We are ***OFFICIALLY*** the worst team in the NFL.
 

The Lions won today. The Raiders beat us in our home opener and couldn't have looked worse today. Who's left?..Bueller....Buelller...Thats right it's us.

Thats the reality. How'd we get from being one of the top teams in 2003 to the worse in 6 years? IMHO,

Talent.

It's obvious to anyone that our problem is talent. We are deficient in talent at just about every position.

Drafting Decisions:
King Carl after Marty left and then Dick Vermiel had horrible drafts that we are paying for now. I had so many King Carl must go threads and rants on here, people were pissed off by the number. King Carl was fired so at least we are moving on.

I'll withhold judgement on Pioli until we see if Cassell and Jackson pan out. Cassell is running for his life. He showed some passion at home last week. That was one beautiful throw to the corner of the end zone. Lots of potential upside. Many a defensive lineman has been just okay in their first few years in the league and then became studs. It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.

Free Agency decisions.:
Again, King Carl whiffed on so many, it would be impossible to detail all those poor decision here. But, I think we are all in agreement that he sucked the big one in this catagory also.

I don't remember any FA that we let go to another team that could have helped us this off season. Any pickups that could have turned around the team this year. Woudn't have mattered this year. Again, Pioli gets a pass this year from me for FA decisions, but not next year.

I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.

Cleveland and Tampa Bay are challenging us for it.

wellll thats something. :thumb:

You obviously put a lot of effort into this thread so I'll shut up.


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and we get the browns at home later in the year, so see there is hope

By then the team will either have come together or Todd Haley will have completely lost them and everyone will be playing like that 2nd half yesterday for the whole game.

St. Louis hasn't won yet either.

Well guys like Haley better get it turned around fast because this team is so bad, he's not going to have 3 years to wait for D-linemen to finally come around... If they do.

I'm still baffled by how bad this O-line is and how so many on here were calling for drafting some O-linemen but apparently Pioli decided to go in a different direction.

Next year we'll be saying again "We need to draft at least 2 O-linemen relatively high in the draft"... But will Pioli do it? Don't know.

But, sadly, they haven't look as inept as us.

Really only the Browns have looked as inept as us.

Ironically they are also led by another former Patriot assistant..

I know the argument/point that I make above that it takes a few years to see if a top level DL pick pans out or not was used to justify Sims play. And just about every other 1st/2nd round pick we wasted during the King Carl era.

But, I do agree with your point. Haley doesn't have 3 years to get this turned around so he'd better hope Jackson "gets it" by next year.

I think the Rams and Browns are worse than us. But we're definitely up there.

Or down there.

Whatever.

Have you watched us play? We are the worst in all phases of the game.

I know its sad......I still think untill we start drafting the players we need instead of the players who are supposed to be the best available,we are doomed!!!!:banghead:

I expect to be better than a few of those teams by the end of the year, especially the Raiders as I think we have more upside.

I honestly would love to hear why, this might be the least talented team I have ever seen, there are no playmakers anywhere.

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Actually in the first two games we were only one or two plays and 5 penalties away from a win. Game three was a different story, but stopping the penalties will go a long way towards getting us a win.

I agree. I don't think we will be the worst team in football at the end of the year. You give Cassell some time to throw and some better recievers, he will be able to deliver the ball.

Well, I think the Raiders have such a terrible QB that I have a hard time seeing us losing to them twice.

This is what happens when you are one of the worst teams in the NFL the previous year, and get worse over the off season. So, I don't understand why anyone is surprised. If anyone opened their eyes, they could see this coming all offseason.

On the bright side we don't have Eric Man-Genius as our head coach!!!

I think the Browns are worse than we are at this point. Barely....

What I don't get is how we were better last year w/ Herm coaching_ Thigpen at QB, and only playing very young players in an effort to develop them early.

Now we have Cassel, a bunch of older veterans, and Arrowhead on lockdown, but we got worse.

Last year we had close losses against decent teams. Now we're just getting blown the **** out.

The Raiders have been drafting too high for too long not to be better than they are. So I'll say the Raiders should have better talent and so are worse. :)

Sorry dude. I got nothin.

I would say we are the 3rd worst team.

Cleveland and Tampa are defniitely worse.

