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AZChief 09-15-2009 12:52 PM

Hank Baskett released....
 
Adam_SchefterEagles have taken Michael Vick off exempt list and he will begin practicing Wednesday. To make room for him, team released Hank Baskett.

He'd be worth a look...

Brock 09-15-2009 12:54 PM

Yep, might as well.

Gonzo 09-15-2009 12:54 PM

Is he better than Wade or about the same?

I know nothing of either really except that Wade had a decent year for a slot guy in 08.

Sofa King 09-15-2009 12:55 PM

not if he brings that reerun girlfriend of his...

teedubya 09-15-2009 12:55 PM

Yes!! bring his reerun girlfriend of his!!

The Franchise 09-15-2009 12:56 PM

Bring him in. He's better than Engram and Wade can play the slot.

doomy3 09-15-2009 12:56 PM

Glad we didn't waste a draft pick on him.

CaliforniaChief 09-15-2009 12:57 PM

If Baskett + Wade is better than Engram + Copper why not?

Sure-Oz 09-15-2009 12:57 PM

definetly bring him in for a look

Chief Faithful 09-15-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6075461)
If Baskett + Wade is better than Engram + Copper why not?

:thumb:

Gonzo 09-15-2009 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 6075448)
not if he brings that reerun girlfriend of his...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6075450)
Yes!! bring his reerun girlfriend of his!!

His girlfriend it a retart...

Bring him in!

Pitt Gorilla 09-15-2009 12:59 PM

I liked him out of college. I don't have a clue about him as a pro.

CoMoChief 09-15-2009 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 6075448)
not if he brings that reerun girlfriend of his...

I know.....that would REALLY ruin this football team wouldnt it? :spock:

CoMoChief 09-15-2009 01:00 PM

She can be a cheerleader. Shes better than anything KC has had on their cheerleading roster. including Trisha

Sofa King 09-15-2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6075471)
I know.....that would REALLY ruin this football team wouldnt it? :spock:

the second she started speaking, it very well could...

Sofa King 09-15-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6075474)
She can be a cheerleader. Shes better than anything KC has had on their cheerleading roster. including Trisha

she wouldnt look good cheering for the chiefs in one of her chargers jerseys..



http://beargoggleson.com/files/2009/...onchargers.jpg

bevischief 09-15-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6075450)
Yes!! bring his reerun girlfriend of his!!

Worthless without pics.

Kylo Ren 09-15-2009 01:02 PM

Kendra and Croyle's wife both at Arrowhead? :thumb:

bevischief 09-15-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 6075481)
Kendra and Croyle's wife........ girl / girl action....... :drool:

We need more of this.

:drool::drool:

HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:05 PM

all i know is that he is bigger than b.wade by 6-7 inches. he wasnt worth a draft pick, but he is worth bringing in off of waivers. h.baskett = m.bradley, except maybe baskett will know the difference between running a route for a first down, and cutting it off short to make the grab. i could definately see haley releasing him for that one rookie mistake.

And who cares about his girlfriend shes a chargers fan, so you know she's reeruned, lol.

Kylo Ren 09-15-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy369 (Post 6075486)
We need more of this.

:drool::drool:

Pervert! :shake:

KcKing 09-15-2009 01:08 PM

He's been in the league a few years right? How long does a person have to be in the league to make the difference between being placed on waivers or being able to be a free agent?
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Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 6075496)
Pervert! :shake:

homo

Buehler445 09-15-2009 01:08 PM

Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
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Kylo Ren 09-15-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075493)
all i know is that he is bigger than b.wade by 6-7 inches. he wasnt worth a draft pick, but he is worth bringing in off of waivers. h.baskett = m.bradley, except maybe baskett will know the difference between running a route for a first down, and cutting it off short to make the grab. i could definately see haley releasing him for that one rookie mistake.

And who cares about his girlfriend shes a chargers fan, so you know she's reeruned, lol.

Kennison was picked up after the season started. Bradley was picked up after the season started. So, there's a chance that he could be productive.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcKing (Post 6075503)
He's been in the league a few years right? How long does a person have to be in the league to make the difference between being placed on waivers or being able to be a free agent?
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Four, i think.

this is his forth year so i think he still has to go through waivers, which is good for us.

Kylo Ren 09-15-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075504)
homosapien

FYP

nychief 09-15-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 6075506)
Kennison was picked up after the season started. Bradley was picked up after the season started. So, there's a chance that he could be productive.

