Will the Chiefs beat the Raiders this weekend?
 

Will the Chiefs beat the Raiders this weekend?

Yes. Russell looks TERRIBAD.

After watching them run the ball I'm gonna lean to no...not to mention no one on our god damn team will be able to cover Zack Miller.

no we can't stop the run and the te thats what the raiders do

damnit mecca!

Yes

Meh, stack 9 men in the box and force Russell to beat you. He can't. It's the same strategy teams used against us during the Herm years.

It's not as though we'll be playing against Joe Flacco.

I'll bet against Mecca any day of the week. :D

San Diego who has better players than we do is stacking the box and they're still running it...

" If you lose to the Raiders they kick you out of the league, Peg."

They also don't look like they're even trying. They're getting blown off the ball, and that can't be because of superior offensive Oakland talent.

I don't know that we know that yet. Baltimore has one of the best run offenses in the league. And I dont' think the run defense really struggled until later in the second half, when they were really gassed.

Oakland's looked really impressive so far on the ground. But I'm not that worried about our ability to stop the run. I'm worried about the fact that every QB we'll face will have 10 seconds to throw the ball.

The Raiders OL is a very good run blocking line.

You could give Russell 3 minutes to find an open receiver, and he'd still find a way to **** it up.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you. I'm just saying there are other factors playing into this right now.

There were a lot of posts about how meh-shitty Flacco was prior to the Ravens game, too.

The difference is that Flacco isn't that bad. JaMarcus is worse than advertised. He has made zero improvement since he started playing in the NFL.

Most QBs in the league can look pretty decent dumping it underneath and to the TE.

They're going to run for over 250 yards on us.

We lose.

Cassel may get 60 yards on the ground though

As long as he can execute the gameplan, he can do fine. Russell can't do much right except hand the ball off.

Of course, that may be all he NEEDS to do to beat us. That doesn't make him a good QB, though. Just makes him good enough to beat us, which doesn't take much.

The Raiders are just a bad matchup for the Chiefs...Bowe is taken away by Asomugha...they can run the ball.

Everything they do well either exploits the thing the Chiefs are the worst at or takes away something they have.

The Raiders will beat the Chiefs this weekend!
 

I hate to say it, but the Chiefs will lose to the Raiders this weekend. After watching MNF, the Raiders are going to run all over the Chiefs defense. The Chiefs will not be able to stop the run. I also don't think the Chiefs will be able to run against the Raiders. Also, Zach Miller will shred the Chiefs secondary just as Todd Heap did yesterday. It's going to be another bad week...:cuss::#:banghead::deevee::mad::grr::(

This is hyperbolic.

Russell looked good to close last year, did you see thier game with tampa?

He played well.

assuming jamarcus russell is still the starting QB, i would say the chiefs will win.

I went with no, based on one first down for two quarters of football or whatever you want to call it.

our best shot is JeMarcus making two or three unforced errors...

I'm leaning towards no.

The Raiders are going to get McFadden matched up against Vrabel and Hali and dump him the ball at some point.

Ugly.

they have targeted him ONE time in the passing game tonight...makes no sense.

The other day I was reading the responses from when you posted the same thing last year....

The Raiders' Run Offense looks pretty decent. But Baltimore's run offense is a shitload better than Oakland.

I sure hope so.

not if both teams play the way they did this week

I will wait until later in the week to make a prediction but I think we have a good chance.

The Raiders are playing late tonight and will have a short week after coming off a very physical game that favors us.

Yeah, no.

For once I agree with you. Their strengths match up to our weaknesses.

San Diego was not good at stopping the run last year

before this game I thought we had a good shot but I'm thinking no now
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I'm much less certain of my "yes" answer now than I was before this game started. The Raiders have a good ground game and are learning how to be semi-functional as an offense with a semi-reeruned QB.

That said, I just don't think that what they're doing with some effect tonight should work against a well-coached team. You put Flowers on their TE (assuming he returns), stack the box with angry, motivated, embarrassed defenders, and tell them "go ahead and beat us with your WR's."

On offense, I think we can have success going away from Seymour, setting up some of the naked bootlegs that we ran against Minny in the preseason.

Obviously if our O-line doesn't do an adequate job of establishing a run, it won't matter. But I think we'll get it done.

We are going to have to play possesion pass by throwing to Bowe and letting him use his body to block out defenders. That means quick passes though, like slants and stuff. We can't let Cassell hold the ball or the Raiders line will kill us

That's one thing I didn't understand...with the smaller corners Baltimore has, why we didn't do some of those quick hitters and just let him stiff-arm his way down the field. Were they doing things to take that away?

Uh dude, they're going to put Asomugha on Bowe, you know the best ****ing CB in the league, how you gonna throw to him?

We gonna win.
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I'm gonna say KC wins because Russell is so crappy. He kills their O.

I don't know if they will win, but the Chiefs should win, because the Raiders are still the Raiders until they prove otherwise. They could dominate all game and still find a creative new way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Although the Chiefs are also the Chiefs, which means it may well be a battle of attrition to see who can hand the other team the game.

Unfortunately, this is pretty much what I'm expecting. I don't really think we can stop the Raiders from running it down our throats. Still, I think we can eke out a close win :)

Sadly, I'm in agreement with everybody who said that the Raiders are going to run all over us and Zach Miller should kill us as well.

