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Old Dog 08-07-2009 06:37 AM

Anyone have access to ESPN Insider and care to share??
 
I saw this this morning and it has me really curious:

NFL Rumors: Vick to possibly back up Cassel
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors

the Talking Can 08-07-2009 06:39 AM

he's going to be a valet at arrowhead for the players...

ChiefJustice 08-07-2009 06:41 AM

I see only good things coming from this thread.

Saulbadguy 08-07-2009 06:44 AM

Don't ask me why I have an Insider account, or how. I think I got it as a present years ago and it keeps renewing, apparently. I keep getting the crappy ESPN magazine, too.

FREE AGENCY: Two jump in for Vick?
Michael Vick | Falcons | Interested: Packers? Patriots? Ravens?
The Titans, Ravens and Chiefs might be the only teams interested in signing Michael Vick. That's what ESPN's John Clayton said on ESPN Radio's Brock and Salk when pressed about NFL teams' interest in the troubled quarterback.

There was no mention of the Packers or Patriots, which is contrary to prior reports. The Packers have had "legitimate discussions" of signing Michael Vick, sources told the Wisconsin State Journal. But GM Ted Thompson hardly made it seem like they were this interested when he said he was open to the possibility.

Also, Patriots coach Bill Belichick said he'd be open to the possibility of bringing in Vick, although Pats owner Robert Kraft said he has no interest.

arrowheadnation 08-07-2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefJustice (Post 5955010)
I see only good things coming from this thread.

LOL...they were talking about this on the Channel 12 Morning News in Wichita this morning.

Otter 08-07-2009 06:52 AM

No way Vick ever enters Arrowhead as a Chiefs under Pioli.

I'll take bets if anyone is up.

Old Dog 08-07-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 5955012)
Don't ask me why I have an Insider account, or how. I think I got it as a present years ago and it keeps renewing, apparently. I keep getting the crappy ESPN magazine, too.

FREE AGENCY: Two jump in for Vick?
Michael Vick | Falcons | Interested: Packers? Patriots? Ravens?
The Titans, Ravens and Chiefs might be the only teams interested in signing Michael Vick. That's what ESPN's John Clayton said on ESPN Radio's Brock and Salk when pressed about NFL teams' interest in the troubled quarterback.

There was no mention of the Packers or Patriots, which is contrary to prior reports. The Packers have had "legitimate discussions" of signing Michael Vick, sources told the Wisconsin State Journal. But GM Ted Thompson hardly made it seem like they were this interested when he said he was open to the possibility.

Also, Patriots coach Bill Belichick said he'd be open to the possibility of bringing in Vick, although Pats owner Robert Kraft said he has no interest.

Thank You

Was just wondering

LaChapelle 08-07-2009 06:54 AM

If Thigpen comes in they have to change the offense because playing from under center is not his strong suit. Croyle is good for 2 games if your lucky, before he gets snapped in half. They need to find a back up they don't have to make excuses for in order to keep. Vick isn't much worse than what they have. It's all kinda, blah

wild1 08-07-2009 07:05 AM

So basically, it's naked speculation with no basis in reality.

I saw ESPN was running their Vick worship coverage, and they had a graphic with a list of teams that had not yet said publicly they had no interest in Vick. Probably just had a story due this morning and speculated because they don't know who our backups are.

Ultra Peanut 08-07-2009 07:19 AM

hahahahahaha yes, please

kstater 08-07-2009 07:19 AM

Essentially Clayton hasn't got a confirmation from the Chiefs Brass that they won't sign him, therefore they might be interested.

Ultra Peanut 08-07-2009 07:21 AM

Actually, speaking of "hahahahaha," shouldn't Denver just take the ****in' chance?

CoMoChief 08-07-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5955017)
No way Vick ever enters Arrowhead as a Chiefs under Pioli.

I'll take bets if anyone is up.

No way?!?!?! I wouldn't go that far.

Highly unlikely is probably more like it. Vick would be a much better backup than Croyle/Thigpen/Guiterrez (**** i can't spell his name)

Mr. Arrowhead 08-07-2009 07:24 AM

He will be the team official dog sitter

Fritz88 08-07-2009 07:29 AM

I am all for TT as a backup but I'll gladly ditch him for Vick.

wild1 08-07-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5955054)
Actually, speaking of "hahahahaha," shouldn't Denver just take the ****in' chance?

Why would they do that, they have bearded John Unitas on the roster already

Otter 08-07-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5955061)
No way?!?!?! I wouldn't go that far.

Highly unlikely is probably more like it. Vick would be a much better backup than Croyle/Thigpen/Guiterrez (**** i can't spell his name)

Have you been paying attention to the kind of media attention this guy is willing to put up with as GM?

Old Dog 08-07-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5955223)
Have you been paying attention to the kind of media attention this guy is willing to put up with as GM?

I think there's about a 2% chance he's ever a Chief, but if he is there's a 100% chance I wouldn't renew tickets next year.

Just Passin' By 08-07-2009 09:54 AM

On an actual football level, is there anyone here that doesn't think Vick would be an upgrade over Thigpen and Croyle?

kstater 08-07-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5955483)
On an actual football level, is there anyone here that doesn't think Vick would be an upgrade over Thigpen and Croyle?

