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aturnis 09-15-2009 02:41 PM

Turk McBride Gone....
 
Wade in.

Mr. Arrowhead 09-15-2009 02:41 PM

about time, nice pick Hermie and Carl

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 02:41 PM

wow, Lawrence has the lives of a cat.


Pierre Walters FTW!!!!!!!!

the Talking Can 09-15-2009 02:42 PM

upgrade

rockymtnchief 09-15-2009 02:42 PM

I had hopes for the guy when drafted. Bye.

BigChiefFan 09-15-2009 02:43 PM

That's the good thing about being a shitty team, almost everybody is expendable. I certainly didn't think it would be McBride, though.

Sofa King 09-15-2009 02:44 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../Byebyebye.jpg

The Franchise 09-15-2009 02:44 PM

Another 2nd round pick wasted....

Frazod 09-15-2009 02:44 PM

Another wasted pick. Good riddance and all, but damn that pisses me off. :banghead:

Chiefnj2 09-15-2009 02:44 PM

If Key Fox can find a place on a team, I'm sure McBride has a decent shot of getting picked up.

El Jefe 09-15-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6075890)
Another 2nd round pick wasted....

This

rad 09-15-2009 02:45 PM

Link?

KCUnited 09-15-2009 02:45 PM

Nick Wright just cut himself.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075880)
wow, Lawrence has the lives of a cat.


Pierre Walters FTW!!!!!!!!

No way Lawrence is cut, Dude.

NONE.

alpha_omega 09-15-2009 02:48 PM

Progress....it doesn't seem that long ago when we were talking about Turk, Tank, Tamba, and Trashed.

BigChiefFan 09-15-2009 02:48 PM

We just released a back-up for a starter. It's sucks he was a 2nd round pick, but the front office doesn't give a damn where you were selected, especially by a previous regime. They want production.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075912)
No way Lawrence is cut, Dude.

NONE.

Why, because he's shown so much? Just move him to the practice squad where he can get some work and move on.

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 02:49 PM

Im surprised he even made the team.

loochy 09-15-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6075929)
So much for Herm's no talent ass clown movement...

FYP

Tribal Warfare 09-15-2009 02:53 PM

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Tank and Turk show is finished

the Talking Can 09-15-2009 02:53 PM

two 2nds cut this year....what a waste (the picks, not the cuts)

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075923)
Why, because he's shown so much? Just move him to the practice squad where he can get some work and move on.

He won't make it through waivers.

Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Haley turned 5th rounder Steve Breaston into a 1,000 yard receiver his second season. And that was next to Fitzgerald and Boldin.

If Haley saw enough in Lawrence to keep him on the 53 man roster, he's going nowhere.

The next logical step would be to cut Copper (who's invisible) or Engram and that's only IF they claim someone like Baskett and get him.

The Poz 09-15-2009 02:54 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09...wr_bobby_wade/

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 6075929)
So much for Herm's youth movement...

The guy was a tweener DT/DE, not a 3-4 linebacker.

I'm surprised he even made the 53 man roster.

orange 09-15-2009 02:55 PM

They cut McBride for Wade? That doesn't seem to add up.

Are there more changes?

KCChiefsMan 09-15-2009 02:57 PM

good, more stink from Herm and Carl soaped up.

Monty 09-15-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6075936)
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Tank and Turk show is finished

Wasn't it Turk that was featured on Hard Knocks going out in the fields in RF in search of vegetables/crops in the fields there? Can't remember if it was Turk or Tank..... :hmmm:

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075938)
He won't make it through waivers.

Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Haley turned 5th rounder Steve Breaston into a 1,000 yard receiver his second season. And that was next to Fitzgerald and Boldin.

If Haley saw enough in Lawrence to keep him on the 53 man roster, he's going nowhere.

The next logical step would be to cut Copper (who's invisible) or Engram and that's only IF they claim someone like Baskett and get him.

It doesn't matter whether Haley sees something in him. It doesn't matter what Haley has done in the past with receivers. The only thing that matters is if ANOTHER TEAM saw something. Lawrence didn't do anything in preseason that would make him worth grabbing.

Haley can continue to work with Lawrence on the practice squad. As soon as Lawrence is as good as Steve Breaston then he can promote him to the regular roster.

Right now he's not good enough to play receive on a team with crap at the position. He's not dependable enough to return kicks/punts on a team with no returner. He's a waste of space.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075967)
It doesn't matter whether Haley sees something in him. It doesn't matter what Haley has done in the past with receivers. The only thing that matters is if ANOTHER TEAM saw something. Lawrence didn't do anything in preseason that would make him worth grabbing.