Fine with me. Bring on Berry.

For them or us?:eek:

They might be.

But "definitely" is going too far. If we're better, it's by a ****ing fraction.

:LOL:

I don't know Man-Genius has made the Browns a joke.He talks about not switching QB's after keeping his starter a secret till 3 seconds before the season starts..... Then he yanks Quin our for Anderson who blows it.That guy is a fuggn joke a patamus!!!!

We're better than Cleveland.

I haven't watched a Clevland game this year but have so so pretty good highlights. But as I said by the end of the year I think we will not be the worst team in the NFL.

did you not watch the Falcons, TItans, or panther game last year, all 3 of those were worse than what we saw yesterday easily.

You all do realize that Tampa did not have a 1st Down, yes a first down, until 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

And we get that same Giants defense this Sunday.

It will be their third round game, so we should benefit from this. But let's see how effective our offense looks.

I mock people for rooting for the Cubs, yet I root for the Cubs of football. And that isn't even a fair comparison, since the Cubs are actually competitive.

I was going to drive down for the Buffalo game, but after yesterday's abortion I told my buddy not to bother getting tickets. I wouldn't walk across the street to watch these loser mother****ers right now.

Seriously, I've about had enough. I don't remember the ****ing championship they won when I was FOUR, and frankly it means nothing to me.

$350+ to watch these turds on Sunday Ticket and I usually can't make it through the second quarter.

:cuss:

Yeah, right now it is hard to be good when every big play comes back for holding and we have dropped 5 INT's in the last 2 weeks.

momentum killers.:shake:

we might not fare any better.

We're better than the Browns but I'm pretty sure we're tied with the Rams right now for second worst in the league.

I think Tampa Bay is worse than the Chiefs are. And St. Louis is no great shakes either, although they did win the Governor's cup game.

Damn...forgot Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay, St. Louis and KC are all tied for second worst in the league.

My question is why couldn't they have done more to address that serious lack of talent? We have plenty of cap space. To the point that we were forced to spend money because we didn't hit the minimum. Why wasn't there more effort to address the serious lack of talent when we had the resources to do so? We all knew we had a lack of talent. And they can't fix it in one offseason. But it still doesn't look like they did nearly as much as they could have...

Mizzou has probably already won more games than Kansas City or St. Louis will this year. Combined. :shake:

you shittin' me? They are ****ing horrible.

I think we're better than Cleveland, Tampa and St.Louis.

We've played 3 really good defenses, I think our offense will look better as the season goes on and as we play worse defenses. Defensively, I dont know what to think. We've played a good offense in Baltimore and a really good offense in Philly but they were w/out 2 of their best players, and we looked like shit against both. We shut down Oakland, but alot of teams will do that.

4th worse team IMO.

Yeah, right now it's looking like we'll have to focus on turnovers to keep us in games. It almost worked against the Ravens. I figure we'll need to average +3 to get the handicap about right.

...the OTHER Missouri team is worst.

The Bucs are the worst team. But it's okay I want them to place last so they get first dibs on talent.

Wow!! The Bucs just benched Left-Quitch for Josh Johnson after Raheem Morris came out and said yeah uh Byron is our guy.... Priceless!!!

This guy is almost as big a jack ass as Mc Dildo!!!!

And for some reason I've never felt prouder to be a Chiefs Fan in over a decade.

FIRST THREE GAMES LAST YEAR:

Lost to NE
BLOWN OUT by the Raiders
BLOWN OUT by Atlanta

Our schedule this year is brutal, Baltimore may be the best team in the league. The only "blowout" was yesterday.

With our schedule this year we could make big improvements and STILL win only 3 games.

This place is so depressing I decided to spend the morning on the Jayhawk board. So I go over there and guess what they are talking about? Yep. How shitty the Chiefs are.

Yes because I am sure free agents were fighting each other to come here.
No one here knows who was offered what.This may be a shocker to people here but KC was prob a tough sell to free agents when kc was good.
People don't realize its more than just money that decides where they want to play. It is also where they have to live. KC buffalo and green bay are at a disadvantage compared to miami.sd,NY. But that is something no one dares take into consideration.

