Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down)
 

Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe?

Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET
Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles.

And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout.

According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field.

Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough.

As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp.

But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.

It sounds like the NY reporter is speculating more than anything.

I guess Athan was right.

I would trade Marshall to the Jets for their first and 3rd round picks.

Well, Pioli was trying to trade him... so this should be a done deal...now we are just looking at compensation.

BTW: This is sarcasm based on the stupid shit that is in Nick's meltdown on WPI. I don't believe that Bowe was actually going to be traded in the offseason.

I do believe the Chiefs would consider it now given he and Haley's inability to see eye to eye in camp. But, I think it will take a first round pick.

naked speculation.

I don't know if I would consider Haleys being a hard ass on Bowe not seeing eye to eye especially considering Bowe seems to be responding and Haley keeps saying he's "making progress" and now he is starting get snaps with the first team.

I do agree the Chiefs would listen, but think at this point the Jets would have to over pay for him and it would have to be more than a first.

He's good but no way any one gives up this much for him. He's one fight with his girlfriend away from an NFL suspension. I'd say if you could get a 2nd rounder for him you are doing good.

Yeah, he has to many issues to get anywhere near what he is worth in a trade. That is why I think it is highly unlikely he gets traded. As a fan I would be pissed if Denver traded Marshall away for a measly second round pick, but I would be fine with a 1st.

Exactly, and we're also seeing in camp reports that Haly is giving Bowe props in practice when he's doing things right.

First and a third?

ROFL

Good Luck with that.

Why in the world would any team trade away their only young, non-injured, affordable, offensive play maker?

KnowMo may be a homer, but if I was a Donk fan and he was moved for something less than that I'd be disgusted. You might as well keep him if you give a player that young with his production away for something like a 2nd. Tony was traded for a 2nd and he's like 10 years older.

I'll support the trading of Marshall only if they immediately parlay what they receive into a trade for Boldin. Make that happen and I could live with it.

Bowe's not going anywhere, period. He's already one of the best receivers in the game and has even more potential to be right up there with Fitzgerald...well maybe a notch or two below.

Well he is making more money than Grbac did, maybe he can.

Yeah maybe not quite Fitzgerald but he certainly has it in him to be at least on par with Boldin.

Are you kidding me, we have Copper and Darling as our starters! If we can trade a third stringer lets do it. :rolleyes:

It is not possible for bowe to be as good as fitzgerald

bye showboating piece of shit

Or 5 or 6.

I highly doubt Pioli would make a deal with the Jets with Billy B. and Tuna in that division for one of his only offensive playmakers unless he was able to get a ransom for Bowe...

Eh, I don't see Bowe as the Boldin Type. I think of him to be on par with T.O. Same kind of athletic ability and body type.

His combine scouting reports said his ceiling was andre johnson
but keep it mind that was before andre johnson really blew up

Bowe is about as likely to be traded as Tyler Thigpen is to start against the Ravens.

Jets looking to make trade for wide receiver with Brandon Marshall, Dwanye Bowe on radar.



CORTLAND, N.Y. - The Jets are known for making deals in August - remember some guy named Favre? - and they're thinking trade once again.

They're exploring the wide-receiver market and have held preliminary discussions with a few teams, according to NFL sources. Although he's not officially on the trading block, the biggest name on the Jets' radar is the Broncos' Brandon Marshall, who has issued a pay me-or-trade me demand. At this point, the Jets are only monitoring the Marshall situation in Denver.

The Broncos reportedly have no interest in trading Marshall, 25, one of the top young receivers in the league, but they also said the same thing about quarterback Jay Cutler - and now he's playing for the Bears.

Because of off-the-field issues, a surgically repaired hip and enormous contract demands (he's entering the final year), Marshall would be a risk for any team. But there's no denying his talent: 206 catches and 2,590 yards over the last two seasons. At 6-4, he'd be a much-needed target in the red zone for the Jets. While they consider Marshall a long shot, they're not about to summarily dismiss it.

The Jets have one of the most inexperienced receiving corps in the league, the reliable Jerricho Cotchery and four other veterans with a combined total of 110 catches. The organization doesn't believe the picture is as bleak as some are painting it, but it wouldn't mind adding a proven playmaker.

If the Jets do add a veteran, it probably won't be a free agent such as Marvin Harrison.