Haley can continue to work with Lawrence on the practice squad. As soon as Lawrence is as good as Steve Breaston then he can promote him to the regular roster.

Right now he's not good enough to play receive on a team with crap at the position. He's not dependable enough to return kicks/punts on a team with no returner. He's a waste of space.

Well, I fully disagree.

And to this point, so do Haley & Pioli.

Tribal Warfare 09-15-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty (Post 6075963)
Wasn't it Turk that was featured on Hard Knocks going out in the fields in RF in search of vegetables/crops in the fields there? Can't remember if it was Turk or Tank..... :hmmm:

That was Tank corn and peas

Monty 09-15-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6075971)
That was Tank corn and peas

Yes...thanks.

CaliforniaChief 09-15-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075938)
He won't make it through waivers.

Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Haley turned 5th rounder Steve Breaston into a 1,000 yard receiver his second season. And that was next to Fitzgerald and Boldin.

If Haley saw enough in Lawrence to keep him on the 53 man roster, he's going nowhere.

The next logical step would be to cut Copper (who's invisible) or Engram and that's only IF they claim someone like Baskett and get him.

100% agree with this. Copper especially...I mean, he couldn't even pick up a blocked punt in the end zone with nobody but Chiefs around him.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-15-2009 03:01 PM

Produce or kick rocks.

Titty Meat 09-15-2009 03:01 PM

Pre-season doesn't mean shit.

Dane would you really want the Chiefs to cut Engram? The guy is money on third downs. The next guy to logically be cut would be Copper, though the Chiefs have 4 Qb's, Thigpen should be released too.

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075943)
The guy was a tweener DT/DE, not a 3-4 linebacker.

I'm surprised he even made the 53 man roster.

This.

You know what Dane, Im not sure why people give you so much shit.

BigChiefFan 09-15-2009 03:02 PM

Carl must have the worst 2nd round picks of all-time. 2nd rounders are your bread and butter picks, that should translate into starters. I can't think of one 2nd rnd. pick on Carl's watch that amounted to squat. Hopefully, Pioli can turn that around.

DumbHillbillies 09-15-2009 03:03 PM

In retrospect, the writing was on the wall. No suprise.

Frosty 09-15-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6075983)
Carl must have the worst 2nd round picks of all-time. 2nd rounders are your bread and butter picks, that should translate into starters. I can't think of one 2nd rnd. pick on Carl's watch that amounted to squat. Hopefully, Pioli can turn that around.

Hopefully Flowers will break that trend.

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6075977)
Pre-season doesn't mean shit.

Dane would you really want the Chiefs to cut Engram? The guy is money on third downs. The next guy to logically be cut would be Copper, though the Chiefs have 4 Qb's, Thigpen should be released too.

Engram doesn't have it anymore, I wouldnt care if he were cut

Mr. Arrowhead 09-15-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6075983)
Carl must have the worst 2nd round picks of all-time. 2nd rounders are your bread and butter picks, that should translate into starters. I can't think of one 2nd rnd. pick on Carl's watch that amounted to squat. Hopefully, Pioli can turn that around.

His last one isnt bad in Brandon Flowers, but ur right other than that they all sucked

Halfcan 09-15-2009 03:05 PM

Turd is gone Tank is next.

wow if you look back at Herms draft record-it looks pretty horrible.

I thought he was suppose to be a talent guru or something.

The Krumrie slap text fails again. He should be kicked in the nuts.

DumbHillbillies 09-15-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6075977)
Pre-season doesn't mean shit.

Dane would you really want the Chiefs to cut Engram? The guy is money on third downs. The next guy to logically be cut would be Copper, though the Chiefs have 4 Qb's, Thigpen should be released too.

Guiterez(sp). At least thiggy can contribute with the wildcat.

keg in kc 09-15-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6075923)
Why, because he's shown so much? Just move him to the practice squad where he can get some work and move on.

Why would he get any more work on the scout team then he would as part of the regular roster? The only thing he'd get to do there is learn some semblence of their upcoming opponent's playbook every week.

The Franchise 09-15-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies (Post 6075991)
Guiterez(sp). At least thiggy can contribute with the wildcat.

I wish people would get this stupid Wildcat bullshit out of their heads.

DumbHillbillies 09-15-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6075990)
Turd is gone Tank is next.

wow if you look back at Herms draft record-it looks pretty horrible.