It's a tough call considering Vick's been out of football for 2 years.

Saulbadguy 08-07-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5955483)
On an actual football level, is there anyone here that doesn't think Vick would be an upgrade over Thigpen and Croyle?

Yes.

OnTheWarpath15 08-07-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5955483)
On an actual football level, is there anyone here that doesn't think Vick would be an upgrade over Thigpen and Croyle?

The guy wasn't that good when he was IN the league, much less after almost 3 years off.

Christ, my position on Thigpen is well documented, but Thigpen's numbers in 11 starts last year are better than 3 of Vick's 4 FULL seasons.

Michael Vick might be the most overrated NFL player of the past decade.

-Career comp% of under 54%

-Averaged 155 yards passing

-Has 55 fumbles in 74 games

-A career QB rating of 75.


No thanks.

Old Dog 08-07-2009 10:03 AM

I would fathom a guess of better than Croyle, slightly worse than Thigpen

kstater 08-07-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5955505)
The guy wasn't that good when he was IN the league, much less after almost 3 years off.

Christ, my position on Thigpen is well documented, but Thigpen's numbers in 11 starts last year are better than 3 of Vick's 4 FULL seasons.

Michael Vick might be the most overrated NFL player of the past decade.

-Career comp% of under 54%

-Averaged 155 yards passing

-Has 55 fumbles in 74 games

-A career QB rating of 75.


No thanks.

But, but ,but, he could run the wildcat.!one!!

OnTheWarpath15 08-07-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5955509)
But, but ,but, he could run the wildcat.!one!!

Talk about overrated.

The Wildcat was getting shut down late in the season last year.

It's a gimmick that teams will be better prepared for in 2009.

rockymtnchief 08-07-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5955505)
The guy wasn't that good when he was IN the league, much less after almost 3 years off.

Christ, my position on Thigpen is well documented, but Thigpen's numbers in 11 starts last year are better than 3 of Vick's 4 FULL seasons.

Michael Vick might be the most overrated NFL player of the past decade.

-Career comp% of under 54%

-Averaged 155 yards passing

-Has 55 fumbles in 74 games

-A career QB rating of 75.


No thanks.

:clap:
The year he was drafted I thought he was overrated as a QB. He's a great athlete, but overrated at the QB position.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-07-2009 11:08 AM

Michael Vick is a running back who can (sorta) throw the ball.

Not a QB. Never was, never will be.

Just Passin' By 08-07-2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 5955757)
Michael Vick is a running back who can (sorta) throw the ball.

Not a QB. Never was, never will be.

He went to 3 pro bowls in 6 years, as a QB, and he led his teams to a 38-28-1 record during that time. In 2003, he had the Falcons at 3-1 as a starter. After he was injured, the team struggled mightily and finished at 5-11. He was definitely not a traditional QB, but to say he was never a QB is more than I can agree with.

googlegoogle 08-07-2009 12:47 PM

the guy would make a good wr.

Nightfyre 08-07-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5955505)
The guy wasn't that good when he was IN the league, much less after almost 3 years off.

Christ, my position on Thigpen is well documented, but Thigpen's numbers in 11 starts last year are better than 3 of Vick's 4 FULL seasons.

Michael Vick might be the most overrated NFL player of the past decade.

-Career comp% of under 54%

-Averaged 155 yards passing

-Has 55 fumbles in 74 games

-A career QB rating of 75.


No thanks.

For a backup that's fine. Plus gailey can use him 3-4 times a game for gimmick plays.
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 08-07-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5955794)
He went to 3 pro bowls in 6 years, as a QB, and he led his teams to a 38-28-1 record during that time. In 2003, he had the Falcons at 3-1 as a starter. After he was injured, the team struggled mightily and finished at 5-11. He was definitely not a traditional QB, but to say he was never a QB is more than I can agree with.

We'll have to disagree.

He was voted into the Pro Bowl because the media deemed him "the most exciting football player on Earth".

He's an average QB (at best) with average stats. However, he can run.

He's a Running back with delusions of being a QB, in my opinion.

R3M OVERDRIVE 08-07-2009 03:45 PM

FREE AGENCY: Two jump in for Vick?
Michael Vick | Falcons | Interested: Packers? Patriots? Ravens?
The Titans, Ravens and Chiefs might be the only teams interested in signing Michael Vick. That's what ESPN's John Clayton said on ESPN Radio's Brock and Salk when pressed about NFL teams' interest in the troubled quarterback.

There was no mention of the Packers or Patriots, which is contrary to prior reports. The Packers have had "legitimate discussions" of signing Michael Vick, sources told the Wisconsin State Journal. But GM Ted Thompson hardly made it seem like they were this interested when he said he was open to the possibility.

Also, Patriots coach Bill Belichick said he'd be open to the possibility of bringing in Vick, although Pats owner Robert Kraft said he has no interest.
VICK'S POSSIBLE DESTINATIONS
Cowboys
Giants
Eagles
Redskins
Cardinals
49ers
Seahawks
Rams Bears
Lions
Packers?
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Panthers
Saints
Buccaneers Bills
Dolphins
Patriots?
Jets
Broncos
Chiefs?
Raiders
Chargers Ravens
Bengals
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Titans?


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