Kennison was picked up during the season... after he quit on the Broncos.

Mr. Arrowhead 09-15-2009 01:10 PM

our cheerleaders need a big upgrade

Kylo Ren 09-15-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6075505)
Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
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Wrong thread. But, I hope we do.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6075505)
Does this mean they signed Runyon?...:(
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No, it means they took Vick off the exemption list so he could practice with the team or something.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 6075513)
Wrong thread. But, I hope they do.

you hope they sign Runyan so we won't?

Buehler445 09-15-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075514)
No, it means they took Vick off the exemption list so he could practice with the team or something.

Thank you, Laz.

John, I meant the Iggles dude. My question was who did the Iggles add that they needed make room?
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HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:18 PM

Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Engram
4. T.Copper
5. Q.Lawrence
Pr.Squad. R.Wright
INJ. Res. D.Darling

MVChiefFan 09-15-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075535)
Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Engram
4. T.Copper
5. Q.Lawrence
Pr.Squad. R.Wright
INJ. Res. D.Darling

?

HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:24 PM

With the addition of Wade
Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Wade
4. B. Engram
5. T.Copper

i think that baskett could at least compete for the #2 Wr on our squad if we sign him, that would give cassel two big targets to throw to bowe 6'2", baskett 6'4". i do think that we need to try for a trade to land a WR before the trade deadline or does someone see a huge WR threat coming outta college next year that we might have a shot at getting?

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 01:26 PM

I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 6075548)
?

this is what our depth chart looked like for last weeks game vs. the ravens. or did ya miss it?Al Davis

Buehler445 09-15-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075554)
With the addition of Wade
Starting WR's
1. D.Bowe
2. M.Bradley
3. B.Wade
4. B. Engram
5. T.Copper

i think that baskett could at least compete for the #2 Wr on our squad if we sign him, that would give cassel two big targets to throw to bowe 6'2", baskett 6'4". i do think that we need to try for a trade to land a WR before the trade deadline or does someone see a huge WR threat coming outta college next year that we might have a shot at getting?

I'd rather keep Lawrence than Copper. The upside is a lot higher. And by a lot, I mean infinitely.
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Buehler445 09-15-2009 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075563)
I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

I haven't looked, but aren't they pretty deep at WR? They spent like 900 high first rounders on them.
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Hoover 09-15-2009 01:36 PM

His wife is a Charger fan, so he will not work for us...

HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:53 PM

Q.Lawrence is ok, but he is small, wade is small, and engram is small. we need to get away from the little WR's that cant take a hit. Lawrence is a rookie trying to do what wade and engram have made careers out of. He needs to go to our practice squad and then we could release r.wright, after a yr or two on the practice squad his talents will be a little more polished, but no doubt he has some raw potential.

HotRoute 09-15-2009 01:53 PM

and on our TE's . . . . wth ever happen to Brad Cottam?? wasnt he looked to as Tony Gonzalez's replacement after we traded him to ATL? now he's not even mentioned. sorry but i wasnt impressed by s.ryan or maybe i'm just use to watching a HOF TE every weekend for the last 10 years.

Brock 09-15-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075660)
and on our TE's . . . . wth ever happen to Brad Cottam?? wasnt he looked to as Tony Gonzalez's replacement after we traded him to ATL? now he's not even mentioned. sorry but i wasnt impressed by s.ryan or maybe i'm just use to watching a HOF TE every weekend for the last 10 years.

Cottam was discovered to suck. But there's really no need to replace Tony Gonzalez with another TE, in fact I'd say that's a mistake.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6075587)
I haven't looked, but aren't they pretty deep at WR? They spent like 900 high first rounders on them.
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He's the head coach of the Rams now.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6075582)
I'd rather keep Lawrence than Copper. The upside is a lot higher. And by a lot, I mean infinitely.
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Absolutely.

Who in their right mind would suggest keeping Copper, a 28 year-old never was, over a speedy rookie?

Micjones 09-15-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075563)
I'm betting that Spagnoulo claims Baskett.

Spags was in Philly before NY and knows him.

I thought about that earlier.
The Rams are the only team that would stand in our way.
That said, they should still put a claim in.

Buehler445 09-15-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075676)
He's the head coach of the Rams now.

Jesus ****ing Christ I'm reeruned.

Thanks for lining me out.

