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Titty Meat 08-29-2009 06:30 PM

**** You Scott Pioli
 
Who spends all that money on a QB and doesn't upgrade the o-line? **** you.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 06:33 PM

Stupid much?

Not 1 regular game played.

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsualSuspects (Post 6012885)
Stupid much?

Not 1 regular game played.

Stupid much? Not 1 regular game played and the franchise QB already injured his knee cuz his shit O-line. Pay a QB to play behind a shitty o-line, nice logic doucherocket.

DaFace 08-29-2009 06:40 PM

You smell of stinky penis.

JuicesFlowing 08-29-2009 06:42 PM

Clearly Pioli knows nothing about building a championship franchise. Carl Peterson where art thou?ROFL

Quesadilla Joe 08-29-2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6012985)
Stupid much? Not 1 regular game played and the franchise QB already injured his knee cuz his shit O-line. Pay a QB to play behind a shitty o-line, nice logic doucherocket.

ROFL

kstater 08-29-2009 06:49 PM

I can't believe he didn't use all of his 237 draft picks on linemen.

Bane 08-29-2009 06:52 PM

Ok Denver you can the the guy you ran your QB out of town for now !!!! Lmao!!!
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BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6012988)
You smell of stinky penis.

ROFL

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 06:54 PM

R-tard

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6013136)
R-tard

Yea, Trade a 2nd round pick and pay a QB 63 mil with a shitty o-line. Your fat anyway probably just think about food and haven't put too much thought into anything else.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6012988)
You smell of stinky penis.

He is god, just ask him. :)

scorpio 08-29-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6013104)
Ok Denver you can the the guy you ran your QB out of town for now !!!! Lmao!!!
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Still having trouble with the English language I see.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013155)
Yea, Trade a 2nd round pick and pay a QB 63 mil with a shitty o-line. Your fat anyway probably just think about food and haven't put too much thought into anything else.

Missouris' finest.

ROFL

BigChiefFan 08-29-2009 07:03 PM

They just said Cassel was probable for returning.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013155)
Yea, Trade a 2nd round pick and pay a QB 63 mil with a shitty o-line. Your fat anyway probably just think about food and haven't put too much thought into anything else.

I Think about ****ing your woman a lot...:)

Bwana 08-29-2009 07:25 PM

billay billay billay :shake:

Bane 08-29-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio (Post 6013170)
Still having trouble with the English language I see.

I could really care less what you see.I do see the back of your mothers head a lot though.
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KcMizzou 08-29-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UsualSuspects (Post 6013226)
Missouris' finest.

ROFL

Whoa now... he's a Husker fan.

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6012865)
Who spends all that money on a QB and doesn't upgrade the o-line? **** you.

Yea then you could have started a thread like who the hell rebuilds a team without starting with the defensive line........... dumbass!

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6013438)
Whoa now... he's a Husker fan.

It was a joke.

Sorry.

So you claim him?

:doh!:

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:29 PM

It's a reasonable point he just phrased it in a inflammatory way,

KcMizzou 08-29-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UsualSuspects (Post 6013445)
It was a joke.

Sorry.

So you claim him?

:doh!:

Hell no...lol

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6013454)
Hell no...lol

Just checking.

LOL

Deberg_1990 08-29-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013451)
It's a reasonable point he just phrased it in a inflammatory way,

YOu cant expect to upgrade all the holes on a 2 win team in 1 off season. Its just not gonna happen overnight.

Skip Towne 08-29-2009 07:31 PM

That stupid Pioli should have filled all our holes in 3 months.

Bugeater 08-29-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6013438)
Whoa now... he's a Husker fan.

But he lives in Missouri...so he's yours. :D

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013451)
It's a reasonable point he just phrased it in a inflammatory way,

if we would have drafted 2 o lineman first everyone would just be saying, "we got 10 sacks last year why didnt we upgrade the defense." It's a damned if you do thing. You got to start somewhere. We should have drafted Orakpo huh mecca?

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6013461)
YOu cant expect to upgrade all the holes on a 2 win team in 1 off season. Its just not gonna happen overnight.

I agree with that too, but at the same time if they decided Jackson was the guy at 3 and all that, there were still numerous OL prospects available on the 2nd day and there were quite a few in FA.

It doesn't seem like a wise move to trade for and give a QB a franchise deal then let him get beat up. It's almost like setting him up to fail.

