good job Brodie" and runs around the room asking people if they saw Brodie.

I havent had the heart to tell the little guy that the guy playing for the Chiefs isnt Brodie anymore...

Croyle could turn out like Trent Green, injury after injury till he lands in the right situation and then goes on a good run of a few productive and healthy years.

Time will tell.

Personally, I think he will play in a regular season game again, for another team in a couple years, but will get hurt on the first real hit again.

too bad...

Don't get me wrong. I liked Croyle. He was the first real shot I thought we had at getting a stud save past their prime/wrong situation (see montana/gan_non). The problem, imo, is croyles bones aren't bones they are toothpicks.

Brodie has had four or five chances man, dont you see that?

You shouldnt compare, even vaguely, underachievers with overachievers. Its bad business.

He has missed more time to injury in three years than he has been available for...well almost.

Troy Aikmen won a superbowl with a team that was total crap when he was drafted and he did so in his third yesr iirc.

Its not just that he isnt very tough (I can remember the turtle tuck a few times) its that he doesnt have a body that can withstand NFL hits. Even when healthy, he didnt have good touch. He threw a swing pass as hard as a deep ball often. He really did. I like him but I can say that cause its the truth.

Croyles only chance is to go to a team with a very good offensive line***coughcough**Denver**coughcough and never get touched and have weapons at his disposal as well as a good runing game or a similar team.

He should just focus on learning an offense completely from the sideline for a couple more years and lift alot of weights and run alot to strengthen his ligaments. He will learn alot from Cassel if he makes the team.

He definatly has a massive up hill battle ahead.

a man built of glass if there ever was one.

Injured the only two times he was sacked iirc

I don't think there's any hope for him here. It's 1-2 cassell-thigpen and I don't think that'll help the chem any if he's 3.

Too many excuses for Croyle. Thigpen had the same level of talent, same o-line, same receivers (plus Bradley, but it's not much of a difference.) Thigpen still went out there and found some success while Croyle spent his season meeting with his trainer.

As far as Plax, he's not suspended YET. Yes Harrison is old and Porter is a Raider. Big deal. Look at Marcus Allen. If any of those three are available for the 2009 season, why pass up on that opportunity? I think the Chiefs will improve by a couple games (it's hard to not improve from a 2 win record) but the Chiefs need help with their receivers.

On a final note Barry, I respect all opinions as long as they are not biased. How old are you? Twice my age? I've accomplished quite a lot in my life in broadcasting before graduating high school. I've worked hard to get to where I'm at now :). Your twice my age and you called me put sending me the dumbest email ever telling me the Chiefs will shock the world and you went crying to everyone on the WPI boards complaining that Brian Baldinger didn't have many positive thoughts on KC heading into the 08 season. I don't have a problem with die hard fans. I'm one myself, but at the same time, I like to be a realist :)

There you go again, putting words into my mouth. PLUS apparently you haven't gotten over the whiplash from last year, ...sigh.....and Im not talking about Croyle anymore. Well talk about him in camp.

Im 36 years old Farzin. If that makes me twice your age, than you would be 18 years old. I doubt you are that young, and where did my age become the argument? Or Where was your schooling, and hard work ever an issue?

That wasn't the dumbest email you ever got, and I officially made my apologies about it. I had a bad week that week last year, and I was TIRED OF LISTENING TO SO CALLED CHIEF FANS TALK SHIT ABOUT THEIR OWN TEAM, WHICH YOU HAVE A VEY BAD HABIT OF DOING!! Maybe ask some of your followers on that one. I'm not alone. You constantly do it. Such a Know it all like the rest of us. You are NO LESS GUILTY.

And by the way, THE CHIEFS CAME TWO YARDS, 4 plays, and multiple dropped passes by Dwayne Bowe, FROM SHOCKING THE WORLD in FoXboro last season in week one. WATCH THE TAPE. Remember that FArzin, because I was THAT CLOSE to being right about that football game. AND THAT FOOTBALL GAME was what I was talking about in the email I sent to you last year. They almost did it. With Herm, and Brodie for the first part of the game.

My fundamental problem with your podcast last year, and BALDINGER, was that HE IS NOT AN EXPERT ON CHIEFS AFFAIRS. You Know it, and so does everyone else. I dont care what he was right about last year.

PLAX WILL be suspended. Even YOU have to know that? Cmon? Your calling me brainless and asking for a player that shoots himself in the leg? Sounds like a great leader in the locker room too. :banghead:


How do address this nonsense??....

As far as Plax, he's not suspended YET. Yes Harrison is old and Porter is a Raider. Big deal. Look at Marcus Allen. If any of those three are available for the 2009 season, why pass up on that opportunity? I think the Chiefs will improve by a couple games (it's hard to not improve from a 2 win record) but the Chiefs need help with their receivers.

OMG...what do I even say.....

First, Marcus Allen is the only EX Raider I have ever liked. I'm not alone, so BAD EXAMPLE. YOU are MISSING THE POINT Mr. EXPERT.

