Cali Wildfires
 

Tiny, Dane, and Lohan everything ok?








http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...40804320090830


* About 2,000 homes under mandatory evacuation orders
* Governor Schwarzenegger says fire "out of control"

* Fire 5 percent contained, 10,000 homes threatened

* Fire threatens major communications facilities (Updates with quotes from residents, new numbers)

By Mary Milliken

LA CANADA FLINTRIDGE, Calif., Aug 30 (Reuters) - A wildfire in the heavily populated Los Angeles foothills threatened 10,000 homes on Sunday, and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger warned residents to heed evacuation orders for the "out of control" and "very dangerous" blaze.

The heat-driven fire nearly doubled in size overnight and has now burned 35,000 acres (14,000 hectares) of thick, bone-dry brush in the mountains above five towns, a 12-mile (19 km) stretch from La Crescenta to La Canada Flintridge, the California Fire Department said.

Authorities have ordered residents to evacuate about 2,000 homes threatened by the fire about 15 miles (24 km) northeast of downtown Los Angeles.

"These fires are still totally out of control," Schwarzenegger told reporters at the firefighters' command post in Lake View Terrace, California. "This is a huge and is a very dangerous fire. The fire is moving very close to homes and to structures... this is why it's important to pay close attention to the evacuation."

In La Crescenta, the streets were deserted on Sunday afternoon except for a few residents fleeing with their suitcases and other belongings on foot.

Bob Sebesta, 47, sat watching the burning ridge from his in-laws' house, which everyone evacuated last night with pictures, paperwork and "stuff you can't replace."

"I keep thinking I should go water the backyard," Sebesta said.

Three remote homes have been destroyed so far and some 10,000 others and 2,500 other buildings are in danger, as is Mount Wilson, the nexus for key telecommunications facilities.

"That site is the nerve center for most of communication in the Los Angeles area," Station Fire Commander Mike Dietrich said. "It is not out of danger as we speak."

Fire commanders said at a news briefing that more than three homes were lost in the Big Tujunga canyon, though they did not know the exact number.

"We have eyewitness reports that our house is gone and as many as 30 may be lost," said Beth Halaas, who lives year-round in the canyon, where most homes are for weekend use. Continued...

I can see the orange glow of the fires from my house, but anyone in the LA Basin (which I think includes Dane) should be fine. Nasty stuff.

i guess some of the new ps3's have been shorting out causing the fires

The air quality is horrendous but we're far from the fires.

Unfortunately, two LA firefighters lost their lives yesterday battling the blaze.

RIP.

The air quality in many parts of the state is unbelievably bad. Bar none, wild fires are the scariest of all the natural disasters in my view.

That shit was sad. Their ****ing truck just rolled down the hill.

One of those firefighters lives up here in the Antelope Valley. His wife was 3 weeks away from giving birth. It's just horrible.

It is with our deepest regret to inform you the media of the Line Of Duty Deaths for Fire Captain Tedmund "Ted" Hall and Firefighter Specialist Arnaldo "Arnie" Quinones. These two members tragically lost their lives when the where overran by a fast moving fire which approached Fire Camp 16 on the "Station Fire" Incident.

Fire Captain Tedmund "Ted" Hall was 47 years of age and was a member of the Los Angeles County Fire Department for 26 years and lived in San Bernardino County, California. Firefighter Specialist Arnaldo "Arnie" Quinones was 35 years of Age, and was a member of the Los Angeles County Fire department for 8 years and lived in Palmdale, California.

Funeral arrangements are pending and information relating to services will be made available in the near future.

:(

The thing is going to burn like a mother ****er for a while.

Lots of fuel, good fire conditions, and not a gat damn thing anyone can do about it (except dig line around structures and deploy tankers).

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/9348/

This is one of the "favorite side effects" of Algore's fraud. The surface of the US has not warmed at all since 1934, or 40 years before the Global COOLING fraud of the 1970s.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=


Since The FRAUD of Global non-Warming sukks up over $5 bil per year from US Federal taxdollars alone for liars to "study" something clearly not happening - there is precisely no evidence of "warming" at all on planet Earth except on the surface of growing urban areas - there is NOT MONEY for desalination. Every additional Californian steals that much more fresh water from plants and wildlife. The result is dry plant "fuel" for these fires, and another chance for Algore to go out and stick his mug on TV and lie to us again, essentially celebrating this fire catastrophe by intentionally misdiagnosing the problem and preventing funding for the real solution, which is to leave the water in the acquifers, streams, lakes etc. and take ocean water and desalinate it. Many who have been caught starting these fires are from "environmental" groups, or really taxpayer leech groups dedicated to lying to us to continue to steal our money over this "warming" fraud.

You saying the ceanothus, chamise, scrub oak and manzanita wouldn't burn if folks didn't water their lawns and wash their cars from freshwater sources? LMAO

The excess fuel is from fire suppression efforts of the last several hundred years.

The estimated containment date is September 8th, weather cooperating.

Are you attempting to deny that human consumption of fresh water is somehow not related to these fires?

There have always been fires out there. There just have been more as the population of California has exploded, triggering an equally great increase in human fresh water consumption straight from nature.