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 6013471)
if we would have drafted 2 o lineman first everyone would just be saying, "we got 10 sacks last year why didnt we upgrade the defense." It's a damned if you do thing. You got to start somewhere. We should have drafted Orakpo huh mecca?

No I don't like Orakpo, and you don't have to use your first round pick to address the OL, I'm actually a proponent of not drafting OL in the first round.

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 07:34 PM

I forgot this is Chiefsplanet and you can't speak about the new GM.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013474)
I agree with that too, but at the same time if they decided Jackson was the guy at 3 and all that, there were still numerous OL prospects available on the 2nd day and there were quite a few in FA.

It doesn't seem like a wise move to trade for and give a QB a franchise deal then let him get beat up. It's almost like setting him up to fail.

Hello Guinness. Wow we agree.

Skip Towne 08-29-2009 07:35 PM

Defenses are easier to build is why he started there.

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 07:36 PM

I wasn't saying upgrade every position but its reasonable to expect the 3 time super bowl blah blah to atleast upgrade the center and RT. Thats really not asking for much.

LaChapelle 08-29-2009 07:36 PM

Calm down, bi-lay

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013479)
No I don't like Orakpo, and you don't have to use your first round pick to address the OL, I'm actually a proponent of not drafting OL in the first round.

If there is a sure fire LT in the first round you have to do it. Of course we have a LT so i'm against it.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013474)
I agree with that too, but at the same time if they decided Jackson was the guy at 3 and all that, there were still numerous OL prospects available on the 2nd day and there were quite a few in FA.

It doesn't seem like a wise move to trade for and give a QB a franchise deal then let him get beat up. It's almost like setting him up to fail.

6 of one, half dozen of the other. What if there was a stud veteran OL we threw a truck load of money at. People would still be crying about our QB situation. Rome wasn 't built in a day...

KcMizzou 08-29-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013485)
I forgot this is Chiefsplanet and you can't speak about the new GM.

The beauty of Chiefsplanet is the fact that you can say damned near anything you want. And the fact that everyone can say pretty much anything they want back to you about it.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013501)
I wasn't saying upgrade every position but its reasonable to expect the 3 time super bowl blah blah to atleast upgrade the center and RT. Thats really not asking for much.

You cannot upgrade all that and QB in one off season.

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:38 PM

Uh the Chiefs had the money to pay a OL and get Cassel if they wanted...

Seriously if this team had used a 5th round pick on Jamon Meredeith he'd likely be the starting RT right now.

It's just little things like that.

Bwana 08-29-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6013516)
The beauty of Chiefsplanet is the fact that you can say damned near anything you want. And the fact that everyone can say pretty much anything they want back to you about it.

Indeed :thumb:

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013501)
I wasn't saying upgrade every position but its reasonable to expect the 3 time super bowl blah blah to atleast upgrade the center and RT. Thats really not asking for much.

True fan or rebuild like we need?

MadMax 08-29-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013501)
I wasn't saying upgrade every position but its reasonable to expect the 3 time super bowl blah blah to atleast upgrade the center and RT. Thats really not asking for much.



He already had a nice wanger wtf you want? LMAO Besides he is Gawd do not question him.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6013485)
I forgot this is Chiefsplanet and you can't speak about the new GM.

Slam him all you want. Its unreasonable at this point.

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6012865)
Who spends all that money on a QB and doesn't upgrade the o-line? **** you.

Bitch if you want but I see you're not pointing out we all ready have half as many sacks in the preseason as we did all of last year.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013522)
Uh the Chiefs had the money to pay a OL and get Cassel if they wanted...

Seriously if this team had used a 5th round pick on Jamon Meredeith he'd likely be the starting RT right now.

It's just little things like that.

Did you miss your calling as a GM because you wouldn't cut your hair? :D

Tiger's Fan 08-29-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6013502)
Calm down, bi-lay

LOL

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:42 PM

Asking the Chiefs to acquire 2 decent starting lineman isn't really unreasonable unless you think Alex Magee, Donald Washington and Colin Brown are guys we can't possibly do without.

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013522)
Uh the Chiefs had the money to pay a OL and get Cassel if they wanted...

Seriously if this team had used a 5th round pick on Jamon Meredeith he'd likely be the starting RT right now.

It's just little things like that.

hindsight is 20 20. Meredeith may be good but so is Clady and Orakpo and D. Morgon sucks, so every one makes mistakes.