Another name to watch is the Chiefs' Dwayne Bowe, a former first-round pick. He caught 86 balls for 1,022 yards on an awful team last season, but he's had a difficult transition under new coach Todd Haley. He may have played his way out of the doghouse with five catches in the preseason opener, but the Chiefs are rebuilding and will move a player if he doesn't fit their long-term plans.

The Giants are another team that bears watching. They have a glut of receivers, and the Jets are wondering if one, perhaps Sinorice Moss, will become available.

The Jets are looking for a consistent threat other than Cotchery. Chansi Stuckey is slated to start opposite Cotchery, with Brad Smith the No. 3 wideout, but the flavor of the week is David Clowney. He caught three passes for 102yards and a touchdown in the opener.

"He stepped up big-time in that game," Rex Ryan said yesterday. "I think that was huge. We all know he can do it. He's got that blazing speed. It wasn't necessarily a surprise. You guys saw it last year (in the preseason) ...but it was good for me to see with my own eyes."

The receivers have been dealing with the speculation since the draft, when the Jets tried to trade up for Percy Harvin. Then came the rumors about Plaxico Burress, now an afterthought because he's reportedly facing a long suspension. Cotchery doesn't believe they need another veteran. "I'm leading these troops right now," he said. "I think we have the guys to get it done. We have some talented guys."

The players and coaches are buzzing about speedster Aundrae Allison, whom the Jets acquired Aug. 5 on waivers from the Vikings.

"I always call him '88 and out the gate.' He can fly," Ryan said. "I'm just waiting for them to throw him a ball. I'm like, 'You know, he's open. Eighty-eight is open again.' I'm just waiting for our quarterbacks to realize that."

Ryan can talk all he wants, but GM Mike Tannenbaum has a reputation for making deals in the preseason. In recent years, the Jets have acquired Pete Kendall, Ty Law, Kevan Barlow and, of course, Brett Favre.

Ty Law lol

If we get the kind of compensation for Bowe that helps the Chiefs get Boldin...go for it.

So you basically flip Bowe for Boldin and end up paying a lot more money?

This should bring all the Jet fan douchebags to the yard.

why is everyone so concerned about paying money for good players?

this wont happen, we have no WR's

When he's a free agent? He's gone.

Is he worth twice as much as Bowe? He hasn't played a full season 4 of 6 of his years in the NFL.

Given Pioli's hatred of the Jets, I doubt they deal with NY.

Reminds me of being at the Hall of Fame a few weeks ago. Met my first group of Jets fans that were actually from NY. Ya know the stereotype of the "So I says to him, I says..." guy from NY? That was all the Jets fans.


As far as the Bowe Show goes, it's not going anywhere unless we get a ridiculous return or a Boldin-type WR in return. Seeing as how neither of those are likely to happen, I'm pretty sure Bowe stays.

it sounds like this guy is reaching here. He figures Bowe is in the dog house, so they want to trade him. But i dont think that it at all, i think we are just being hard on Bowe to max his talent.

Is Andre Johnson worth twice as much as Bowe? he has only played fully in 4 out of 6 also
Larry Fitzgerald has only played a full season is 3 out his 5
Marques Colston has played 1 full season out of 3
Steve smith has played a full season in 2 out his 8 years

and all of those guys are way better than bowe

Did that come from WPI NY *special victim unit"?

You think Boldin and Johnson are way better than Bowe?

if you think there isn't much difference between andre johnson and dwayne bowe
you really need to find a new hobby

Compare their numbers their first two years in the league.

If you think Bowe isn't a very impressive receiver, you really need to stop being dumb.

that's laughable I never said he wasn't a decent
he is a long way from johnson though

What makes Marques Colston WAY better than Bowe?

Colston has better numbers through 2 years (2,240 yards and 19 touchdowns) than Bowe (2,017 yards and 12 touchdowns) but the numbers are not so much better that he should be considered a WAY better receiver, especially when Drew Brees>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen. Hell Lance Moore had similar stats to Bowe last year and I guarantee he isn't half the receiver that Bowe is.

Johnson just finished his 6th season. Bowe finished his second with Herm as a head coach and having two different coordinators in his first two seasons.

Bowe first two years:
Rec: 156
Yards: 2017
TD: 12

Johnson first two years:
Rec: 145
Yards 2118
TD: 10

Andre Johnson is MUCH better than Bowe.

Well right now he is, he has also been in the NFL alot longer than Bowe. As has already been pointed out both have almost identical stats through 2 years in the league.

He's better than decent. He's much, much better than decent.

Boldin will never be a Chief,get over it.

