My problem.
 

I'll keep you in mind. Now get out there and beat this shit.

Gotcha.....DONE AND SENT!!!

Then man the fuck up and don't drink anymore. We all fight some sort of addictions. Mine is/was chewing tobacco. I could literally eat that shit, I love it so much. You have to really want to stop or it won't work.

If your addiction is so serious you think you could die, then quit being a pussy and do the right thing. rant over

It is for your own good.

Thanks.

Stop it. You have the will to do it. You have the will. Anyone does.

If you're so bad that it's a life threatening situation you should be in a treatment facility.

Everybody relapses, Mr. Simply Red. It's just part of the process.

I'm curious ... are you going to meetings?

FAX

no sir.

I had a great uncle who drank himself to death and left a family behind. My mom remembers going to their house and watching him shake on the couch. Uncle Eddy didn't have the options we are fortunate to have today. There are support groups of all kinds, books of all kinds, and other outlets that do a lot of good for people who want to beat it.

Yes, Simply Red, you are in my thoughts and I will pray for you. An addiction like this is a great test of the Cardinal Virtues. It takes wisdom to seek help, courage to fight, and temperance, a fight against the desires, to overcome. I pray the Virtues never fade far from your sight.

Have you ever?

FAX

Check your pm inbox SR...

It isn't about "will", Mr. Fritz88. "Will" has nothing to do with it.

FAX

I don't really have any advice for you, but I will keep you in my thoughts.

I know little about this kind of stuff, but if it's serious enough to kill you, what other motivation for change do you need? Move this up to Priority #1, and good luck.

Answer my question, please.

Have you ever gone to meetings?

FAX

People drink themselves to death every day, Mr. Rain Man.

FAX

I'm assuming no, Mr. Fax.
SR, perhaps this isn't a bad idea. You can catch a meeting any day of the week. Just call and go. (Please don't drive if you have been drinking)

You are appreciated around here man. Even though we never see each other we are a community, or a family of sorts and we try to be there for one another.

Here you go, SR: St. Martin of Tours.

One step at a time. Don't let the big picture scare you. One step at a time. Start off by finding a meeting. You are not alone, there are millions of people out there that have gone through and are going through the same thing. You can't do this on your own, that's not abnormal. Get help and don't beat yourself up because you need help.

SR...

AA Meetings don't work every time. The person really has to be ready to call it quits. People who are court ordered don't do very well. But I know they would help you because you are ready.

All you have to do is get in the door and your attitude will improve.
Why?
Because you had the ****ing balls to take that first step.

It's a nasty disease. I have helped two people whom I cared for who suffered from it. Both of these guys were killing themselves, their families, and their careers. Nothing to be embarrassed about, though. In fact, one of those guys is someone every Planeteer has heard of. I would wager that 90% of the posters on this board have at least one of his records. So, I can tell you that it's a disease that can affect anyone. No respecter of income, status, or fame. It's a disease, though. Nothing more. So it's treatable.

So ... here's the deal. You need to start going to meetings. You need to do 90 meetings in 90 days. Look up AA in the yellow pages or on the net. Call the main number in your city. They will tell you where the nearest meeting is. If you can't find a meeting, tell me what city you're in and I'll find one for you. I'll find several, so you can select the one closest to you.

There is only one treatment for this, Mr. Simply Red. Only one. 1. Self-diagnosis and self-help isn't it. Get your ass to a meeting and do it today. It's a small step. Just replace doing the laundry or playing video games or watching an hour of television with a meeting. That's all there is to it. Let me know after you've gone and tell me what you thought about it.

FAX

ROFL

Quite a number, Mr. Simply Red. I've been in the music business, after all. Check out my post above.

I'm quite serious, by the way. There's only one way to deal with it. Only one.

FAX

it's tough to have it all you have stress jobs busy schedules and a drinking problem, to really quit you have to put sobriety #1

Everybody goes through the shame. Everybody. It's natural.

It's beneficial, though. Because, after awhile, you get so ashamed and pissed off that, if you're smart, you finally wind up going to meetings. Meetings be good.