Mecca 08-29-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 6013563)
hindsight is 20 20. Meredeith may be good but so is Clady and Orakpo and D. Morgon sucks, so every one makes mistakes.

Sure but this team took Brown over Meredith when even people in the draft thread were like "WTF would you do that?"

There's reasonable risk and upside.

notorious 08-29-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013559)
Asking the Chiefs to acquire 2 decent starting lineman isn't really unreasonable unless you think Alex Magee, Donald Washington and Colin Brown are guys we can't possibly do without.

Abso****inglutely

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6013554)
LOL

haha coming from the guy who wants to fight Mecca.

Titty Meat 08-29-2009 07:48 PM

Yea everyone should be excited that Cassel got hurt becuz of the shitty o-line. Durrrrr

MGRS13 08-29-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013599)
Sure but this team took Brown over Meredith when even people in the draft thread were like "WTF would you do that?"

There's reasonable risk and upside.

You can't say what the chiefs didnt like about so and so. such is the draft. Maybe brown did something that they thought fit in there system better. I think where you get drafted, by what team I mean, sometimes goes a long way for a player.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 07:52 PM

Hire mecca now!

Saccopoo 08-29-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013559)
Asking the Chiefs to acquire 2 decent starting lineman isn't really unreasonable unless you think Alex Magee, Donald Washington and Colin Brown are guys we can't possibly do without.

This. Times a billion.

tk13 08-29-2009 07:54 PM

This team had too many holes. They weren't all going to be filled. No team hits 100% of the time on their personnel moves. And I was one of the people that wouldn't have freaked if we went O-line in the first. But that would've left holes in other places. We needed a QB, our defense was terrible across the board. Our pass rush was historically bad. That's how you go 2-14, that's hard to do unless you are really bad.

mlyonsd 08-29-2009 07:59 PM

This thread is littered with idiots.

ziggysocki 08-29-2009 08:05 PM

Our O-line is absolutely ****ing god damn mother****ing trash. they ****ing suck. they ****ing suck hard. assholes

Saccopoo 08-29-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6013676)
This team had too many holes. They weren't all going to be filled. No team hits 100% of the time on their personnel moves. And I was one of the people that wouldn't have freaked if we went O-line in the first. But that would've left holes in other places. We needed a QB, our defense was terrible across the board. Our pass rush was historically bad. That's how you go 2-14, that's hard to do unless you are really bad.

Jackson is understandable as the first pick. Cassel and Vrabel as our second rounder is a steal. The rest of the draft was nothing less than a complete headscratcher in terms of addressing the obvious needs that the Chiefs had, especially considering what/who was available in each round when the Chiefs picked. And this isn't hindsight. Everyone, and I mean everyone, on the Draft Planet were "WTF?," including people who were in total disagreement about certain players, etc. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it was either a transition thing where the Pioli/Haley regime just didn't have the time to properly prepare for the draft, the old crew sent them a shit sandwich as a parting gift, or whathaveyou, but this last draft hurt the Chiefs in terms of not immediately addressing areas of obvious problems.

As Mecca stated, it would have been rather easy to get two new starting OL out of this last draft if they wanted especially when you look at what we had sitting around and knowing that it was that line who got two of your quarterbacks killed last season and you just picked up what was going to be your QBOTF.

I don't know if it merits a "**** you Pioli.", but it does require a "Dude...?"

Micjones 08-29-2009 08:09 PM

The Chiefs could've upgrade this Offensive Line significantly, and at a reasonable price, this off-season.

Ray Willis, one of the best young RT's in the NFL, was available. He re-signed with the team we're playing tonight for a modest contract.

There were a shit ton of young talented Guards in the Draft we could easily have taken over a guy like Donald Washington.

They dropped the ball a bit in that regard.

Skip Towne 08-29-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsualSuspects (Post 6013653)
Hire mecca now!

Why did they pay Pioli millions when they could get Mecca for $8 an hour?

DaFace 08-29-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6013465)
That stupid Pioli should have filled all our holes in 3 months.

NTTAWWT :shrug:

DeezNutz 08-29-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 6013821)
NTTAWWT :shrug:

LMAO

Simply Red 08-29-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6013522)
Uh the Chiefs had the money to pay a OL and get Cassel if they wanted...

Seriously if this team had used a 5th round pick on Jamon Meredeith he'd likely be the starting RT right now.

It's just little things like that.

lol

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6014017)
lol

They never listen!