I thought he was suppose to be a talent guru or something.

The Krumrie slap text fails again. He should be kicked in the nuts.

Different scheme requires different players, Turk is no LB.

TinyEvel 09-15-2009 03:09 PM

So how do you see Wade fitting in? from the stats he doesn't look anything special :shrug:

less bad than what we currently have?

keg in kc 09-15-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6075990)
Turd is gone Tank is next.

Unless there's a better tackle floating around out there, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

The Franchise 09-15-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 6076000)
So how do you see Wade fitting in? from the stats he doesn't look anything special :shrug:

less bad than what we currently have?

Wide Receiver and Punt Returner

nychief 09-15-2009 03:10 PM

yet we still have 4 qbs on the roster.

kstater 09-15-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies (Post 6075991)
Guiterez(sp). At least thiggy can contribute with the wildcat.

If a player's only good enough to play in a gimmick, he's not good enough take up a roster spot.

kstater 09-15-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 6076000)
So how do you see Wade fitting in? from the stats he doesn't look anything special :shrug:

less bad than what we currently have?

He'll play the slot. He led Minnesota in receptions the last two years.

DumbHillbillies 09-15-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6075996)
I wish people would get this stupid Wildcat bullshit out of their heads.

Hey, I hear you but its a copycat league. Opposing teams have to take time out regular game planning just to focus on a couple of trick plays.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 6076000)
So how do you see Wade fitting in? from the stats he doesn't look anything special :shrug:

less bad than what we currently have?

He'll be a good receiver for the Chiefs. The Vikings are loaded at receiver, which is why he was cut.

I expect him to get around 500-600 yards in the next 15 games with 3TD's.

That averages out to a couple of catches a game for 30 to 40 yards.

wild1 09-15-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 6076000)
So how do you see Wade fitting in? from the stats he doesn't look anything special :shrug:

less bad than what we currently have?

what do you mean, with this roster he's a starter as soon as he gets acclimated to the offense.

cdcox 09-15-2009 03:16 PM

There are still 20 guys on this roster who have to figure that if they don't improve by the end of the season, they will be out of the NFL. These guys are playing for their paycheck from day one. Under this pressure, a very few of them might develop into something worthwhile. All Hail Haley.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 6076027)
There are still 20 guys on this roster who have to figure that if they don't improve by the end of the season, they will be out of the NFL. These guys are playing for their paycheck from day one. Under this pressure, a very few of them might develop into something worthwhile. All Hail Haley.

20?

I'd say about 49 guys.

The only guys in my opinion that are complete locks for 2010 are Dwayne Bowe, Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson and Brendon Flowers.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6075970)
Well, I fully disagree.

And to this point, so do Haley & Pioli.

Yep, apparently they do.

The Bad Guy 09-15-2009 03:20 PM

Good. Next up is Copper for Basket.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076037)
20?

I'd say about 49 guys.

The only guys in my opinion that are complete locks for 2010 are Dwayne Bowe, Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson and Brendon Flowers.

what about Lawrence, surely he's too valuable to cut. :fire:

KCChiefsMan 09-15-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6075983)
Carl must have the worst 2nd round picks of all-time. 2nd rounders are your bread and butter picks, that should translate into starters. I can't think of one 2nd rnd. pick on Carl's watch that amounted to squat. Hopefully, Pioli can turn that around.

ya, at least in the past 15 years or so almost all of our 2nd round picks have sucked. Flowers hopefully will end that curse if he can stay healthy.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6076041)
Good. Next up is Copper for Basket.

Man, I hope.

But I'm betting (as I said earlier) that Spags puts in a claim.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6076045)
what about Lawrence, surely he's too valuable to cut. :fire:

LMAO

Direckshun 09-15-2009 03:27 PM

QB: Cassel, Croyle, Thigpen, Gutierrez
RB: Johnson, Charles, Battle, Savage
FB: Cox

WR: Bowe, Bradley, Engram, Copper, Lawrence, Wade
TE: Ryan, Cottam, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Ndukwe
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Smith
RG: Goff, Alleman
RT: Ndukwe, O'Callaghan

DE: Jackson, Gilberry
NT: Tyler, Edwards
DE: Dorsey, Magee

OLB: Vrabel, Studebaker
ILB: Williams, Johnson
ILB: Mays, Belcher, Beisel
OLB: Hali, Walters

CB: Flowers, Carr, Leggett, Colclough, Washington
S: Brown, McGraw, Page, Morgan

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
KR: Charles, Lawrence
PR: Engram, Leggett

The Franchise 09-15-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076037)
20?