Amazingly, Denver was "overcast" today from the smoke from this fire. It must be massive.

Good luck, California.

man that sucks-those guys have it tough

RIP

took these from my roof.
West LA, some 40 miles away. Other than the giant plume, not a cloud in the sky....

pretty scary chit

Keep safe Cali,

RIP to those firefighters.

Stay Safe Fellas. Thoughts and Prayers to all that have lost their lives.

You are a dumbass.

pyro-****in'-nimbus

SSDY

suck it, n00b

An obvious product from the public school system, and the tax payers want their money back.

He's trying to convey the story behind "Cadillac Desert." At least that's my perspective of his argument.

The great American west migration wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for the building of myriads of dams. These irrigation projects made it possible to farm in the West, but also came with environmental complexities and devastation.

I've read the book, it's a good read. Based on his comments, I think he's referring to the same book.

"Chinatown" is all about the water struggle in Los Angeles.

Part of that is right behind me: Lake Hollywood, built in 1932 and designed as part of the Mulholland Aqueduct system. It's actually a reservoir, not a lake.

Mulholland should be considered a hero to all of us in Southern California.

Except for when he killed 500 people in the Santa Clara damn disaster when it failed just hours after opening, effectively ending his career.

Yeah well you win some and you lose some.

No one washes their car in their driveway. We all go to car washes that are $9.99. It's waste of water to do it at home.

As for the lawn, occasionally they'll ask that you limit your usage but more likely, they'll just control the water pressure.

So far this year, I've seen no such control.

screw um. if they didnt want wildfires they shouldnt live there. commies

We've had DWP restrictions for months. Automatic sprinklers can only be used on Monday and Wednesday and not from 9 am to 4 pm.

Really?

I didn't get that note, nor have I had any water restrictions.

Probably because I'm in a fire zone and they want to keep us watered.

i tell u right now tho, ive been running the a/c nonstop since thursday, my electric bill is gonna be delivered by a ups truck

Over 100 K acres now.

If the national wildland fire prep level bumps up to three (it is holding at two - three weeks ago it was a three, but activity in WA and AK has died down), I may be paying you LA planeteers a visit.

Are there many folks bitching about the fire in Yosemite? The prescribed fire that went wild.

One of the "restrictions" we've been subjected to is tiered pricing, where they stick huge fees on if you don't conserve 15% a month. It's not a restriction per say, but it is noticeable.

So much for my visiting-Dane-Eva-Longoria-car-wash fantasy. :(

Ok, the prep level is at three as of late last night.

Call out list, here I come.

Yup, they told us about that. You can use as much as you want, but they'll charge you an assload for it.

In that case, PM me, Bro.

We'll be in San Diego for the Holiday weekend but otherwise, I'll be around.

Be safe.

120,000+ acres now. Wow, this bastard is ripping through those 40 year old fuels. They've got nearly 4,000 personnel assigned. There were no improvements overnight because the RH is staying low and the wind is sustained.

Apparently, they are experiencing some nasty spotting (not that kind of spotting - flaming fuel flying in the wind and igniting new spot fires) which is very dangerous.

Thanks man.

Honestly, when I get the call I'll be whisked away and flown out on a transport plane (comfy ride, right :D). The 16 hour days don't allow for trips into the city, unforunately.

They still have the containment date set at Sept. 8th. I expect the percent contained number (it's at 5% now) to rise in the next few days. Smokejumpers are actively conducting burnout operations that create areas of unburnable fuel and hopefully stop the spread, but with the long distance spotting going on, other fires could start. Hopefully the weather starts to cooperate.

New law = mandatory stone exterior housing that is fire insulating.

Containment date has been pushed back a week. Bad news.

Well if you do come down to help, thanks a lot. I know it's a really tough job, and we are all thankful. Well all of us except for the dumb ass people who ignore mandatory evacs. and then cry out for help and put people in danger.

Good noose guise.

The morning update:

Containment is at 22% with a total of a little over 140,000 acres burnt.

They also added two more incident commanders.

How big is this fire compared to the one in San Diego in 2007 or 2003?

Right now, the Station fire is half the size of the big 2003 San Diego county fire (280,000+). That fire was the biggest since 1889.

There were three large fires in San Diego county in 2007. The biggest one was just under 200,000 acres, the middle one was about 90,000, and the smallest was 50,000 or so.

Damn. Thats still pretty huge, considering that Los Angeles is much more densely populated than San Diego.

Hopefully it gets put out soon.

Would Rain help the situation right now or cause bad mudslides?

The concern ATM is that thunderstorms will cause unpredictable winds. When crews dig fireline they install channels that work to prevent erosion, but there is only so much that can be done. If the vegetation is completely burnt out, mudslides will happen.

Rehab is a huge part of the operation and is taking place as speak we at containment areas. Rehab and mopup are very tedious. A crew will line up and pace an area looking for hot spots. When one is found, the entire line stops while the smoldering log, the torched tree, etc are put out/cut down. They also have to rehab every foot of fireline they installed - miles upon miles of hand dug or dozer dug line. :)

If you aren't familiar with acre measurements, about 1.1 acres fit in a football field.