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6013809)
Why did they pay Pioli millions when they could get Mecca for $8 an hour?

I am a N00b. Still learning.

TEX 08-29-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6013520)
You cannot upgrade all that and QB in one off season.

You can sure try. The Chiefs didn't which shocked me. Especially when you consider that our OL has sucked for the past couple of seasons.

kstater 08-29-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6014104)
You can sure try. The Chiefs didn't which shocked me. Especially when you consider that our OL has sucked for the past couple of seasons.

Yup, I can't believe they ONLY brought in roughly 35 new players.

TEX 08-29-2009 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6014138)
Yup, I can't believe they ONLY brought in roughly 35 new players.

And NONE upgraded the line...

tk13 08-29-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 6013770)
Jackson is understandable as the first pick. Cassel and Vrabel as our second rounder is a steal. The rest of the draft was nothing less than a complete headscratcher in terms of addressing the obvious needs that the Chiefs had, especially considering what/who was available in each round when the Chiefs picked. And this isn't hindsight. Everyone, and I mean everyone, on the Draft Planet were "WTF?," including people who were in total disagreement about certain players, etc. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - it was either a transition thing where the Pioli/Haley regime just didn't have the time to properly prepare for the draft, the old crew sent them a shit sandwich as a parting gift, or whathaveyou, but this last draft hurt the Chiefs in terms of not immediately addressing areas of obvious problems.

As Mecca stated, it would have been rather easy to get two new starting OL out of this last draft if they wanted especially when you look at what we had sitting around and knowing that it was that line who got two of your quarterbacks killed last season and you just picked up what was going to be your QBOTF.

I don't know if it merits a "**** you Pioli.", but it does require a "Dude...?"

I don't disagree, but what I said is right. No matter if we tried to upgrade every single position, some of those moves would've failed. That's just reality. If you think you could upgrade a 2 win team with holes at almost every position into a team full of quality starters in one offseason you truly should be in an NFL front office.

And I was one of the people arguing that drafting Stafford or Sanchez was a big risk because we have so much work to do with the O-line. Often times rookie QB's thrown behind bad lines are the ones who bust. The guys like Roethlisberger who break out their rookie year played behind pretty solid lines.

But even the "smart" moves don't always work out. Our O-line sucks. Our QB sucked. We had the worst pass rush in the history of football. There's just an overwhelming amount of crap to fix.

Mecca 08-29-2009 09:15 PM

If I had drafted Sanchez I most likely wouldn't have played him this year...you don't get that option with Cassel.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6014154)
And NONE upgraded the line...

:rolleyes:

Mecca 08-29-2009 09:18 PM

Well it was pretty obvious upgrading the line wasn't put in as a prime thing to do.

It probably should have been the same as you don't set up top 5 picks to fail at QB you shouldn't set up a guy you traded for and paid to fail.

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6014104)
You can sure try. The Chiefs didn't which shocked me. Especially when you consider that our OL has sucked for the past couple of seasons.

There are different OL here. I'm sure they concentrate on this next season. Its going to take some time. I will be bitching if nothing is done then.

MadMax 08-29-2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6013809)
Why did they pay Pioli millions when they could get Mecca for $8 an hour?



Politics?

Mecca 08-29-2009 09:21 PM

The Chiefs OL is the same guys aside from a 35 year old guard and some scrubs from Miami...

I don't think that is adequately addressing the line in the same year you decided go go get your "franchise QB".

BigMeatballDave 08-29-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6014223)
The Chiefs OL is the same guys aside from a 35 year old guard and some scrubs from Miami...

I don't think that is adequately addressing the line in the same year you decided go go get your "franchise QB".

What good FA OL were available this past FA period? Seriously. I don't remember.

Mecca 08-29-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6014234)
What good FA OL were available this past FA period? Seriously. I don't remember.

Well lets see...the Rams signed the dude from the Ravens, his name escapes me..Ray Willis was out there and signed back with Seattle pretty cheaply.

They had numerous opportunity to take a couple of well regarded college lineman that had fallen in the draft yet passed.

UsualSuspects 08-29-2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6014210)
Well it was pretty obvious upgrading the line wasn't put in as a prime thing to do.

It probably should have been the same as you don't set up top 5 picks to fail at QB you shouldn't set up a guy you traded for and paid to fail.

I call BS.

They always upgrade usually. Not all at once? **** it then. And true fans are impatient.

Loser, call everyone else out but you was different? Guess not. Just call as I see.


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