Also, I will be surprised if we play as mistake-free as we did against Baltimore. That seemed like a fluke.

its gonna be close, but i think the raiders will choke like they did tonight

It's a winnable game. Russell still didn't even complete half his passes, and their defense left a lot of stuff there in the middle of the field. Yeah they looked better than last year but what's that really saying. Being impressed by what the Raiders did tonight yet thinking we didn't do anything positive yesterday, you're nuts.

It's a winnable game sure, but I recall a couple weeks ago when that was acted as though it was an easy win.

Russell looked something better than terrible when he was throwing to the middle of the field, which is our weakness. Oakland can also run the ball which plays against our NT and LB.

The whole middle of our D, from NT to S is suspect.

Biggest thing working against Oakland is the short week.

Probably not, but maybe. We looked bad last week. Sometimes the score is not an indication. Oakland looked alot better from what I saw in the second half of this game. I predict 20-17 Raiders while I look on from my club seats crying. I'm just going to see drunk Raider fans fall down from the steps down the upper level on my binoculars and see a bunch of people get booted out for fighting.

I believe Haley will watch the film and find a weakness in the seemingly impenetrable fortress known as the Raiders D.

LOL, yeah. No.

I believe the Chiefs will win this week if we get both Cassel and Flowers back.
Home game. Crowd will be fired up for the first game of the Pioli/Haley era in the renovated stadium. They'll be jacked up!!!

I hope the crowd is fired up.

Come on. It's Raider week!!! They'll be fired up!!!

The Chargers went out and played 3 and half quarters of mostly terrible football and the Raiders could barely get out of their own way to score points. I don't really expect them to play any less sloppy coming off a short week to a road game.

Considering they have nothing else besides Zack Miller, they can bracket him with DJ and Brown or Page.

I think the Chiefs can pull this one out at home.... especially since Russell won't be killing the Chiefs downfield like Flacco did.

Well, if the 'Chargers' can't do it, no one can.

Raiders will have a short week, the Chiefs looked pretty good against the run early, and the Chiefs have last week on film.

The Chiefs should fare better against the run than the Chargers did.

BTW: The guy that was supposed to help elevate the defense, Shawn Merriman, just doesn't look the same. I know he is coming off an injury, but Tamba Hali looked better against the Ravens than Merriman did against the Raiders.

If he is the best CB in the league, then the league has taken a step backwards.

Don't get me wrong, a very good corner, but the guy has two int's in the last two years. He has 20 passes defensed over that time. That is not a good ratio.

You may not complete it to his side, but chances are it won't get picked off.

He is a very good all around corner, but I am not scared of throwing to his side like I would be against Sanders, Bailey or Rod Woodson in his prime.

I doubt it.

I wasn't impressed at all with KC against the Ravens.

LMAO

As a chiefs fan, gigantus russell doesn't scare me.

Wow, you know, I didn't expect a Raider fan to be objective Asamougha.

we'll lose by 40
won't score more than 6
and get our QB killed


just as predicted last week

They're still the ****ing Raiders. Until they can prove to the world they won't self destruct. I won't take them seriously. There has been year after year of evidence.

This is my reason for voting affirmative.

Russell just can't deliver the ball consistently to wide open receivers.

No. Our run D is ass and their defensive front 7 looked ferocious. Plus they played like they had an attitude that we're still trying to find.

If you have Zack Miller on your fantasy team, be sure to start him. :banghead:

(I hate that fugger :cuss: )

We'll see. No win is going to be easy for either of those teams this year.

All 50,000 of them?

There are still kick-ass seats available on Ticketmaster.

Not sure how this one is going to get past the blackout rules, personally.

Yep, year after year.

Like 2007 and 2008, where they came into Arrowhead and kicked our ass?

Yes .. why .. Faiders will run the ball .. think our D will game plan for that .. Faiders coming off short week .. our O with Cassel should be able to score .. hopefully Flowers will play .......

Ya think maybe his stats look low because QBs don't like to throw in his vicinity?

You and I have not talked much. Those who know me will tell you I am no homer. IMO he is the best CB in the NFL and second is distant. He has very low numbers because QBs are smart enough not to throw his way. I hope whoever starts for KC decides to throw at him often.

Here is the problem with your theory. He has 20 passes defensed over the last two years. He has had 20 chances to pick off the ball.

None of the great ones have that poor of a ratio of passes defensed to interceptions over any two year span, especially int he prime of their career.

Come on guys, support your team.

Do you really think the Raiders are going to be as physical with the Chiefs as they were for there OWN Home Opener on MNF? I'm pretty sure the Arrowhead fans won't be feeding the fade that kind of energy.

Russell will lose the game on his own. He is terrible. And the Chiefs run D didn't look nearly as bad against the Ravens as some of you like to believe.

Did any of you pay attention to how BAD the Chargers were? Im sure that had a lot to do with why the Raiders looked OK. The Chargers looked soft and overweight. The Raiders looked poorly conditioned. There Skinny ass speedster Wr's were trying to catch there breath after every play. Russell looks like a complete idiot out there, his facial expressions say it all. Anyone catch him slouching to the side on the bench during the Chargers final drive? Dude is awful.

I am slightly worried about Michael Bush and Zach Miller, they will get some nice plays on us, but not enough to make up for the Herm Edwards like play calling. And the defensive scheme is so ****ing vanilla and predictable, Haley will kill himself if he can't find a scheme to beat that D.

We're going to be alright. They will get some decent runs on us, but not enough to sustain long drives, and god knows how many picks fatass will throw. Our D may not be great, but they were not blowing assignments all over the field this weekend like the Chargers were