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Mr. Flopnuts 08-19-2009 09:45 AM

Would you trade Tyler Thigpen for Kyle Orton straight up?
 
I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch that turd with a 10 foot pole. How about you? Let's let the Donko homers know where we stand on their shitty quarterback.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 09:46 AM

No

Mr. Krab 08-19-2009 09:47 AM

No, probably not. Thigpen brings "Wildcat" potential for us where Orton wouldn't bring anything.

luv 08-19-2009 09:47 AM

Hell no.

Quesadilla Joe 08-19-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5984802)
I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch that turd with a 10 foot pole. How about you? Let's let the Donko homers know where we stand on their shitty quarterback.

ROFL

I know when someone is trying to bait me.

HemiEd 08-19-2009 09:48 AM

Not no, but hell no. Seen enough of Orton when he was up here, he had a hard time competing with Rex Grossman.

MVChiefFan 08-19-2009 09:49 AM

I would be crushed when Thigpen scrambles around aimlessly for 30 seconds and wings a no-look side-arm pass to Marshall for the game winner.

the Talking Can 08-19-2009 09:49 AM

i wouldn't trade aids straight up for orton

Sofa King 08-19-2009 09:50 AM

negative. rather have thiggy on the bench than orton...

luv 08-19-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5984823)
ROFL

I know when someone is trying to bait me.

No one's baiting you. We're just telling you that your QB sucks.

Dayze 08-19-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984839)
No one's baiting you. We're just telling you that your QB sucks.

ROFL

Mr. Flopnuts 08-19-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5984823)
ROFL

I know when someone is trying to bait me.

You know I'm good with you homeboy. This is just some rival banter. :D

Fritz88 08-19-2009 09:53 AM

no


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_deEYMtCc_-...ton-stoned.jpg

Quesadilla Joe 08-19-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984839)
No one's baiting you. We're just telling you that your QB sucks.

How would a woman know if a QB sucks or not?

DaWolf 08-19-2009 09:54 AM

Depends what kind of team you are building. I don't like Orton at all, but I'll say this for him, he's shown the moxie in the past of being able to win games with the Bears, so in that sense he's a bit more of a proven commodity that Thigpen. But I don't think he's better than Cassel or brings anything more to the table. Thigpen, while pretty inconsistent last year, has shown flashes and brings that different element to the table, but I'm not real enamored with him either. He's fallen down to third string this offseason thus far, so how much does he really want it? Seems to me like he may have just resigned himself or settled with the fact that he was going to be a backup and didn't come into the preseason program ready to compete. Not sure if that's the guy I want leading the team...

luv 08-19-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5984852)
How would a woman know if a QB sucks or not?

Same way a man would.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 10:00 AM

Yes. Orton is reasonably accurate and his three-pick game is being overblown. He's never been a turnover-prone QB.

Thigpen...unreasonably inaccurate and has always been turnover prone.

Fish 08-19-2009 10:04 AM

I would. Orton would be much more versatile than Thigpen would. If I'm looking for a decent backup QB, I'd rather have one that didn't require a custom offense installed just to be somewhat productive....

Quesadilla Joe 08-19-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984877)
Yes. Orton is reasonably accurate and his three-pick game is being overblown. He's never been a turnover-prone QB.

Thigpen...unreasonably inaccurate and has always been turnover prone.

Yep. Not even Tom Brady or Peyton Manning have thrown 205 consecutive passes without an INT like Orton did last year.

luv 08-19-2009 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984877)
Yes. Orton is reasonably accurate and his three-pick game is being overblown. He's never been a turnover-prone QB.

Thigpen...unreasonably inaccurate and has always been turnover prone.

In 2008, Orton and Thigpen both had 12 INT. Of course, Orton had more attempts. YPA is almost equal, with Orton having the slight advantage. Both threw 18 TD's, and Orton got sacked one more time than Thigpen. They actually look pretty closely matched according to stats. Of course, Orton has a few more years experience in the NFL.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 10:26 AM

It's pretty much an irrelevant conversation.

If your starting quarterback is named Thigpen OR Orton...you're ****ed.

LaChapelle 08-19-2009 10:31 AM

Can he return punts...er.. .kickoffs?

Quesadilla Joe 08-19-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984928)
In 2008, Orton and Thigpen both had 12 INT. Of course, Orton had more attempts. YPA is almost equal, with Orton having the slight advantage. Both threw 18 TD's, and Orton got sacked one more time than Thigpen. They actually look pretty closely matched according to stats. Of course, Orton has a few more years experience in the NFL.

Orton had an 89.1 QB Rating before he hurt his ankle week 8 last year. He was injured the entire second half of the season.

Mr. Flopnuts 08-19-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5984852)
How would a woman know if a QB sucks or not?

LMAO Now that would be baiting.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 10:45 AM

ROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5984833)
i wouldn't trade aids straight up for orton


BigMeatballDave 08-19-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984839)
No one's baiting you. We're just telling you that your QB sucks.

:D:clap:

milkman 08-19-2009 10:50 AM

We'll find out how good or bad Orton is when he's asked to win games this year.

My guess is that his ints go up and his rating goes down,

CoMoChief 08-19-2009 10:50 AM

Hell no. Thigpen actually has the better arm and is more athletica and can make plays with his legs better than a lot of starting QB's around the league.

Mr. Kotter 08-19-2009 10:51 AM

Nope. Thignpen has more upside....and burst. :)

Dave Lane 08-19-2009 10:51 AM

No

CrazyPhuD 08-19-2009 10:52 AM

I'd trade KnoMo straight up for him :shrug:

Bane 08-19-2009 11:26 AM

Uh hell no.

Time's Yours 08-19-2009 11:28 AM

I would, but only because if it happened, knowmo would come here telling us all about how much better Thigpen is than Orton the second Thigpen became a Donkey.

And that would give me a nice laugh, just like all of his other posts.

SAUTO 08-19-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984877)
Yes. Orton is reasonably accurate and his three-pick game is being overblown. He's never been a turnover-prone QB.

Thigpen...unreasonably inaccurate and has always been turnover prone.

huh? turnover prone? you sure about that?

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 11:33 AM

I will not debate you.

Mr. Krab 08-19-2009 11:34 AM

Luv lays the smacketh down. ROFL

SAUTO 08-19-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5985111)
I will not debate you.

if i were you i wouldnt debate ANYONE right now, in fact i cant really believe that you are still here posting

Reaper16 08-19-2009 11:35 AM

Yes. Without thinking twice.

Basileus777 08-19-2009 11:37 AM

Definitely. Orton is a solid backup, Thigpen is useless.

KCDC 08-19-2009 11:44 AM

Thigpen has more upside. Orton has peaked. Both may turn out to be names forgotten in five years; but, Thigpen has more athleticism. With more experience, he could make fewer mistakes.

HolyHandgernade 08-19-2009 11:45 AM

Even if objectively, Orton is the better player, but is somehow not working out in Denver, why would you want to trade for them and change the dynamic in Denver?

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is in the middle of making a mistake."

-HH

Pitt Gorilla 08-19-2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5985119)
Definitely. Orton is a solid backup, Thigpen is useless.

Awesome avi.


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