We have plenty of receivers right now. PLENTY. A small FLAT BED of them to duke it out in camp. ( which I will be at for a week, so if you care to discuss this in length, feel free to come hang out with the cool guys )

As far as your comment about how the CHIEFS will only improve by a couple of games, and they need receivers is just like I said.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAA SHEEP BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I will join NO SUCH FLOCK of copycats.

FARZIN, for the last time, JUST LIKE I WAS SAYING LAST YEAR....

THIS.......is your team. Why not try and pump CHIEF fans up instead of DEFLATING them all the time. ( which you do SO WELL )

I have worked hard too, to get people to understand what it is that I do with BarrysKOOLAID. You are yet another example, of readers that completely misunderstand me. When my podcast starts, I will HOLD NOTHING back. Write that down. Think twice before you set fire to a sleeping giant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVOfnhTIac

Crack huh? Dude, it's called KOOLAID and Im not forcing you to drink any ok?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVOfnhTIac

Oh ya,.....your welcome.

That's what happens when your team sucks for years on end.

Exactly, which is why I started serving the Koolaid in the first place. Chiefsnation had their heads down. I make no apologies for what I do.

You are already a WINNER for being a CHIEFS fan.

It's a professional sports team. It has no effect whatever on my life if they win or lose.

Almost doesn't cut it. Plus, I don't know what Brodie did in that game. Huard was the one that got us in the endzone.

Did I not answer this? Because I'm a realist. It's hard to not "DEFALTE" this team when they've only won six games in the past two years. If I have a positive or negative opinion, I'll say it and back it up with reasons. I'm not saying I'm always right. No one is, but I'll always have my reasons and back them up for whatever I say. Recently I've been a bit excited for KC mainly because of the way this division is shaped.

Good. That's a start. You should be, and this team is better than everyone thinks. All I'm saying, is that Chief fans want to talk about how they can win. Not how they can lose. Plenty of writers of VERY guilty, and I dont hold you in common with them. I just call shenanigans when I see them. Im sorry.

And HUARD was AWFUL in that game..?????

No, they didn't get in the endzone.The lost by ONE SCORE... Devard Darling got ran down on the two yard line. And if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that Brodie was a having a great game before he went down ( FOR THE THIRD TIME in that game ) He took a beating, yet still had pretty good numbers. ( which would have been better, if DBowe hadn't dropped 3 critical passes, one that was a touch ) Especially considering that kindergarden playbook they were running.

They still lost. I honestly hate to review a game that occured nearly a year ago, but for just for the heck of it, I'll just point this out since your telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about..

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Huard 8/12 118 1 1
B. Croyle 11/19 88 0 0


Huard had less snaps and less playing time, yet he got this team to the endzone and in the redzone for an opportunity. He also had more yards. He threw a pretty bad interception. Other than that, he got the Chiefs a touchdown and got them to the redzone on the final drive while Croyle only helped the Chiefs get a field goal.

I agree dude. I dont' wanna sound like bundle of sticks or nothin but I think CHiefs are gonna ****in win it all this year WOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Got to be a dupe, that or gochiefs will soon have another writer to compete with at WPI

WATCH the whole game. Don't look up stats. Croyle has three dropped passes by Bowe, he was having a good game. He was doing just fine. HUARD's stats would have been HORRIBLE if it had not been for that last miracle throw he made to Darling. Without that Catch, Huard is H O R R I B L E. You know it.

Listen to Dierdorf in that game. Listen to him speak VERY HIGHLY of Brodie Croyle.

Bowe DID suck a butt in that game.

When it comes to QB play, Dan Dierdorf is THE authority.

Accept no substitutes.

I didn't say that. ALL I said, is that it was apparent to EVEN THE BROADCASTERS in that game, that Brodie was playing just fine.

Huard, was a joke.

Understatement of the decade.

And piss on Herm.

HAHAHA!! You beat me to it.

Either way, Barry, Croyle got zero touchdowns. I'll gladly take Huard over Croyle. At least he's active and throws touchdowns.


Huard may be horrible, but at least he beat the Donks.

Oooooohhhh...Sankyou!

they both suck. dont waste time arguing about either one

Agreed, can any debate be more useless and irrelevant than Croyle vs. Huard?

I fixed your post.

I didnt bring up Croyle, or Huard.

THIS!!!

He threw a TD. Despite still sucking..he had won .. Something Brodie won't get for a while lol

WPI was reporting a couple years ago from training camp that Croyle was outplaying Huard without a doubt and there would be no way he wouldn't start the regular season. Huard was the starter come game 1. Now that is some good inside info.

Now to Porter he is decent when he wants to play but he hasn't shown much in a couple years. He would be okay on a min contract that a team could get out from under.

:spock:

Croyle started against New England and Huard replaced him due to injury.

EDIT: I noticed you said a couple years ago, not last year. My sincerest apologies.