I should make myself an antifreeze cocktail.
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Buehler445 09-15-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075655)
Q.Lawrence is ok, but he is small, wade is small, and engram is small. we need to get away from the little WR's that cant take a hit . Lawrence is a rookie trying to do what wade and engram have made careers out of. He needs to go to our practice squad and then we could release r.wright, after a yr or two on the practice squad his talents will be a little more polished, but no doubt he has some raw potential.

You're worng. We need speed. Engram is slow as balls. He makes a living on precise routes and catching the ball.

We need Lawrence to pull his head out, play within himself and stretch the field.
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The Bad Guy 09-15-2009 02:05 PM

Why are all of you so quick to throw out Engram? He is probably the best route runner we have with the surest hands.

If we sign Basket, cut Lawerence and hopefully he makes it on the practice squad.

Micjones 09-15-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6075706)
You're worng. We need speed. Engram is slow as balls. He makes a living on precise routes and catching the ball.

We need Lawrence to pull his head out, play within himself and stretch the field.
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Lawrence gets a 2-year pass from me based on his skillset alone.

DeezNutz 09-15-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6075717)
Why are all of you so quick to throw out Engram? He is probably the best route runner we have with the surest hands.

If we sign Basket, cut Lawerence and hopefully he makes it on the practice squad.

We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Micjones 09-15-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6075730)
We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Darling can be excused. Lawrence has lots of upside.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6075730)
We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Yeah, exactly.

If Haley sees enough for him to initially make the squad over guys like Lelie & Toomer, he's a keeper.

Just look at former 5th rounder Steve Breaston in his second season.

1,000 yards plus with Fitzgerald & Boldin.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6075733)
Darling can be excused. Lawrence has lots of upside.

Darling's on IR and doesn't count in the 53 man roster

Micjones 09-15-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075742)
Darling's on IR and doesn't count in the 53 man roster

Is he? I had no idea...

In that case... So long Terrance.

Gravedigger 09-15-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 6075450)
Yes!! bring his reerun girlfriend of his!!

LOL, Yeah she's reeruned... reeruned hot!

In the words of Dave Attell, "They say she's reeruned, but those titties ain't reeruned!"

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6075751)
Is he? I had no idea...

In that case... So long Terrance.

I think Copper's gone with the signing of Bobby Wade

HotRoute 09-15-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6075730)
We have to be really careful when cutting our young players because so many teams are looking to sign them.

Are ya sure about that. I'm pretty sure i read a stat recently that went something like we've cut/traded 30 players so far this season and the only 2 to get picked up were Tony G [ATL] and J.Babin [PHI]. So i dont think many teams are waiting for any KC players to hit the waiver wire. not even pollard, which was a surprise to me

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075822)
Are ya sure about that. I'm pretty sure i read a stat recently that went something like we've cut/traded 30 players so far this season and the only 2 to get picked up were Tony G [ATL] and J.Babin [PHI]. So i dont think many teams are waiting for any KC players to hit the waiver wire. not even pollard, which was a surprise to me

Yet people scoffed when I've said for the last two years that the Chiefs have had the most untalented roster in the NFL.

Go figure.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 02:39 PM

I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075862)
I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

The Raiders. Speed Speed and More Speed

HotRoute 09-15-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075827)
Yet people scoffed when I've said for the last two years that the Chiefs have had the most untalented roster in the NFL.
Go figure.

i dont know if i'd agree with that. . . we did have some good talent over that span. Its just when you have terrible coaching it can make players seem less talented then they really are. but i think we were definately in the top 3.

i think the least talented was the lions hands down, they had a decent coach but their players were just awful last year.

if i remember right we were at least in the lead until halftime in most of our losses. which tells me we just made poor mid-game adjustments, which means 14 losses a season.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075947)
i dont know if i'd agree with that. . . we did have some good talent over that span.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

The Chiefs have gotten rid of more than 30 players this year. Only TWO are currently on an NFL roster: Gonzalez and Babin.

If that doesn't tell you that this team's roster completely sucked (sucks) ass, nothing will.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075862)
I don't see anyone claiming Lawrence if we cut him. The only reason he made our team is because we might have the worst WR corp in the league and don't have an overall talent level that meant we couldn't waste a spot for him. Just cut him and move him the Practice squad and let him learn there.

Dude, he's too fast and has way too much upside to try and sneak him through waivers.

If the Chiefs get Baskett (or another free agent receiver), Copper or Engram will be the next to go.