With our schedule I don't see anybody taking away the first pick in the draft from us.

wow...we MAY be better than cleveland or st. louis.

If youll excuse me, im going to go lay in front of a bus.

The Chiefs won on Sept 28th 2008... and once in November... after today, the Chiefs will have won ONE game in a YEAR... including preseason.

That's pretty wild... I will say this though, the devotion of the fan base during all of this is very admirable. I went to Wizards (Dallas) yesterday to catch the Denver game and there had to be at least 30 KC fans all decked out watching that game, there were people in the parking lot with a 'mini/pseudo' tailgate scene going on.

Well let's not settle for average. November is just around the corner.... I think we can do it!

Hey, this thread isn't blaming any coach of GM besides those that are no longer here. That means there is hope. Just right now, we suck. no way around that. not enough lipstick to cover this pig.

I have been all over the Chiefs for not using all their cap room some years but in this case who should they have spent it on? T.O.? give me a break. Who else was out there we could have got in FA since Pioli came on board?

Seriously?

There were plenty of guys that would have been immediate upgrades and they've been listed throughout these type of threads time and time again.

Wind, meet piss.

No one wants to believe that Pioli could have done anything. Peterson and Herm aren't here, and that's enough.

You are correct but that does not mean they WANTED to come here.

okay, name them?

Read through one of the latest Whitlock threads. The possibilities were named at least 4-5 times.

Well, money talks and bullshit walks.

Vrabel didn't want to be in KC but guess what? It's highly unlikely that any team in the league would pay him $3.5 million dollars this year.

Plenty of successful players from successful teams move each and every year, from good teams to bad teams.

It's all about the green.

You really don't believe we could have brought in anybody better? With our cap space?

Exactly. The Chiefs are overloaded with the most important incentive available for luring in FAs.... $

Okay, for the LAST ****ing time:

Derrick Ward
Heath Evans
Lavernues Coles
T.J. Houshmanzadeh
Vernon Carey
Jason Brown
Orlando Pace
Ray Willis
Tra Thomas
Floyd Womack
Greg Ellis
Chris Canty
Michael Boley

Any of these guys would have been upgrades and would have allowed the Chiefs to go a different direction in the draft.

I'd take Canty over Tyson Jackson everyday of the week. A few of these guys like Thomas and Pace would have been one year stop gaps but they'd be better than SackIntosh or Ndudwe.

Bowe, Housh and Bradley/Wade would have been a nice WR corp and Ward would have been an improvement over Battle. Heath Evans versus Mike Cox is a no brainer.

Lot's of players move from bad teams to good team to. Sometimes it's not about the green, it's about the rings. Ask Tony Gonzales.

That's a given and most certainly does not apply in this situation.

Cap room doesn't have anything to do with it.

Players want guaranteed money, which means signing bonuses.

You'd think Chiefs fans would understand this by now - it doesn't matter how much cap space we have, it matters if Mr. Hunt wants to open the checkbook and spend.

Like Mecca has said repeatedly, they gave Cassel and Jackson their money and they were done.

It most certainly does apply.

There are guys on your list that wouldn't have even considered the Chiefs because one of their criteria is a need to compete for a ring.

That being said, the GLARING example is Jason Brown. He signed in St. Louis, who is as bad as we are. There's no excuse for not pursuing him.

Yup everyone should know this team was going to suck go cheer for another team bandwagoners.

I don't buy that.

Housh went to Seattle, a 4-12 team.

Willis re-signed with Seattle, a 4-12 team.

Tra Thomas went to Jax, a 5-11 team.

Coles went to Cincy, a 4-11-1 team.

ALL would have upgraded the Chiefs.

Do I need to continue?

Housh wasn't coming here. no way. Seattle was considered a contender. Not an also ran this year.

coles in Cincy? How are they doing this year? a little better than the Chiefs.

Canty is washed up and the corners we have are going to be fine.

Tra is a washed up Ol.

I'll give you Jason Brown, we dropped the ball on that one. But the rest are not really that big of improvments, have off the field or locker room issues or wanted a chance for a ring and wern't interested in the Chiefs. IMHO.

To be fair, Seattle wasnt your typical 4-12 team. Hasselback got hurt and they sunk, also Housh sort of went back home to the Northwest.