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Someone IS "pushing" Matt Cassell...and it AIN'T Tyler freaking Thigpen
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Someone IS "pushing" Matt Cassell...and it AIN'T Tyler freaking Thigpen
OK, cheap shot at Thiggy, but this is intriguing. At the very least it should serve up a huge plate of crow to ANYONE who ever bashed Croyle backers. The kid can flat PLAY. He ALWAYS had the ability.
If a miracle happens and he stays healthy...who knows? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-kansas-city/ Croyle making a move in Kansas City? Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 18, 2009 8:23 PM ET Over the weekend, we almost wrote a post on Brodie Croyle appearing to pass Tyler Thigpen on Kansas City's quarterback depth chart. Ultimately, it didn't make the cut. On Tuesday, Kansas City Star writer Kent Babb wrote that he thought Croyle was playing so well, "he's threatening [Matt] Cassel's job." Now that's a post. Babb's bold declaration -- on Twitter, not in the newspaper -- defies logic. Not only did the Chiefs trade for Cassel to be the starter, they handed him a huge contract only a month ago. Seeing Cassel on the bench would be the most surprising development of a preseason in which Michael Vick became Donovan McNabb's teammate. Then again, Chiefs coach Todd Haley didn't douse water on the notion Tuesday. Asked if Cassel has been the best quarterback in camp, Haley said: "I'll hold off on answering that." We've read that Cassel has been inconsistent at times, but overall the reviews of his camp performance have been positive. Croyle played well in Kansas City's preseason opener, but it's hard to believe that would be enough to threaten Cassel. It is clear, though, that Tyler Thigpen is the forgotten man in Kansas City. Babb wonders if Thigpen will even make the team. It's also clear that Chiefs coach Todd Haley thinks his team needs some tough love after the Herm Edwards era. Asked Tuesday about Brett Favre's return, Haley turned the focus back inward. "I'm just worried about this house. It's on fire, and I'm trying to keep it from burning down." Your 2009 Kansas City Chiefs, ladies and gentlemen! |
...apples to oranges.
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Riiight.
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Did WPI even send anyone to training camp?
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Babb sucks. They should make him cover trans gendered soccer instead. He knows nothing about football except peaking over teichtards shoulder.
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They were talking about this on 610 today with Teicher.....they were all saying that Cassel hasn't looked good since the 1st week of camp and since the scrimmage he's gone downhill.
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SANCHEZ! |
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Wasnt he a 7th round draft choice? |
if croyle wins the starters job id like everyone to know i led a good life with few regrets...
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I don't give a **** how great Croyle looks in camp, and most reports have been that he looks like shit. Whatever. He's not an NFL player.
There's a 0 percent chance of Brodie making it through consecutive games, let alone an entire season. Thus, he's ****ing worthless. The hit in game one last year was a perfect example of this. Most NFL QBs get up from this, but it damn near killed Croyle. It's over. The kid has a $100M arm and a ****ing .25 cent body. |
Didn't Cassel have a horrible camp and preseason with NewEngland last year?
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..."Not enough positives in the case of QB Brodie Croyle, however. During a drill, Croyle fumbled a snap from center and then there was confusion on a play whether it was a run or pass. Haley yanked Croyle from the drill, replacing him with Matt Gutierrez. In the next portions of practice, Gutierrez worked and Croyle did not. But towards the end of practice, Croyle was back with the No. 2 offense."...
...doesn't sound too threatening. |
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At Patsfans.com, earlier this year, there was actually a thread where people were arguing that the team should keep Cassel and trade Brady. That thread immediately let me know who the biggest assclowns on the board were. The notion that Croyle's going to beat out Cassel if Cassel's healthy isn't quite that reeruned, but it's trying hard to achieve that status. |
No job is safe in football. Unless Herm is your coach.
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Let's not forget that Herm is a quarterback's worst nightmare.
It IS possible Croyle might survive in the NFL given competent coaching + protection. |
If Croyle and Thigpen could be traded, they should be. If that's not possible, they should be cut.
Both are about as useful as a gorgeous pair of tits on a bear. |
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That fragile sumbitch was hurt in his first camp when he fell over a lineman. Give me a ****ing break. Secret Service couldn't protect his ass. ****ing coaching and line. What a joke. |
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And anyway it's preseason no one should really be flipping out. |
I didn't think it was possible, but my man-crush on Haley has now grown to man-love. Lost at the end of the article was this:
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As far as Cassel/Croyle/Thigpen goes, is Bowe running with the 1st team? Because if he's not, that would explain why Cassel isn't doing well in scrimmages... Maybe... |
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And no I dont think Croyle is the answer either, but neither is Mark Castle... |
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Cassel played well enough last year to get a very large contract. If he threw nothing but interceptions from today until the end of the exhibition season, he'd probably still be the opening day starter for the Chiefs. Instead, he played the first exhibition games with receivers who aren't the starters, and put 4 of 5 passes into their hands. The receivers dropped 2 of the passes, making it look as if Cassel struggled. I'm pretty sure that Haley's got the tape and understands that. |
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Well Cassel was playing on the most offensively talented team in the league..
This is to early to just be making snap judgments but at the same time it's not given that this will work out. |
There should be a ban on all threads that spawn from an opinion of Kent Babb.
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Of course, given Croyle's injury history, he'd probably break his throwing hand giving the thugs the cash for the job. |
Yea if the Chiefs benched Cassel after he got that contract everyone would call the front office a bunch of babbling monkeys.