FAX

I do. His last drunkin night was with me. We were at work late at night finishing a huge project. He was the editor and I was his post super. We had been working hard on this. We had a bottle of vodka in the freezer waiting for us. When we were done we opened the bottle to toast our success. We ended up finishing the bottle that night and were both smashed. We both had a drinking problem. Neither of us could stop at just one drink. One drink leads to another and then another until we're drunk. If you can't get drunk, what's the point of drinking, right? Anyway, the next day he went to an AA meeting. He thought it was BS in the beginning, but then something kicked in. He hasn't had a drink since then. I am jealous of him. I still have a problem and am a functional alchoholic (at least in my mind I'm functional) He, on the otherhand has taken control of his problem. Go to a meeting, that needs to be your first step. Forget about everything else and just go. Like I said, one step at a time.

This is true. Meetings aren't magic rituals. They don't work if the person isn't ready - as is the case when you're forced to go by the courts. But they don't work at all, Mr. Gonzo, if you don't go to them.

Meetings are the only way to treat this problem. Nothing else works. AA is an inspired program, in many ways. Guys will try and gut it out and, even if they quit, they eventually get very bitter about life.

Meetings be good.

FAX

Mr. Simply Red ... you'll meet some very cool people at meetings. Doctors, lawyers, hot chicks, bums ... everybody and anybody.

I've gone with friends to dozens and dozens of meetings. I like them. People being real. Where in the fuck do you ever see that?

Get your ass to a meeting. Then, do 90 meetings in 90 days. It's really that simple.

FAX

Exactly the point. I think SR is more than ready. I hope he takes your advice sir...

read through tons and tons of drug sobriety websites, the people who manage themselves, think it isn't bad, do it on their own, always relapse and hurt themselves or others.

90 meetings in 90 days, yikes! Start with 1 meeting and then 2 and then 3. 90 meetings in 90 days seems unatainable. Which may keep people from trying at all.

Hang in there and get yourself to an AA meeting bud.

JMO, start off with 1 and grow from there.

alcoholism runs in my family. had a great-grandfather die of cirrhosis of the liver at 32 years old. my dad is still an alcoholic, albeit functional. I very VERY rarely drink, and then, never to excess. my sister has a pretty bad alchol problem.

good thoughts and positive mojo headed your way, sr.

Mr. Simply Red is a big boy. He needs to do 90 in 90 and he needs to know that up front, Mr. bogey.

FAX

It's always a shame society yucks it up about being wasted then you got the way the few who know the truth. Ruins everyones lives, one screw up can cost you you or someone elses lives, but everyone exept the people who are honest ha ha ha it up "i was so wasted" The fact you post it on a BB and you know you relapsed and have a problem is good atleast. Most people just drive themselves in the ground (ususally 6 feet) you always get the random advice from people who aren't "there" never been entrenched in that shit. Gotta listen to workers in the programs

If you insist, i'll do it. I'll do it.

My thoughts are with you SR. You are young enough and smart enough to beat this and I trust you will because you did it before.

I have faith in u SR... I know u can win this battle!

1 or 2 a day for the first 90 days. Just like sex.

Please report back after you go. That's important. Also, remember that there are all kinds of meetings. By that I mean that different meeting locations and/or meeting times attract different types of people.

You may or may not truly like your first meeting ... if not, it will be because of the people. If that turns out to be the case, we need to find a different day/time for your second one.

Eventually, you'll find a meeting that you like. In fact, you'll find yourself looking forward to going. A lot.

FAX

there is a part of you Demon that still wants to quit, i know there is. Never force you to, obviously, I can't. But, let me know if you want to join me. Are you doing okay with it? (if i may ask)

On an easy and practical level, there is an "ignore thread" feature here that would allow you to get rid of drinking threads from your sight, SR.

If you are serious, check yourself in someplace. If you aren't serious, then I guess keep trying what hasn't worked. Only you will determine what will happen in the future or if you will have one.

It's not on me, Mr. Simply Red. It's all on you. If I were there, I'd drive you to them, but I can't. What I can do is give you the very best advice you'll get anywhere from anyone and that's what I'm doing.

If you're sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, you'll go. If not ... ???

Honestly, that's pretty much what it boils down to. You have the disease. That's a fact. It's nothing to be ashamed of ... hell, there are some very cool people with that disease. Very cool people. But it does mean that, eventually, you'll wind up with only a limited number of choices in your life and they're all bad. Meetings can prevent that from happening.

FAX

My nightly bloodlust is spilling over in to my days.

Everyone has problems. Some more serious than others and some just haven't come to terms that they have a problem.