Matt Jones is still available for no compensation. Still can't believe that.

Bowe won't be traded. Just a complete shot in the dark by the "reporter".

With Pioli in charge, I think anything is possible.

They have no allegiance to Bowe, just as they had no allegiance to Gonzalez. Todd Haley coached Steve Breaston, a fifth round pick, to become a 1,000 yard receiver along side Fitzgerald and Boldin! I'm sure he thinks he can do that again.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere this season and if the right trade comes along (say a 1, 3 & a 6), Bowe's a goner.

Johnson had two different O-coordinators and his qb led the league in being sacked by a HUGE margin those two seasons

plus I 'm not talking about andre johnson from the past
I am talking right now
d-bowe right now and andre johnson right now

This would make a lot of sense...I just bought a Bowe jersey.

I don't think anyone is debating Andre Johnson is much better than Dwayne Bowe right now. That said, Bowe is just entering his third year. He's done pretty damn well in his first 2 years all things considered. He may never be as good as Andre Johnson, but he could be better. Nobody knows, but he certainly has potential.

Which makes your point all the more uninteresting.

Sure it's already been said, but if you're shopping a player, you probably don't demote him. That's just weakening your position in the bargaining.

Why is there a Bowe, Andre Johnson debate?

That isn't really fair, Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson are 2 guys that no one should get compared to no one else has that kind of upside or natural talent. Andre Johnson is bigger than Bowe is yet he has top end speed.

People believe anything they read?

Yet Bowe put up better #'s his first two years than Johnson did?

Great numbers are numbers Johnson plays on the worst team in the game. There isn't a person alive that would take Bowe over him, that's not to discount Bowe it's just that Calvin is a freak.

I was speaking of Andre Johnson.

As I said in my last post in another thread....

I don't believe everything I see on the planet.

I don't think there is one that would take him over Andre either...

Those guys are just different animals Andre Johnson is a 230lb man with top end speed.

I haven't seen the work ethic and dedication by Bowe to become an elite receiver yet. Apparently neither has Haley considering the demotion. That said, we are not trading Bowe unless it leads directly to us getting another WR that we think is better.

example: Jets were going to give us a 1st and 3rd for Bowe and then we already had a deal in place to give those picks(plus whatever) to the Cardinals for Boldin.

No way to we go into the season without Bowe or another comparable receiver.

Andre is much faster than Bowe, which puts Bowe at an obvious disadvantage for the comparison. Bowe is more of a Fitz/T.O Type. Andre is more of a Calvin Johnson/Randy Moss Type. Different kind of receiver.

And yet with more natural ability Andre Johnson wasn't able to put up better numbers than Bowe his first two years in the league.

I think people on this board greatly underestimate Bowe's ability as a WR. The grass is always greener.

That would suck.

Of course he got drafted by the expansion team with it's I believe 1st pick in the 2nd year..

Either way if you're picking WR's generally speaking you take the guy with the huge body and top end speed before you take the guy with just the body. it's no slight on Bowe it's just what you naturally have.

There's a reason Andre was a top 5 pick.

Bowe should have been a top 10 pick too. Theres a reason Miamis GM/Coach aren't there anymore.

just listened to a jet's beat reporter who didn't think there was anything to this...

Eh Miami gets blasted for passing on the QB, Bowe was generally projected right around where he went, he was projected to the Chiefs numerous times.

Bowe > Ginn. It seemed like alot of fans weren't happy with the Bowe pick, he's really a stud though. I think trading him would be a mistake and a great way to get Cassel hurt. A bad o-line+ Wr's that don't get open= injured QB. Was the QB Brady Quinn? Yea I don't know about Brady either he's good and the Browns are stupid or he didn't get draft til late for a reason.

Boldin > Bowe

Yea well they should have taken Quinn...and Ted Ginn wasn't projected that high either.

Bowe+Age>Boldin+Age

Bowe can be great if Haley can do what he did with Fitzgerald...and thats exactly what it seems he's trying to do.

Not really, no.

Boldin is Bowe's upside so....I like Dwayne Bowe and all but he isn't as good as Boldin is right now.

Boldin> Bowe. Boldin actually played some QB in college. I remember he played a bowl game as QB and sucked.

He was a QB in high school, FSU had him there because a bunch of guys were hurt or suspended I don't remember which.

Yes, Boldin is better right now, but it would be pretty dumb to trade a young reciever for a vet when the team is in the shape it is now.