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There is certainly a disparaging lack of talent on this team, but it sounds like he is struggling with throws, something that has nothing to do with the lack of talent around him. That's whats troubling at this point in camp. But there's a ways to go yet.
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From kcchiefs.com:
After giving himself a stranger earlier today, Croyle will miss the next two days of practice with a tendon strain. No word on if he'll be available on Friday. |
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I hear Croyle has those old-person shower pads. His career might be over if he slips in the shower. |
From what I've heard thus far, it's not the quarterbacks that aren't throwing, it's the wide receivers who aren't catching.
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Until then, some of us can with hold our expectations and realize he is nothing more than average with this weak ass talent around him... |
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And don't forget how many QBs went before Marino... |
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Maybe he strained a neck muscle? Ya know... tryin' to reach? :D |
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We should trade Brokie before he explodes after his first sack.
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If he wasn't so damned fragile! The kid is good.
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Let me apply your Croyle logic in another venue: Mick Lathan COULD be a great journalist if he had some training and press credentials. Convincing logic? Frogs and wings, GoChiefs. |
And of course something like that will flip people out the Chiefs have a ton riding on Cassel.
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So you're saying he's got talent...like Croyle....damn....
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This doesn't surprise me much. When you factor in his college career Croyle has played a whole lot more football than Cassell. He has a stronger arm and probably has more natural talent. I'd hazard he coulda done a pretty good job running New England's offense and probably would have quite a bit of success getting the ball deep to Moss. His problem is he just can't take a hit so you really can't start him regardless of how good he looks at times.
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Castle signed a contract proving his talent, yet and injury prone QB is pressing him to play to his contract talent level? Looks like the same issue to me, just how you want to precieve it... |
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May I interest you in an athletic, well...the roster says he plays "quarterback"? |
tree-limb go snap,
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"I'm just worried about this house. It's on fire, and I'm trying to keep it from burning down."
That's sig worthy. If I were a douche like Gochiefs I'd rush over to the Mane and make a thread based solely on that quote. |
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Amazing this comes up the day Croyle is pulled from practice for a while for screwing up.
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Babb just praised about Thigpen on saturday, aug. 15 on his twitter, wtf , his comment if thigpen would make the them is from aug. 8, morons! |
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He answered the initial question about Favre with the norm, (not verbatim here) he is one of the best of all time, we had a lot of problems with him up there in the Meadow lands last year, so I don't have to good of memories watching him. |
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It's going to be interesting next year. When there will be anywhere between 10-50 different people reporting from camp. You can bet there will just as many different opinions on the players. The "you must be blind" fights should be awesome.
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But then Haley's comment after pulling him was "Come on, Brodie. We’ve got to be able to count on you.” I thought was different from the normal tearing down after a player screws up. |
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When will they be inviting you to the owner's meetings in Miami? |
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Where the **** is AutumnWind. He gave me tremendous amounts of shit over Croyle. NOW WHAT, BITCH?
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Really there were plenty of people on this forum who preferred other guys to Pioli. |
The bottom line is that after 3 major knee surgeries, Croyle is NOT a starter in the NFL. He flat out can't stay healthy. He may look good when he knows the Defense can't hit him, but we all know he can't hold up for 8 games let alone 16 games in the NFL.
Hats off to Haley for utilizing the media wisely to generate some buzz about a competition. Haley did a great job using Thigpen as a ploy in the offseason/mini camp to create a worry in Cassel's mind, and now he uses Croyle to do the same. Very smart...(But nothing more than that)... Posted via Mobile Device |
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He is also giving Bowe props for improving and encouraging him even though he demoted him. |
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Heard Croyle really ****ed up today and looked horrible....no one is pushing cassel even if he is sucking
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But then, I've heard them hype everyone up before... and we were doomed then too. |
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Would you like a preview for NOW WHAT, too? |
About Cassel's performance in the game Saturday... (just throwing this out there.)
He threw five passes in pouring rain. I believe four of those were on 3rd down. (run, run, pass) Two were caught, two were dropped, one was just a bad pass. I don't believe we got to see nearly enough to judge him just yet. (Hell, I wouldn't start judging till maybe after mid-season... but it's what we do.) He also had some lower level WRs out there to throw to. Maybe part of Haleys team concept... as much as motivating Bowe. (We have to be able to depend on every one of you... show me what you will do if you get a chance in a real game.) I think everyone's jumping on Cassel too soon. It may be ugly for a while, but I think Haley honestly has a method behind his madness. He seems to be pushing buttons with damn near every player on the team... Dwayne Bowe's and Matt Cassel are thinking, "Is this guy serious? I've gotta step it up, and keep my spot." Meanwhile the Terrance Coppers of the world are thinking, "Alright... this is my chance to impress." Motivation in different ways... but it's still motivation. |
Have faith!
I believe Cassel will do the job...He is going to start, none of this crap he is being pushed, they paid him a ton of dough, you damn bet the Chiefs are going to give him every opportunity to succeed. He'll be fine, I think the kids got it. If anything, you guys should be listening to Len dawson. The best when it comes to discussing about football and if anything Len knows the QB position. Len had the chance to catch up with Cassel, and a few things he said about him is that he is really smooth and extremely intellegent. He is always the first and last guy to leave at practice. Those are some good things right there. |
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