Good luck!

Listen to Mr Fax he speaks the truth.

I'm not trying to sound heartless here, as I have a tendency to be insensitive to this sort of thing, but....

Why do you keep looking here for help? The only one who can help you is yourself. Quit posting about it over and over and man up and do it for yourself. My family has a long history of substance abuse(including myself), and many of them reach out like this every time they have a relapse. But the thing I've discovered, is that most of them don't actually want to quit doing what they're abusing, they simply want the attention that comes with confessing their evil addictions every few months. And this process continues over and over until they either decide for themselves that they really want to quit, or they submit to the addiction and let it ruin their lives. The prayers and "good luck"s are great and all, but you live your own life and make your own decisions. You know what you need to do. At this point, encouragement is only going to get you so far. Either quit crying wolf, or get serious and do it.

You have the power in you to face this and conquer it once and for all. And that power doesn't originate from friends or family, it's internal. Loved ones can only gently nudge you in the right direction, you have to do the serious work and get there yourself. You have support. You have friends that really care about you. And they will continue to care about you and support you no matter what. You have reasons to fight and win. The only step left is convincing yourself that you can do it. Until you do that, it's only a matter of time until the next relapse.

Best of luck bud. Again, I really don't mean to sound heartless. Just do it.

I won't disagree. Good luck SR (I still say one day at a time) and good for you FAX in lending some great advice.

Good.

Have you made the call yet? If you haven't, it's AA. They're in the book. Call the number and speak with the person on the line. They will tell you the nearest, earliest meeting. Do me a favor and don't post again until you can tell me when and where the closest meeting is.

FAX

check your pm's sr...it can work. i've seen it.
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Good Vibes headed your way SR.

I agree with most in here about AA meetings. I've known a few people who went to AA meetings and they really helped them out.

Good Luck man.

Hey SR hang in there. Take the advice of FAX. I have had a few patients that were in need of help. They went to AA and I actually got invited on one gals "sober for 2 years" thingy. I am guessing it isn't going to be easy man. You know what though, the right way to do anything is almost always the most difficult. That pretty much goes for anything in life. Good luck!

i quit drinking about april 15th of 2008. It's a bitch but only one person can do it and that's you. **** the meetings and bullshit feelings they'll pass just like anyother emotion. At the end of the day it's you and your choice on one else's. So drink yourself to death or put that ****ing bottle in the trash. They won't be a good or bad day to quit just today and the choices we make. When you want to you will one way or the other

Ironically, Mr. Simply Red has actually been going about this the hard way, Mr. tooge. Trying to quit drinking by yourself - without the support of a program is really, really difficult. Almost impossible. So, the desire is there.

If he does the 90 in 90, his life will improve in so many ways that he'll be astonished. He'll look back and kick himself for not doing it sooner, probably. And the entire process will be a lot easier than the method he's been using.

FAX

I don't know, Mr. skky man. In my experience, guys who try and beat the disease without a 12 step program tend to wind up bitter about life.

FAX

I'm just chiming in to say I'm here for you, SR. You're in my prayers, bud.

Seems like most were bitter before about something then usually about how they've let there lives go to bottom of the barrell. I think the 12-step program serves it's purpose but it still comes down to a choice. I'm not trying to knock programs I've been through one when I was younger. Whatever works for those who want to is great. Like anything in life the only power something has is what we give it. We just have to make a choice as to what that is.

i think the people who go without the help feel like something was taken away from them, where as people who do go to the feel like something has been given to them

If necessary, you need to rearrange your schedule, Mr. Simply Red.

The fact is that there are meetings going on all the time. All over the damn place. Since AA is "anonymous", you'll be surprised to learn how many people are involved. From all walks of life. This means, obviously, that there are meetings to accommodate any possible schedule.

You're not arranging for a haircut. Get your ass to a meeting.

FAX

Couldn't have said it better.

FAX

Go get yourself into a program bro. NOW!!! Check in if you have to. Your life depends on it. Positive thoughts and prayers headed your way!!! Peace...

I've watched a lot of people go through this. Some join AA or check themselves into programs or both, some try do do it themselves. Among the people who seek help, some succeed, some fail and almost all relapse at some point.

Among people who don't seek help I have seen them all fail. Every one. So get yourself some help. Please.

Prayers and best wishes for you, SR.