HotRoute 09-15-2009 02:57 PM

The Raiders looked like they drafted some decent WR's this year, or maybe the chargers are just wayyyyyyyyyy overRATED. and lawrence isnt 4.2 fast, which is what gives Al "the evil emperor" Davis a boner, other than his viagra perscription.

DumbHillbillies 09-15-2009 03:00 PM

Yes, bring her in.... I mean him in.

HotRoute 09-15-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075953)
GIVE ME A BREAK.

If that doesn't tell you that this team's roster completely sucked (sucks) ass, nothing will.

so your going to tell me T.Gonzalez, D.Bowe, B.Waters, L.Johnson, B.Carr, B.Flowers, J.Page, D.Johnson, D. Colquitt, D. Edwards, T. Law, P.Surtain, J. Allen, C.Wiegman, P.Holmes/K.Turley [on IR] were no better then what the lions or raiders have been playing with over the last 2 years?

you sir , can give me a break, lol.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6075994)
so your going to tell me T.Gonzalez, D.Bowe, B.Waters, L.Johnson, B.Carr, B.Flowers, J.Page, D.Johnson, D. Colquitt, D. Edwards, T. Law, P.Surtain, J. Allen, C.Wiegman, P.Holmes/K.Turley [on IR] were no better then what the lions or raiders have been playing with over the last 2 years?

you sir , can give me a break, lol.

Urine idiot.

The Detroit Lions were 7-9 in 2007. The Raiders were the same as the Chiefs, 4-12.

Last year, all three teams sucked ass but the Lions and Raiders definitely had more talent on their respective teams than did the Chiefs at the beginning of 2009.

Micjones 09-15-2009 03:45 PM

We just might have a shot at Baskett.
It's been reported that David Tyree was worked out by the Rams today.

htismaqe 09-15-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076025)
Urine idiot.

The Detroit Lions were 7-9 in 2007. The Raiders were the same as the Chiefs, 4-12.

Last year, all three teams sucked ass but the Lions and Raiders definitely had more talent on their respective teams than did the Chiefs at the beginning of 2009.

I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

OnTheWarpath15 09-15-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6076171)
I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

Great post.

Micjones 09-15-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6076171)
I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

I think there can be a further distinction between talent and athleticism can be made.

We have several physically gifted players who do not translate that into productivity on the field.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6076196)
I think there can be a further distinction between talent and athleticism can be made.

We have several physically gifted players who do not translate that into productivity on the field.

Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

Brock 09-15-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076201)
Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

Derrick Johnson.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6076205)
Derrick Johnson.

After more than four seasons of watching Derrick Johnson, I think the guy was extremely overrated by scouts.

Maybe he's gifted athletically but the guy is just not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

Brock 09-15-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076233)
After more than four seasons of watching Derrick Johnson, I think the guy was extremely overrated by scouts.

Maybe he's gifted athletically but the guy is just not a football player.

He's a guy that plays football.

Whatever his problem is, he's a crazy athletic talent that should have been a third round pick.

keg in kc 09-15-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6076171)
I don't think people understand the effect of talent on performance and how it's interrelated with other performance factors like team chemistry, coaching, discipline, etc.

The Raiders and Lions are ABSOLUTELY more talented than the Chiefs. It's a measure of pure athleticism. It doesn't in any way mean they're a better football team, because it's not the sole determining factor in winning.

I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league. Their best team, which was the best team in the league that year, didn't even win the title, although I thought that was more a fluke than anything. We may never see another team that good in our lifetime.

Anyway, how many years running have the Chargers been the most talented team in the NFL? Unfortunately for them they're also consistently one of the most inconsistent teams in the NFL.

Micjones 09-15-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076201)
Like who? Besides Dorsey, who's playing out of position, I can't think of one.

Devard Darling before he was placed on IR.
That guy might be one of the most physically gifted WR's on this team and that never amounted to much on the field.

Derrick Johnson's another player... Though I'd argue that his biggest problem was being taken 15th overall.
He crumbles under the weight of expectations. If you forget where he was drafted... He's been a fairly productive LB.

Micjones 09-15-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6076244)
I know people hate bringing them up, but the Patriots' title teams were never the most talented teams in the league.

I'm not sure that I agree. They were never the most athletic team in the league, but they were always talented. They had guys who could flat play the game even if they weren't terribly fast or strong.


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