I'd say about 49 guys.

The only guys in my opinion that are complete locks for 2010 are Dwayne Bowe, Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson and Brendon Flowers.

Who is this...Brendon Flowers guy?

Is he related to Brandon Flowers? :D

The Bad Guy 09-15-2009 03:28 PM

Demorrio Williams just can not start anymore. I know DJ is a loaf, but Williams is awful.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6076065)
QB: Cassel, Croyle, Thigpen, Gutierrez
RB: Johnson, Charles, Battle, Savage
FB: Cox

WR: Bowe, Bradley, Engram, Copper, Lawrence, Wade
TE: Ryan, Cottam, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Ndukwe
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Smith
RG: Goff, Alleman
RT: Ndukwe, O'Callaghan

DE: Jackson, Gilberry
NT: Tyler, Edwards
DE: Dorsey, McGee

OLB: Vrabel, Studebaker
ILB: Williams, Johnson
ILB: Mays, Belcher, Beisel
OLB: Hali, Walters

CB: Flowers, Carr, Leggett, Colclough, Washington
S: Brown, McGraw, Page, Morgan

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
KR: Charles, Lawrence
PR: Engram, Leggett

Wade will most certainly be a kick returner and punt returner.

And I'd be surprised if he doesn't start in the slot on Sunday.

CoMoChief 09-15-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 6075889)

God I miss them......I really wish they would get back together. I miss their music.

CoMoChief 09-15-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6076065)
QB: Cassel, Croyle, Thigpen, Gutierrez
RB: Johnson, Charles, Battle, Savage
FB: Cox

WR: Bowe, Bradley, Engram, Copper, Lawrence, Wade
TE: Ryan, Cottam, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Ndukwe
LG: Waters, Smith
C: Niswanger, Smith
RG: Goff, Alleman
RT: Ndukwe, O'Callaghan

DE: Jackson, Gilberry
NT: Tyler, Edwards
DE: Dorsey, Magee

OLB: Vrabel, Studebaker
ILB: Williams, Johnson
ILB: Mays, Belcher, Beisel
OLB: Hali, Walters

CB: Flowers, Carr, Leggett, Colclough, Washington
S: Brown, McGraw, Page, Morgan

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
KR: Charles, Lawrence
PR: Engram, Leggett

Least talented roster in football folks.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6076072)
Who is this...Brendon Flowers guy?

Is he related to Brandon Flowers? :D

Oooppps

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6076087)
Least talented roster in football folks.

Uh, no. We have amazing punter and an up and coming kicker. Doesn't that count for something?

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6076101)
Uh, no. We have amazing punter and an up and coming kicker. Doesn't that count for something?

Not really

ToxSocks 09-15-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076106)
Not really

Its a joke.

Stinger 09-15-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6076101)
Uh, no. We have amazing punter and an up and coming kicker. Doesn't that count for something?

Only if Herm was still here

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6076111)
Its a joke.

Yes it is

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-15-2009 03:43 PM

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Marcellus 09-15-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 6076087)
Least talented roster in football folks.

While I am sure we are a shoe in for bottom 3, you really have to wonder about Cinci and Detroit. Cinci can't get out of their own way period and Detroit is well, Detroit. Say what you want about names on a roster, bla,bla,bla, the proof is in the performance.



Oh yea, how many points did Gunther's defense give up Sunday?LMAO

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6076143)
Oh yea, how many points did Gunther's defense give up Sunday?LMAO

At least it was against one of the best offenses in the league.

jaa1025 09-15-2009 03:51 PM

The next logical cut/trade is Thigpen/Croyle/Gutierrez. They don't need to keep 4 QB's on the roster with when they all have trade value. Thigpen is definitely the odd man out but I doubt he holds the highest trade value.

Unfortunately, the Raiders and Bronco's seem to be the QB hungriest teams out there. The Raiders might be dumb enough to give a 1st rounder for Croyle and the Bronco's I could see going hard after Gutierrez.

keg in kc 09-15-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6076153)
At least it was against one of the best offenses in the league.

The Ravens may end up being one of the best offenses in the league, as well. It's hard to say.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6076160)
The Ravens may end up being one of the best offenses in the league, as well. It's hard to say.

I kinda doubt it but we'll see.

Their receivers don't scare anyone and Ray Rice is small.


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